Comments on: We Told You So http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2006/12/21/we-told-you-so/ Life. Liberty. Property. Defending individual freedom and liberty, one post at a time. Wed, 08 Feb 2012 17:04:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: CommiePuddin http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2006/12/21/we-told-you-so/#comment-4927 CommiePuddin Sat, 23 Dec 2006 04:52:53 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2006/12/21/we-told-you-so/#comment-4927 John Newman said: "Do you mean like employees of Scotts that had been employed previous to a new arbitrary and unilateral smoking policy that forces them to quit smoking using the power of the paycheck to threaten their livelihood if they don’t ‘voluntarily’ comply to stop using a legal product? I agree, that is like pulling a gun on someone." I'm confused, is Scotts the sole purchaser of labor? Will (ex-)employees be denied employment elsewhere because of their failure to comply with Scotts's policy? Because try to live in a first-world country as an expatriate without paying American taxes. Extradition stinks. John Newman said:
“Do you mean like employees of Scotts that had been employed previous to a new arbitrary and unilateral smoking policy that forces them to quit smoking using the power of the paycheck to threaten their livelihood if they don’t ‘voluntarily’ comply to stop using a legal product? I agree, that is like pulling a gun on someone.”

I’m confused, is Scotts the sole purchaser of labor? Will (ex-)employees be denied employment elsewhere because of their failure to comply with Scotts’s policy?

Because try to live in a first-world country as an expatriate without paying American taxes. Extradition stinks.

]]> By: John Newman http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2006/12/21/we-told-you-so/#comment-4837 John Newman Fri, 22 Dec 2006 16:35:43 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2006/12/21/we-told-you-so/#comment-4837 Adam said: I fail to see how paying taxes is a voluntary contract. My choice is to pay taxes or face the use of force by agents of the government. Do you mean like employees of Scotts that had been employed previous to a new arbitrary and unilateral smoking policy that forces them to quit smoking using the power of the paycheck to threaten their livelihood if they don't 'voluntarily' comply to stop using a legal product? I agree, that is like pulling a gun on someone. Adam said:
I fail to see how paying taxes is a voluntary contract. My choice is to pay taxes or face the use of force by agents of the government.

Do you mean like employees of Scotts that had been employed previous to a new arbitrary and unilateral smoking policy that forces them to quit smoking using the power of the paycheck to threaten their livelihood if they don’t ‘voluntarily’ comply to stop using a legal product? I agree, that is like pulling a gun on someone.

]]> By: Adam Selene http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2006/12/21/we-told-you-so/#comment-4829 Adam Selene Fri, 22 Dec 2006 15:54:23 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2006/12/21/we-told-you-so/#comment-4829 I fail to see how paying taxes is a voluntary contract. My choice is to pay taxes or face the use of force by agents of the government. That is no more voluntary than a gunman coming into a bank. I will agree that voting for a representative in Congress is a voluntary contract. I don't vote for people that want to continue the Drug War. Do you? I fail to see how paying taxes is a voluntary contract. My choice is to pay taxes or face the use of force by agents of the government. That is no more voluntary than a gunman coming into a bank.

I will agree that voting for a representative in Congress is a voluntary contract. I don’t vote for people that want to continue the Drug War. Do you?

]]> By: John Newman http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2006/12/21/we-told-you-so/#comment-4826 John Newman Fri, 22 Dec 2006 14:27:15 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2006/12/21/we-told-you-so/#comment-4826 If you voted, you have a voluntary contract with the representative/electorate that you agree to allow him to represent you in the legislature as he/she sees fit. Additionally, if you pay taxes, that is a voluntary contract between you and the 'state' that you agree to fund their projects. If you voted, you have a voluntary contract with the representative/electorate that you agree to allow him to represent you in the legislature as he/she sees fit. Additionally, if you pay taxes, that is a voluntary contract between you and the ‘state’ that you agree to fund their projects.

]]> By: Adam Selene http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2006/12/21/we-told-you-so/#comment-4797 Adam Selene Fri, 22 Dec 2006 06:53:21 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2006/12/21/we-told-you-so/#comment-4797 Sure thing John. Alright, now that I'm not grumpy, let's add to this. First, I did not enter into any such voluntary contract. So, the analogy doesn't work on that level, although it was a nice bit of snark on your part. Second, this is part of political discourse, speaking out against that which you find wrong. Sure thing John.

Alright, now that I’m not grumpy, let’s add to this. First, I did not enter into any such voluntary contract. So, the analogy doesn’t work on that level, although it was a nice bit of snark on your part. Second, this is part of political discourse, speaking out against that which you find wrong.

]]> By: John Newman http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2006/12/21/we-told-you-so/#comment-4788 John Newman Fri, 22 Dec 2006 04:21:04 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2006/12/21/we-told-you-so/#comment-4788 It seems to me that this is the result of a 'voluntary contract' between voters and their representatives. It seems to me that this is the result of a ‘voluntary contract’ between voters and their representatives.

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