Comments on: Why Does The Second Amendment Exist?

By: spurwing plover

spurwing plover — Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:03:16 +0000

Some idiots cant read the constitution at all that that includes quite a few in our fderal goverment as well as the supreum court and quite a few politicians the 2nd amendment gives us the right to KEEP AND BARE ARMS AND TO DEFEND OURSELVES FROM ALL ENEMIES

By: jed

jed — Tue, 13 Dec 2005 04:58:02 +0000

Well, fancy meeting you here, Ironbear. ;-)

You’ve been mighty quiet lately.

By: Ironbear

Ironbear — Sun, 11 Dec 2005 23:50:55 +0000

That’s a hazard of rhetorical flourishes, Eric. ;]

Howdy Jed – long time.

By: Eric

Eric — Sun, 11 Dec 2005 19:46:41 +0000

Heh, I was trying to make a rhetorical flourish to prove a point and got called on it.

By: FreedomSight

FreedomSight — Sun, 11 Dec 2005 19:33:01 +0000

[...] Figured I’d just be lazy and link to my reply to Reply to Eric on the 2nd Amendment over at Liberty Papers. [...]

By: jed

jed — Sun, 11 Dec 2005 19:30:43 +0000

Congress and/or state legislatures would not be doing anything unconstitutional if they were to regulate, or even prohibit, these activities.

Have to disagree, Eric. Where, in the enumerated powers, does the U.S. Constitution give the Congress such authority? Only if you buy into the modern, expansive view of the commerce clause (maybe) or view the “necessary and proper” clause as a blank check, does Congress have the power to ban stockpiling goods, including firearms and ammunition, or hunting. Sure, I can imagine the tortured reasoning of Kelo or Wickard being used to argue that hunting decreases the market for purchased meat products, and the interstate purchase of ammunition, clothing, tents, etc. is involved too, and therefore is regulable under the Commerce Clause, but I don’t expect that you really believe that.

So while it’s true that the 2nd Amendment doesn’t actually address hunting, one can’t conclude from that the Congress is not so restricted. As to your other case, well, if the times comes when we exercise our final defense against tyranny, those hidden caches, of the “Idaho” variety, will be invaluable. As Matthew Bracken’s character Phil Carson quoted in “Enemies Foreign and Domestic”, when it feels as if it’s time to start burying your firearms, that’s when it’s time to dig them up.

By: TF Stern

TF Stern — Sat, 10 Dec 2005 16:15:30 +0000

Found it, took a while.

http://tfsternsrantings.blogspot.com/2005/03/little-wild-is-good.html

By: TF Stern

TF Stern — Sat, 10 Dec 2005 15:11:19 +0000

I’m going to have to get better organized; having written on this in the past and yet I cannot find the article. Those who are supposedly having difficulty in understanding the intent or wording as it is written need only read the extentions, those being the essays written by those who wrote the amendment. It is clear from those essays and letters to each other that weapons in the hands of the citizens were to protect them from their own government. I’ll have some fun one day and start a better file system.