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	<title>Comments on: Why Leftists Hate Thanksgiving</title>
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		<title>By: Quincy</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2005/11/24/why-leftists-hate-thanksgiving/#comment-98</link>
		<dc:creator>Quincy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2005 07:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually, Paul, the role of the state in creating a stable economy is to provide a simple, stable set of laws and principles upon which people can rely in their lives.  Socialism, in seeking to favor some over others and with its constant meddling in the economy, does just the opposite.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Paul, the role of the state in creating a stable economy is to provide a simple, stable set of laws and principles upon which people can rely in their lives.  Socialism, in seeking to favor some over others and with its constant meddling in the economy, does just the opposite.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2005/11/24/why-leftists-hate-thanksgiving/#comment-97</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2005 02:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Who says, Paul, that we don&#039;t want the state to have a role? We are not Libertarians dreaming of theoretical anarcho-capitalism. We do understand that developed societies and developed economies call for a state of some sort. But, we can point to cases where economies have developed quite successfully without socialist state activity. Unfortunately for the collectivist crowd, dreaming of egalitarian socialist societies, there has yet to be a successful system based on such ideas. In fact, the further you move towards such ideals, the worse things become for the &quot;common man&quot; that your system is supposed to be helping. Naturally, socialists never address those issues.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who says, Paul, that we don&#8217;t want the state to have a role? We are not Libertarians dreaming of theoretical anarcho-capitalism. We do understand that developed societies and developed economies call for a state of some sort. But, we can point to cases where economies have developed quite successfully without socialist state activity. Unfortunately for the collectivist crowd, dreaming of egalitarian socialist societies, there has yet to be a successful system based on such ideas. In fact, the further you move towards such ideals, the worse things become for the &#8220;common man&#8221; that your system is supposed to be helping. Naturally, socialists never address those issues.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2005/11/24/why-leftists-hate-thanksgiving/#comment-95</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2005 22:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, and you keep forgetting that a developed society has never existed, nor an economy ever developed, without an active role for the state.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, and you keep forgetting that a developed society has never existed, nor an economy ever developed, without an active role for the state.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2005/11/24/why-leftists-hate-thanksgiving/#comment-84</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2005 07:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As did the nearly complete failure of the original collectivist colonies at Plymouth and Jamestown. In fact, you can&#039;t point out a successful collective that didn&#039;t have external support propping it up. And we keep learning, and forgetting, that lesson.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As did the nearly complete failure of the original collectivist colonies at Plymouth and Jamestown. In fact, you can&#8217;t point out a successful collective that didn&#8217;t have external support propping it up. And we keep learning, and forgetting, that lesson.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2005/11/24/why-leftists-hate-thanksgiving/#comment-79</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2005 04:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually Chris, even know I know you&#039;re being a smartass and I never called &quot;the injuns&quot; Marxists, you actually have a point. The Indians, mostly practiced collective ownership of property, an idea eventually pioneered by Marx in his various ramblings. So the Indians actually predated Marxism.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually Chris, even know I know you&#8217;re being a smartass and I never called &#8220;the injuns&#8221; Marxists, you actually have a point. The Indians, mostly practiced collective ownership of property, an idea eventually pioneered by Marx in his various ramblings. So the Indians actually predated Marxism.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris mankey</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2005/11/24/why-leftists-hate-thanksgiving/#comment-76</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris mankey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2005 18:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was unaware that native americans were marxists! Thanks for the heads up on those evil lefty injuns!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was unaware that native americans were marxists! Thanks for the heads up on those evil lefty injuns!</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2005/11/24/why-leftists-hate-thanksgiving/#comment-55</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Nov 2005 07:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Paul, please name a country that hasn&#039;t come about through invasion, violence, etc. For that matter, if you knew your history, you would know that the original English settlers of the colonies in New England bartered for, and purchased, the land they settled on. The oft told tale of purchasing Manhattan is a myth, with the lie of the myth being the price paid. Yes, Manhattan Island was purchased, but not for the paltry amount told in the myth. And, if you go back to the original English and colonial records, you discover that. 

Yes, there were wars fought between the various Indian tribes and colonies, but they were part of the larger French, English and Dutch conflicts of the 17th and 18th centuries. The actual &quot;wars of conquest&quot; against the Indian nations didn&#039;t begin until, roughly, the 1830&#039;s. Of course, you would need to go to the actual history to find that out, not what is currently taught in our government schools.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul, please name a country that hasn&#8217;t come about through invasion, violence, etc. For that matter, if you knew your history, you would know that the original English settlers of the colonies in New England bartered for, and purchased, the land they settled on. The oft told tale of purchasing Manhattan is a myth, with the lie of the myth being the price paid. Yes, Manhattan Island was purchased, but not for the paltry amount told in the myth. And, if you go back to the original English and colonial records, you discover that. </p>
<p>Yes, there were wars fought between the various Indian tribes and colonies, but they were part of the larger French, English and Dutch conflicts of the 17th and 18th centuries. The actual &#8220;wars of conquest&#8221; against the Indian nations didn&#8217;t begin until, roughly, the 1830&#8242;s. Of course, you would need to go to the actual history to find that out, not what is currently taught in our government schools.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2005/11/24/why-leftists-hate-thanksgiving/#comment-54</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Nov 2005 06:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The real story of Thanksgiving is the triumph of capitalism...&quot;

Wow... Regardless of whether it was &#039;native American collectivism&#039; that held them back technologically, and regardless of whether the killing of native Americans by whites is best terms a genocide, it really does makes me feel ill to hear this event termed a &quot;triumph&quot;.

The idea these much-hated &#039;lefties&#039; resent Thanksgiving because it represents the defeat of their much-loved socialism is completely untrue. Rather, they simply question the merit of celebrating a day that represents the founding of a country through invasion and the violent subjugation of a native population.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The real story of Thanksgiving is the triumph of capitalism&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Wow&#8230; Regardless of whether it was &#8216;native American collectivism&#8217; that held them back technologically, and regardless of whether the killing of native Americans by whites is best terms a genocide, it really does makes me feel ill to hear this event termed a &#8220;triumph&#8221;.</p>
<p>The idea these much-hated &#8216;lefties&#8217; resent Thanksgiving because it represents the defeat of their much-loved socialism is completely untrue. Rather, they simply question the merit of celebrating a day that represents the founding of a country through invasion and the violent subjugation of a native population.</p>
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		<title>By: Wulf</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2005/11/24/why-leftists-hate-thanksgiving/#comment-50</link>
		<dc:creator>Wulf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2005 23:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;What these men forget is that native Americans and white settlers fought a series of wars...&lt;/i&gt;

These men go on about this genocide, but they also seem to forget that there were plenty of tribes on these two continents who met a violent end - a genocide if you like - at the hands of their rival tribes.  Warfare was not introduced to the Americas by white men.  It is a completely false myth to believe that the aboriginals were any less or more than tribes of men, who acted like men, for all the good and bad that means.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>What these men forget is that native Americans and white settlers fought a series of wars&#8230;</i></p>
<p>These men go on about this genocide, but they also seem to forget that there were plenty of tribes on these two continents who met a violent end &#8211; a genocide if you like &#8211; at the hands of their rival tribes.  Warfare was not introduced to the Americas by white men.  It is a completely false myth to believe that the aboriginals were any less or more than tribes of men, who acted like men, for all the good and bad that means.</p>
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		<title>By: Forward Biased</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2005/11/24/why-leftists-hate-thanksgiving/#comment-49</link>
		<dc:creator>Forward Biased</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2005 20:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;Attention, all...&lt;/strong&gt;

Actually, there are three things I do need ot call your attention to today. Therefore, in reverse order of the amount of attention I think they&#039;ve gotten: 1) The Liberty Papers is a brand-new group blog being run by several]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Attention, all&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Actually, there are three things I do need ot call your attention to today. Therefore, in reverse order of the amount of attention I think they&#8217;ve gotten: 1) The Liberty Papers is a brand-new group blog being run by several</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2005/11/24/why-leftists-hate-thanksgiving/#comment-48</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2005 20:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great post, and true thoughts. Including the worries about where the country is going.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, and true thoughts. Including the worries about where the country is going.</p>
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