Comments on: The San Francisco Hypocrite (See Update At The End http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/01/12/the-san-francisco-hypocrite/ Life. Liberty. Property. Defending individual freedom and liberty, one post at a time. Sat, 20 Mar 2010 19:35:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Rhymes With Right http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/01/12/the-san-francisco-hypocrite/#comment-6138 Rhymes With Right Sat, 13 Jan 2007 23:32:45 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/01/12/the-san-francisco-hypocrite/#comment-6138 Oh, and by the way -- let's not forget that one of the primary investors in one of the companies that benefits, DelMonte, is Queen Nancy's husband, who has a $17 million stake. Again -- it is an appearance of impropriety -- which House ethics rules defines as an impropriety in and of itself. Oh, and by the way — let’s not forget that one of the primary investors in one of the companies that benefits, DelMonte, is Queen Nancy’s husband, who has a $17 million stake.

Again — it is an appearance of impropriety — which House ethics rules defines as an impropriety in and of itself.

]]> By: Kevin http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/01/12/the-san-francisco-hypocrite/#comment-6022 Kevin Sat, 13 Jan 2007 01:40:56 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/01/12/the-san-francisco-hypocrite/#comment-6022 Of course, it's political payback. But, it's much harder to prove actual political corruption, but it does look corrupt. Of course, it’s political payback. But, it’s much harder to prove actual political corruption, but it does look corrupt.

]]> By: Rhymes With Right http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/01/12/the-san-francisco-hypocrite/#comment-6020 Rhymes With Right Sat, 13 Jan 2007 01:05:16 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/01/12/the-san-francisco-hypocrite/#comment-6020 On the other hand, I find it interesting that the bill ELIMINATED the exemption for the Northern Marianas but not American Samoa. Of course, the companies with an interest in the Northern Marianas having a lower wage were big supporters of Tom DeLay -- while those with the big interests in American Samoa are corporate constituents of the Speaker. It still carries with it a definite APPEARANCE of corruption, if not actual corruption, on the part of the Pelosi. On the other hand, I find it interesting that the bill ELIMINATED the exemption for the Northern Marianas but not American Samoa.

Of course, the companies with an interest in the Northern Marianas having a lower wage were big supporters of Tom DeLay — while those with the big interests in American Samoa are corporate constituents of the Speaker.

It still carries with it a definite APPEARANCE of corruption, if not actual corruption, on the part of the Pelosi.

]]> By: John Newman http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/01/12/the-san-francisco-hypocrite/#comment-6019 John Newman Sat, 13 Jan 2007 00:47:47 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/01/12/the-san-francisco-hypocrite/#comment-6019 I still don't like Nancy Pelosi and she is a hypocrite. I still don’t like Nancy Pelosi and she is a hypocrite.

]]> By: Kevin http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/01/12/the-san-francisco-hypocrite/#comment-6017 Kevin Sat, 13 Jan 2007 00:42:01 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/01/12/the-san-francisco-hypocrite/#comment-6017 John, I just looked up the actual bill, apparently you're right, there's nothing there. The Washington Times blew this one. John,

I just looked up the actual bill, apparently you’re right, there’s nothing there. The Washington Times blew this one.

]]> By: John Newman http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/01/12/the-san-francisco-hypocrite/#comment-6016 John Newman Sat, 13 Jan 2007 00:21:20 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/01/12/the-san-francisco-hypocrite/#comment-6016 From the first link I posted: The minimum wage rates for American Samoa are set by a special industry committee (29 U.S.C. 205, 29 C.F.R. Part 511) appointed by the U.S. Department of Labor, as required by the Act. This is from the first link I posted. What part of this is so gawddamn difficult to understand? The committee determines the MW. Kevin said: Nancy Pelosi got a special exemption written into law for American Samoa, where a major company based in her district happens to have substantial operations. OK, I showed you mine, now show me yours. Please produce this "special exemption written into law" that Nancy Pelosi had inserted. From the first link I posted:
The minimum wage rates for American Samoa are set by a special industry committee (29 U.S.C. 205, 29 C.F.R. Part 511) appointed by the U.S. Department of Labor, as required by the Act. This is from the first link I posted.
What part of this is so gawddamn difficult to understand? The committee determines the MW.

Kevin said:
Nancy Pelosi got a special exemption written into law for American Samoa, where a major company based in her district happens to have substantial operations.

OK, I showed you mine, now show me yours. Please produce this “special exemption written into law” that Nancy Pelosi had inserted.

]]> By: Kevin http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/01/12/the-san-francisco-hypocrite/#comment-6012 Kevin Fri, 12 Jan 2007 23:33:01 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/01/12/the-san-francisco-hypocrite/#comment-6012 Again, you're missing the point. The minimum wage was recently raised this week to $7.25. Elaine Chao's decision about the minimum wage on American Samoa is replaced by the new law. Nancy Pelosi got a special exemption written into law for American Samoa, where a major company based in her district happens to have substantial operations. Basically, Pelosi kept the exemption for American Samoa to benefit campaign contributors, when she campaigned on a Republican Culture of Corruption. She is a hypocrite. If she was really for all Americans making a "living wage", she would have included American Samoa. Again, you’re missing the point.

The minimum wage was recently raised this week to $7.25. Elaine Chao’s decision about the minimum wage on American Samoa is replaced by the new law. Nancy Pelosi got a special exemption written into law for American Samoa, where a major company based in her district happens to have substantial operations. Basically, Pelosi kept the exemption for American Samoa to benefit campaign contributors, when she campaigned on a Republican Culture of Corruption.

She is a hypocrite. If she was really for all Americans making a “living wage”, she would have included American Samoa.

]]> By: John Newman http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/01/12/the-san-francisco-hypocrite/#comment-6006 John Newman Fri, 12 Jan 2007 21:33:28 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/01/12/the-san-francisco-hypocrite/#comment-6006 What was the minimum wage in 2003? $5.15, is that correct? Now look at the wage in America Samoa: http://www.dol.gov/esa/minwage/americanSamoa/fishCanning.htm Now, why isn't the minimum wage $5.15 if the minimum wage law overrides the panel? This is not a brain teaser if you would actually read the gawddamn links. I hate Pelosi, but the fact is, she had nothing to do with this as Boortz infers? What was the minimum wage in 2003? $5.15, is that correct? Now look at the wage in America Samoa:

http://www.dol.gov/esa/minwage/americanSamoa/fishCanning.htm

Now, why isn’t the minimum wage $5.15 if the minimum wage law overrides the panel?

This is not a brain teaser if you would actually read the gawddamn links.

I hate Pelosi, but the fact is, she had nothing to do with this as Boortz infers?

]]> By: Kevin http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/01/12/the-san-francisco-hypocrite/#comment-6003 Kevin Fri, 12 Jan 2007 21:19:23 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/01/12/the-san-francisco-hypocrite/#comment-6003 Again John, Chao's actions are irrelevant since the recently passed minimum wage bill overrides her panel. Condemning Nancy Pelosi's hypocracy is not implying support for the minimum wage bill. Again John, Chao’s actions are irrelevant since the recently passed minimum wage bill overrides her panel.

Condemning Nancy Pelosi’s hypocracy is not implying support for the minimum wage bill.

]]> By: John Newman http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/01/12/the-san-francisco-hypocrite/#comment-5997 John Newman Fri, 12 Jan 2007 20:29:34 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/01/12/the-san-francisco-hypocrite/#comment-5997 WASHINGTON -- Secretary of Labor Elaine L. Chao announced the six members selected to serve on the committee to review current minimum wage rates for all industries in American Samoa covered by the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA), the federal wage and hour law. This year's hearing is scheduled to begin June 20, 2005, in Pago Pago, America Samoa. Conducted every two years, the committee hearings are open to the public. Committee members represent the public sector, employers, and employees. http://www.dol.gov/esa/media/press/whd/whdpressVB2.asp?pressdoc=sanfrancisco/20051095.xml I didn't see Pelosi's name mentioned anywhere in there. Did you? Again I'll ask, where is it stated anywhere that the obligation of Congress is to set wage standards for private business? WASHINGTON — Secretary of Labor Elaine L. Chao announced the six members selected to serve on the committee to review current minimum wage rates for all industries in American Samoa covered by the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA), the federal wage and hour law. This year’s hearing is scheduled to begin June 20, 2005, in Pago Pago, America Samoa.

Conducted every two years, the committee hearings are open to the public. Committee members represent the public sector, employers, and employees.

http://www.dol.gov/esa/media/press/whd/whdpressVB2.asp?pressdoc=sanfrancisco/20051095.xml

I didn’t see Pelosi’s name mentioned anywhere in there. Did you?

Again I’ll ask, where is it stated anywhere that the obligation of Congress is to set wage standards for private business?

]]> By: Lance http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/01/12/the-san-francisco-hypocrite/#comment-5994 Lance Fri, 12 Jan 2007 20:14:46 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/01/12/the-san-francisco-hypocrite/#comment-5994 Big Oil meet Big Tuna. Big Oil meet Big Tuna.

]]> By: Kevin http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/01/12/the-san-francisco-hypocrite/#comment-5993 Kevin Fri, 12 Jan 2007 19:41:28 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/01/12/the-san-francisco-hypocrite/#comment-5993 John, The fact is that Bush's DOL did not issue the special exemption that was voted on earlier this week. In fact, the minimum wage law, for the first time, covered the territories as well as the States. It's a tadbit hypocritical to insist on a special exemption for American Samoa, to benefit Starkist and Chicken In The Sea, while condemning Republicans for cozying up to corporate America and giving special access to big oil and Halliburton among other companies. John,

The fact is that Bush’s DOL did not issue the special exemption that was voted on earlier this week. In fact, the minimum wage law, for the first time, covered the territories as well as the States.

It’s a tadbit hypocritical to insist on a special exemption for American Samoa, to benefit Starkist and Chicken In The Sea, while condemning Republicans for cozying up to corporate America and giving special access to big oil and Halliburton among other companies.

]]> By: John Newman http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/01/12/the-san-francisco-hypocrite/#comment-5992 John Newman Fri, 12 Jan 2007 19:35:53 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/01/12/the-san-francisco-hypocrite/#comment-5992 Boortz implied because Starkist was in Pelosi's district, she had a hand in this. The fact is that Bush's DOL held meetings on this wage issue in 2006 and determined the issue prior to this new law interfering with the free market and Congress overstepping its bounds again. Other than that, there was no point. Boortz implied because Starkist was in Pelosi’s district, she had a hand in this. The fact is that Bush’s DOL held meetings on this wage issue in 2006 and determined the issue prior to this new law interfering with the free market and Congress overstepping its bounds again. Other than that, there was no point.

]]> By: Kevin http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/01/12/the-san-francisco-hypocrite/#comment-5989 Kevin Fri, 12 Jan 2007 19:08:46 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/01/12/the-san-francisco-hypocrite/#comment-5989 That's nice John, but what's the point? That’s nice John, but what’s the point?

]]> By: John Newman http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/01/12/the-san-francisco-hypocrite/#comment-5987 John Newman Fri, 12 Jan 2007 18:44:27 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/01/12/the-san-francisco-hypocrite/#comment-5987 http://www.dol.gov/esa/minwage/americanSamoa/ASminwage.htm According to this, government workers' minimum is actually lower than cannery workers. http://www.dol.gov/esa/minwage/americanSamoa/ASminwage.htm

According to this, government workers’ minimum is actually lower than cannery workers.

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