Comments on: Democracy and Islam Go Together? http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2006/02/11/democracy-and-islam-go-together/ Life. Liberty. Property. Defending individual freedom and liberty, one post at a time. Wed, 08 Feb 2012 17:04:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Eric http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2006/02/11/democracy-and-islam-go-together/#comment-432 Eric Sun, 12 Feb 2006 01:21:55 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2006/02/11/democracy-and-islam-go-together/#comment-432 If you will notice, there is a common theme in what I'm writing. It is that there are a group of people who are using violence and religious extremism to keep their hold on power, or to gain power, depending on their position. That doesn't change the fact that the people you are referring to are not standing up and saying "that's part of free speech and western political tradition and it should be tolerated". Rather, they are saying that violence is not the appropriate reaction. Their stand for tolerance is notably missing. Why is that? Critical thinking is definitely required, in more ways than one. If you will notice, there is a common theme in what I’m writing. It is that there are a group of people who are using violence and religious extremism to keep their hold on power, or to gain power, depending on their position.

That doesn’t change the fact that the people you are referring to are not standing up and saying “that’s part of free speech and western political tradition and it should be tolerated”. Rather, they are saying that violence is not the appropriate reaction. Their stand for tolerance is notably missing. Why is that? Critical thinking is definitely required, in more ways than one.

]]> By: Left Behinds http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2006/02/11/democracy-and-islam-go-together/#comment-431 Left Behinds Sun, 12 Feb 2006 00:25:02 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2006/02/11/democracy-and-islam-go-together/#comment-431 Hm, you say that "The so-called moderates want the same things, they just refrain from violence. They don’t condemn the violence, making them enablers of violence and extremism." On the contrary, legions of mainstream, moderate Muslims have condemned the violence as extremely anti-Islamic. Read about it <a href="http://leftbehinds.blogspot.com/2006/02/evolving-coverage-of-danish-cartoon.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>. What you were saying kind of sounds like undigested propaganda. When it comes to Islam, very few MSM journalists know what the hell they're talking about, so it's especially important to be a critical thinker when it comes to this topic. Hm, you say that “The so-called moderates want the same things, they just refrain from violence. They don’t condemn the violence, making them enablers of violence and extremism.”

On the contrary, legions of mainstream, moderate Muslims have condemned the violence as extremely anti-Islamic. Read about it here. What you were saying kind of sounds like undigested propaganda.

When it comes to Islam, very few MSM journalists know what the hell they’re talking about, so it’s especially important to be a critical thinker when it comes to this topic.

]]> By: John Newman http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2006/02/11/democracy-and-islam-go-together/#comment-429 John Newman Sat, 11 Feb 2006 23:32:46 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2006/02/11/democracy-and-islam-go-together/#comment-429 In relationship to Muslims and alcohol and Mormons and caffeine your usage statistics are about as useful and relevant as...oops, I better stop you may confuse a statement with an ad hominem attack - again. In relationship to Muslims and alcohol and Mormons and caffeine your usage statistics are about as useful and relevant as…oops, I better stop you may confuse a statement with an ad hominem attack – again.

]]> By: Eric http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2006/02/11/democracy-and-islam-go-together/#comment-428 Eric Sat, 11 Feb 2006 23:18:56 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2006/02/11/democracy-and-islam-go-together/#comment-428 Humans three favorite (at least by usage statistics) recreational drugs are alcohol, caffeine and nicotine. Mormons are banned from two of the three, Muslims only one of the three. Humans three favorite (at least by usage statistics) recreational drugs are alcohol, caffeine and nicotine. Mormons are banned from two of the three, Muslims only one of the three.

]]> By: John Newman http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2006/02/11/democracy-and-islam-go-together/#comment-427 John Newman Sat, 11 Feb 2006 23:17:05 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2006/02/11/democracy-and-islam-go-together/#comment-427 Why would the Mormons have it worse than the Muslims if they can't have caffeine? Why would the Mormons have it worse than the Muslims if they can’t have caffeine?

]]> By: Eric http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2006/02/11/democracy-and-islam-go-together/#comment-426 Eric Sat, 11 Feb 2006 23:15:33 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2006/02/11/democracy-and-islam-go-together/#comment-426 On the topic of second hand smoke (an object) and assault (an action), read what I wrote again. On the topic of second hand smoke (an object) and assault (an action), read what I wrote again.

]]> By: Eric http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2006/02/11/democracy-and-islam-go-together/#comment-425 Eric Sat, 11 Feb 2006 23:11:07 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2006/02/11/democracy-and-islam-go-together/#comment-425 exactly as I said it. There's no comparison of one to the other at all. exactly as I said it. There’s no comparison of one to the other at all.

]]> By: John Newman http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2006/02/11/democracy-and-islam-go-together/#comment-423 John Newman Sat, 11 Feb 2006 23:00:11 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2006/02/11/democracy-and-islam-go-together/#comment-423 How exactly did you mean it then? How exactly did you mean it then?

]]> By: Eric http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2006/02/11/democracy-and-islam-go-together/#comment-422 Eric Sat, 11 Feb 2006 22:56:23 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2006/02/11/democracy-and-islam-go-together/#comment-422 No, I didn't compare one to the other. And is not a comparative statement. No, I didn’t compare one to the other. And is not a comparative statement.

]]> By: John Newman http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2006/02/11/democracy-and-islam-go-together/#comment-421 John Newman Sat, 11 Feb 2006 22:52:43 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2006/02/11/democracy-and-islam-go-together/#comment-421 You did it again! Comparing caffeine to alcohol is like comparing second hand smoke to assault. You did it again! Comparing caffeine to alcohol is like comparing second hand smoke to assault.

]]> By: Eric http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2006/02/11/democracy-and-islam-go-together/#comment-420 Eric Sat, 11 Feb 2006 22:24:56 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2006/02/11/democracy-and-islam-go-together/#comment-420 And David, that is the key difference. Are the editor's of the Washington Post or NYT hiding in fear of their life after publishing "piss Christ", which even a secular humanist like me can see is 10 times more offensive than the cartoons the Jyllands-Posten published. And David, that is the key difference. Are the editor’s of the Washington Post or NYT hiding in fear of their life after publishing “piss Christ”, which even a secular humanist like me can see is 10 times more offensive than the cartoons the Jyllands-Posten published.

]]> By: Eric http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2006/02/11/democracy-and-islam-go-together/#comment-419 Eric Sat, 11 Feb 2006 22:22:22 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2006/02/11/democracy-and-islam-go-together/#comment-419 Mormons have it even worse, then. No alcohol and no caffeine. Mormons have it even worse, then. No alcohol and no caffeine.

]]> By: John Newman http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2006/02/11/democracy-and-islam-go-together/#comment-417 John Newman Sat, 11 Feb 2006 22:02:26 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2006/02/11/democracy-and-islam-go-together/#comment-417 The root of the entire Muslim problem is very simple: The Koran forbids alcohol. Think about it! The root of the entire Muslim problem is very simple: The Koran forbids alcohol. Think about it!

]]> By: David Allen http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2006/02/11/democracy-and-islam-go-together/#comment-416 David Allen Sat, 11 Feb 2006 21:58:25 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2006/02/11/democracy-and-islam-go-together/#comment-416 Flemming Rose born 3/14/1956 into a Jewish family in the Ukraine has a major in Russian language and literature from University of Copenhagen. From 1990 to 1996 he was the Moscow correspondent for the newspaper Berlingske Tidende. Between 1996 and 1999 he was the correspondent for the same newspaper in Washington, D.C.. In 1999 he became Moscow correspondent for the newspaper Jyllands-Posten and January 2005 the cultural editor of that paper (KulturWeekend). He fled Denmark where he was under police protection to Miami, Florida in fear for his life where he is currently in hiding. Flemming Rose born 3/14/1956 into a Jewish family in the Ukraine has a major in Russian language and literature from University of Copenhagen. From 1990 to 1996 he was the Moscow correspondent for the newspaper Berlingske Tidende. Between 1996 and 1999 he was the correspondent for the same newspaper in Washington, D.C.. In 1999 he became Moscow correspondent for the newspaper Jyllands-Posten and January 2005 the cultural editor of that paper (KulturWeekend). He fled Denmark where he was under police protection to Miami, Florida in fear for his life where he is currently in hiding.

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