Comments on: Another Dead Citizen http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2006/12/03/another-dead-citizen/ Life. Liberty. Property. Defending individual freedom and liberty, one post at a time. Wed, 17 Mar 2010 20:33:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: The Liberty Papers»Blog Archive » Did Kathryn Johnston Follow the Four Basic Rules? http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2006/12/03/another-dead-citizen/#comment-3948 The Liberty Papers»Blog Archive » Did Kathryn Johnston Follow the Four Basic Rules? Wed, 06 Dec 2006 15:58:13 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2006/12/03/another-dead-citizen/#comment-3948 [...] Would she have lived if she hadn’t started shooting? Perhaps yes, perhaps no. Unarmed 18-year-old Peyton Strickland didn’t shoot at the cops, and he’s dead (along with his dog). Sean Bell wasn’t armed the night before his wedding, when he was gunned down by police. [...] [...] Would she have lived if she hadn’t started shooting? Perhaps yes, perhaps no. Unarmed 18-year-old Peyton Strickland didn’t shoot at the cops, and he’s dead (along with his dog). Sean Bell wasn’t armed the night before his wedding, when he was gunned down by police. [...]

]]> By: The Liberty Papers»Blog Archive » “Too Bad” http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2006/12/03/another-dead-citizen/#comment-3911 The Liberty Papers»Blog Archive » “Too Bad” Tue, 05 Dec 2006 04:38:12 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2006/12/03/another-dead-citizen/#comment-3911 [...] Orrin Robbins: Why send a SWAT team for an OFA? Why not make a simple phone call asking the young man to come to the... [...] [...] Orrin Robbins: Why send a SWAT team for an OFA? Why not make a simple phone call asking the young man to come to the… [...]

]]> By: Orrin Robbins http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2006/12/03/another-dead-citizen/#comment-3897 Orrin Robbins Mon, 04 Dec 2006 21:24:16 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2006/12/03/another-dead-citizen/#comment-3897 Why send a SWAT team for an OFA? Why not make a simple phone call asking the young man to come to the police station? There was no information that violence was currently afoot or that the suspect or anyone else was brandishing a weapon. In fact when another college student took out a warrant against Peyton for an alleged assault arising out of an altercation at a party, that's exactly what police did. They called Peyton and asked him to come in. After a quick call to his Dad, Peyton drove straight to the magistrate and turned himself in and so that the justice system could then work its course. Given this history, what reason was there to think he wouldn't have done the same in this matter? A simple phone call could have spared a young man's life, saved a fine family from a terrible tragedy that will have no end, and even saved the taxpayers the cost of the gasoline used to transport the Army of New Hanover to the scene of their assault. Another thing to keep in mind is that it was the equivalent of a coin toss that it was Peyton who was shot five times through the door. Had his roommate, who was not implicated any any criminal wrong doing, been the one nearer the door, then he would have been the one to be riddled by the police barrage. The same would be true of any guest at the residence. Thus any idiot, who suggests that Peyton somehow deserved to be shot for his alleged involvent in certain unproven allegations, misses the point that the SWAT team shot the boy that had the bad fortune to come to the door, not any particular individual. The young man who was shot and killed happened happened to be Peyton Strickland. I sincerely hope that the District Attorney is a man of his word and follows the truth where it leads. If that truth ultimately shows certain members of law enforcement to be criminally culpable, then those persons will be accordingly prosecuted and punished to the fullest extent of the law. Why send a SWAT team for an OFA? Why not make a simple phone call asking the young man to come to the police station? There was no information that violence was currently afoot or that the suspect or anyone else was brandishing a weapon.

In fact when another college student took out a warrant against Peyton for an alleged assault arising out of an altercation at a party, that’s exactly what police did. They called Peyton and asked him to come in. After a quick call to his Dad, Peyton drove straight to the magistrate and turned himself in and so that the justice system could then work its course. Given this history, what reason was there to think he wouldn’t have done the same in this matter?

A simple phone call could have spared a young man’s life, saved a fine family from a terrible tragedy that will have no end, and even saved the taxpayers the cost of the gasoline used to transport the Army of New Hanover to the scene of their assault.

Another thing to keep in mind is that it was the equivalent of a coin toss that it was Peyton who was shot five times through the door. Had his roommate, who was not implicated any any criminal wrong doing, been the one nearer the door, then he would have been the one to be riddled by the police barrage. The same would be true of any guest at the residence.

Thus any idiot, who suggests that Peyton somehow deserved to be shot for his alleged involvent in certain unproven allegations, misses the point that the SWAT team shot the boy that had the bad fortune to come to the door, not any particular individual. The young man who was shot and killed happened happened to be Peyton Strickland.

I sincerely hope that the District Attorney is a man of his word and follows the truth where it leads. If that truth ultimately shows certain members of law enforcement to be criminally culpable, then those persons will be accordingly prosecuted and punished to the fullest extent of the law.

]]> By: Armed citizen http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2006/12/03/another-dead-citizen/#comment-3896 Armed citizen Mon, 04 Dec 2006 21:21:43 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2006/12/03/another-dead-citizen/#comment-3896 The cops have declared war on American citizens, its that simple. Civil rights have gone out the window. We do live under fascism, its just not as flagrant as the historical examples we are familiar with. When the State can murder citizens with impunity, thats a fascist regime. People should rembember this murder every time they interact with an armed Agent of the State. It could happen to you. What can citizens do about a fascist regime? Well, recall the circumstances of the birth of this great nation. Our forefathers lived under tyranny. So, they changed the situation. And we, you , me, all of us, need to do the same. We need regime change right here at home. And dont wait for the next elections. That wont change a thing. This is bigger and more dangerous than one or two choices on a ballot. This is a fundamental aberration of government, some dark manifestation of a broken, corrupted system that no longer can do what it was chartered 200+ years ago to do. The cops have declared war on American citizens, its that simple. Civil rights have gone out the window. We do live under fascism, its just not as flagrant as the historical examples we are familiar with. When the State can murder citizens with impunity, thats a fascist regime.

People should rembember this murder every time they interact with an armed Agent of the State. It could happen to you. What can citizens do about a fascist regime? Well, recall the circumstances of the birth of this great nation. Our forefathers lived under tyranny. So, they changed the situation. And we, you , me, all of us, need to do the same. We need regime change right here at home. And dont wait for the next elections. That wont change a thing. This is bigger and more dangerous than one or two choices on a ballot. This is a fundamental aberration of government, some dark manifestation of a broken, corrupted system that no longer can do what it was chartered 200+ years ago to do.

]]> By: Adam Selene http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2006/12/03/another-dead-citizen/#comment-3893 Adam Selene Mon, 04 Dec 2006 16:43:39 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2006/12/03/another-dead-citizen/#comment-3893 Remember the days when people, in general, would have been outraged that the police used deadly force over a $500 theft? It would have been front page news on every national newspaper. Now, it's ho hum, another police shooting. Remember the days when people, in general, would have been outraged that the police used deadly force over a $500 theft? It would have been front page news on every national newspaper. Now, it’s ho hum, another police shooting.

]]> By: Wiford Reed http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2006/12/03/another-dead-citizen/#comment-3892 Wiford Reed Mon, 04 Dec 2006 16:25:33 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2006/12/03/another-dead-citizen/#comment-3892 WTF? All this over a Playstation? AND The DA is going to investigate? What a joke. The DA will no doubt find justification. And I am sure the officer(s) involved are on PAID leave. New Hanover County sheriff's deputy sounds like a trigger happy Barney Fife. Hate to see what happens if you run a red light. WTF? All this over a Playstation? AND The DA is going to investigate? What a joke. The DA will no doubt find justification. And I am sure the officer(s) involved are on PAID leave.
New Hanover County sheriff’s deputy sounds like a trigger happy Barney Fife. Hate to see what happens if you run a red light.

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