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		<title>By: The Liberty Papers&#187;Blog Archive &#187; Why The Republicans Lost Part IV</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2006/12/09/why-republicans-need-libertarians/#comment-4421</link>
		<dc:creator>The Liberty Papers&#187;Blog Archive &#187; Why The Republicans Lost Part IV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 13:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Eric Dondero</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2006/12/09/why-republicans-need-libertarians/#comment-4260</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Dondero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Dec 2006 12:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Response to Rzzn,

Why is it that the only two &quot;libertarian Democrats&quot; Frank Gonzales in Florida and Joel Winter in NH, get all the attention, yet the hundreds of libertarian Republican candidates who ran and won this year get ignored by Libertarian Party advocates like you?  Why the double standard?  

We&#039;re talking HUNDREDS of libertarian Republican candidate in 2006.  And ONLY two &quot;libertarian Democrats.&quot;

You know Joel Winter won a seat in the NH Legislature.  Everybody is beaming about him; &quot;Joel the libertarian Hero.&quot;

You know how many libertarians were elected to the NH Legislature as Republicans this year?  About 40 like Jason Berrick, DJ Bettencourt, Al Baldarasso.  

Are you hearing anything about them?  

The whole &quot;libertarian Democrat&quot; thing is way, way, way overblown.  

And as for Gonzales, the Florida Democrats kept a long arm&#039;s distance away from him.  They wanted nothing to do with his candidacy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Response to Rzzn,</p>
<p>Why is it that the only two &#8220;libertarian Democrats&#8221; Frank Gonzales in Florida and Joel Winter in NH, get all the attention, yet the hundreds of libertarian Republican candidates who ran and won this year get ignored by Libertarian Party advocates like you?  Why the double standard?  </p>
<p>We&#8217;re talking HUNDREDS of libertarian Republican candidate in 2006.  And ONLY two &#8220;libertarian Democrats.&#8221;</p>
<p>You know Joel Winter won a seat in the NH Legislature.  Everybody is beaming about him; &#8220;Joel the libertarian Hero.&#8221;</p>
<p>You know how many libertarians were elected to the NH Legislature as Republicans this year?  About 40 like Jason Berrick, DJ Bettencourt, Al Baldarasso.  </p>
<p>Are you hearing anything about them?  </p>
<p>The whole &#8220;libertarian Democrat&#8221; thing is way, way, way overblown.  </p>
<p>And as for Gonzales, the Florida Democrats kept a long arm&#8217;s distance away from him.  They wanted nothing to do with his candidacy.</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica Byrnes</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2006/12/09/why-republicans-need-libertarians/#comment-4248</link>
		<dc:creator>Jessica Byrnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Dec 2006 22:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sarbanes Oxley and acts like it are purposely designed to tighten control 
over free enterprise which makes enterprise, of course, less free. Sooner or later 
the entrepreneurs who fuel the economic engine get tired of funding 
parasitic government bureaucrats and rapacious &quot;global elite&quot; banking interests. 
They quit working and that is the end of an economy and the civilization.
 The trend of burdening actual producers with &quot;one size fits all&quot; regulations is accelerating not decelerating. 
  
What&#039;s the answer?
 
How many people engaged in business really understand an Income Statement? A Balance Sheet? A Cash Flow Statement? Every one engaged in business should understand 
these financial reports and their personal responsibility to ensure reporting 
accuracy. But the % of individuals engaged in business that truly understand 
financial reporting is probably very small. And so they make mistakes 
or are open to fraud perpetrated by ethics deficient &quot;experts&quot;.
 
The market crashes, the public is shorn and their savings harvested.
 
Some politicians rise up on their hind legs, wring their hands and 
pass legislation to &quot;protect the public&quot;. The law gets applied 
to everyone whether they had an ethics problem or not. Usually, 
the fox in placed in charge of the chicken coop as was the case 
with Joe Kennedy being made the first SEC chairman by Roosevelt 
after Kennedy made a fortune short selling before the created crash 
of 1929.
 
The &quot;global elite&quot; pay their 100 million or so in fines 
negotiated by their global elite attorneys and then carry on 
business as usual working their fines and cost of compliance 
into their numbers. 
 
The true entrepreneur gets squashed further.
 
The only way the &quot;global elite&quot; get away with this racket is 
to make the subject of finance so complex that us ordinary beings 
can&#039;t confront it.
 
The answer is to simplify the subject matter so a critical 
mass of businessmen will truly understand the language 
of finance and its rules, will see how they are getting ripped 
off by parasitic elements and will &quot;throw the rascals out&quot;.
 
 
Our latest course - Sarbanes Oxley Simplified makes the
act understandable and fun to learn.
 
Maybe enough people will spot the super control agenda 
behind acts like Sarbanes Oxley and Basel II and take back 
ownership of their countries and economies from the parasites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarbanes Oxley and acts like it are purposely designed to tighten control<br />
over free enterprise which makes enterprise, of course, less free. Sooner or later<br />
the entrepreneurs who fuel the economic engine get tired of funding<br />
parasitic government bureaucrats and rapacious &#8220;global elite&#8221; banking interests.<br />
They quit working and that is the end of an economy and the civilization.<br />
 The trend of burdening actual producers with &#8220;one size fits all&#8221; regulations is accelerating not decelerating. </p>
<p>What&#8217;s the answer?</p>
<p>How many people engaged in business really understand an Income Statement? A Balance Sheet? A Cash Flow Statement? Every one engaged in business should understand<br />
these financial reports and their personal responsibility to ensure reporting<br />
accuracy. But the % of individuals engaged in business that truly understand<br />
financial reporting is probably very small. And so they make mistakes<br />
or are open to fraud perpetrated by ethics deficient &#8220;experts&#8221;.</p>
<p>The market crashes, the public is shorn and their savings harvested.</p>
<p>Some politicians rise up on their hind legs, wring their hands and<br />
pass legislation to &#8220;protect the public&#8221;. The law gets applied<br />
to everyone whether they had an ethics problem or not. Usually,<br />
the fox in placed in charge of the chicken coop as was the case<br />
with Joe Kennedy being made the first SEC chairman by Roosevelt<br />
after Kennedy made a fortune short selling before the created crash<br />
of 1929.</p>
<p>The &#8220;global elite&#8221; pay their 100 million or so in fines<br />
negotiated by their global elite attorneys and then carry on<br />
business as usual working their fines and cost of compliance<br />
into their numbers. </p>
<p>The true entrepreneur gets squashed further.</p>
<p>The only way the &#8220;global elite&#8221; get away with this racket is<br />
to make the subject of finance so complex that us ordinary beings<br />
can&#8217;t confront it.</p>
<p>The answer is to simplify the subject matter so a critical<br />
mass of businessmen will truly understand the language<br />
of finance and its rules, will see how they are getting ripped<br />
off by parasitic elements and will &#8220;throw the rascals out&#8221;.</p>
<p>Our latest course &#8211; Sarbanes Oxley Simplified makes the<br />
act understandable and fun to learn.</p>
<p>Maybe enough people will spot the super control agenda<br />
behind acts like Sarbanes Oxley and Basel II and take back<br />
ownership of their countries and economies from the parasites.</p>
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		<title>By: Rizzn</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2006/12/09/why-republicans-need-libertarians/#comment-4197</link>
		<dc:creator>Rizzn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Dec 2006 17:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to admit, I like most Libertarians and Red-Staters, cringe at the talk of party fusion with Democrats - they are not only hateful to us Libertarians, but hateful in general.  Still, it&#039;s hard to ignore people like Frank Gonzalez who under the Democratic banner won over 40% of the vote in his district, just a few points shy of being the first federally elected Libertarian.

On the TXSLEC list this weekend, Jeff Daiell brought up some good points on the topic:
(full conversation here: (http://modernopinion.com/us/libertarian/2006/12/libertarian-strategy-should-we-focus.asp)

Also, many groups align with the Democrats because the Democrats aligned with them, at least officially, and alleged advocates of free enterprise disdained them. Those are groups we can recruit from. Finally, keep in mind that even if we peel away 3-5% among any of these groups, and especially if we do so from more than one, the bipartisans will notice and, however grudgingly, will move in our direction on some issues to attract those folks back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to admit, I like most Libertarians and Red-Staters, cringe at the talk of party fusion with Democrats &#8211; they are not only hateful to us Libertarians, but hateful in general.  Still, it&#8217;s hard to ignore people like Frank Gonzalez who under the Democratic banner won over 40% of the vote in his district, just a few points shy of being the first federally elected Libertarian.</p>
<p>On the TXSLEC list this weekend, Jeff Daiell brought up some good points on the topic:<br />
(full conversation here: (<a href="http://modernopinion.com/us/libertarian/2006/12/libertarian-strategy-should-we-focus.asp" rel="nofollow">http://modernopinion.com/us/libertarian/2006/12/libertarian-strategy-should-we-focus.asp</a>)</p>
<p>Also, many groups align with the Democrats because the Democrats aligned with them, at least officially, and alleged advocates of free enterprise disdained them. Those are groups we can recruit from. Finally, keep in mind that even if we peel away 3-5% among any of these groups, and especially if we do so from more than one, the bipartisans will notice and, however grudgingly, will move in our direction on some issues to attract those folks back.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Dondero</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2006/12/09/why-republicans-need-libertarians/#comment-4103</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Dondero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Dec 2006 18:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Precisely.  Plus Republicans are just in general, nicer people and much more accepting of us libertarians.  Democrats are rude, obnoxious, and hateful towards libertarians.  I just read one Blog where the Blogger titled their article, &quot;If you really love me, you&#039;d kill yourselves.&quot;  She was referring to libertarians.  

But it&#039;s a two-way street.  We libertarians need Republicans too.  They have excellent ballot access and a tried and true label.  We need to be loyal team players with them, as well.  

Eric at www.mainstreamlibertarian.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Precisely.  Plus Republicans are just in general, nicer people and much more accepting of us libertarians.  Democrats are rude, obnoxious, and hateful towards libertarians.  I just read one Blog where the Blogger titled their article, &#8220;If you really love me, you&#8217;d kill yourselves.&#8221;  She was referring to libertarians.  </p>
<p>But it&#8217;s a two-way street.  We libertarians need Republicans too.  They have excellent ballot access and a tried and true label.  We need to be loyal team players with them, as well.  </p>
<p>Eric at <a href="http://www.mainstreamlibertarian.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.mainstreamlibertarian.com</a></p>
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