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		<title>By: VRB</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/02/19/the-real-connection-between-iraq-and-al-qaeda/#comment-13733</link>
		<dc:creator>VRB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 00:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like Doug, I want justice. The perpetrators are still out there. I would like to know for those who think other wise, if it were your brother murdered, would you be satisfied by others being prosecuted and punished for similar crimes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like Doug, I want justice. The perpetrators are still out there. I would like to know for those who think other wise, if it were your brother murdered, would you be satisfied by others being prosecuted and punished for similar crimes.</p>
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		<title>By: Husham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Husham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Craig,
            We need people like you.Your comments really made me feel great.I am quite happy to see that in this world realistic,truthful and brave people like you still exist.Keep it up Craig.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Craig,<br />
            We need people like you.Your comments really made me feel great.I am quite happy to see that in this world realistic,truthful and brave people like you still exist.Keep it up Craig.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/02/19/the-real-connection-between-iraq-and-al-qaeda/#comment-12283</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 21:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt; The Arab and the Islamic world for that matter, for various reasons, has not developed the necessary instituions and cultural prerequisites to develop and sustain a liberty minded society.&lt;/i&gt;

Wow, that&#039;s pretty racy. Politically incorrect even. And what about the African world? Or the Asian world or the Latin world or the Russian world or...? All of these places are quite different, politically, from the United States. These differences are not imposed from above. They emanate from the shared beliefs and concerns of the people. If a dictator is allowed to rule in Beijing, and his army marches to his command, that&#039;s a result of the will of the people (or lack thereof).

So what you&#039;re saying is people are different. And what is the root of these differences? Geography? Culture? Genetics? Very little of the first and a lot of the last two, I&#039;d suspect. Australians have more in common with Americans or Canadians than with Indonesians or Samoans.

The differences are so significant, in many cases, that it may lead different people to desire different types of societies, and different types of governments.

And if that&#039;s true for 100 million Muslims, why can it not be true for 100 millions Mexicans, Africans, Chinamen, or Frenchmen or anyone else?

Kevin, it is not racism that makes me want to limit immigration. The argument over which culture or race is &quot;superior&quot; is irrelevant to me. I can&#039;t stand white nationalists. It is a simple desire to keep the natural tension in a democracy to a reasonable level, as well as the environmental, cultural, and economic issues I mentioned earlier.

I&#039;m not particularly religious, but I would like to hear schoolchildren singing carols at Christmastime, without having to sing equal numbers of Hanukkah songs, Kwanzaa songs, Ramadan songs, and Chinese New Year songs. I would like our schools to teach values that are deeper and more meaningful than the multiculturalist claptrap we hear. I would like it if there wasn&#039;t a controversy everytime some police department erected a cross for a fallen officer. I would like it if the newspaper didn&#039;t have an article every week compalining about how group X is underrepresented in institution Y.

As a cynic once said: &quot;Multiculturalism, democracy, immigration: pick any two.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> The Arab and the Islamic world for that matter, for various reasons, has not developed the necessary instituions and cultural prerequisites to develop and sustain a liberty minded society.</i></p>
<p>Wow, that&#8217;s pretty racy. Politically incorrect even. And what about the African world? Or the Asian world or the Latin world or the Russian world or&#8230;? All of these places are quite different, politically, from the United States. These differences are not imposed from above. They emanate from the shared beliefs and concerns of the people. If a dictator is allowed to rule in Beijing, and his army marches to his command, that&#8217;s a result of the will of the people (or lack thereof).</p>
<p>So what you&#8217;re saying is people are different. And what is the root of these differences? Geography? Culture? Genetics? Very little of the first and a lot of the last two, I&#8217;d suspect. Australians have more in common with Americans or Canadians than with Indonesians or Samoans.</p>
<p>The differences are so significant, in many cases, that it may lead different people to desire different types of societies, and different types of governments.</p>
<p>And if that&#8217;s true for 100 million Muslims, why can it not be true for 100 millions Mexicans, Africans, Chinamen, or Frenchmen or anyone else?</p>
<p>Kevin, it is not racism that makes me want to limit immigration. The argument over which culture or race is &#8220;superior&#8221; is irrelevant to me. I can&#8217;t stand white nationalists. It is a simple desire to keep the natural tension in a democracy to a reasonable level, as well as the environmental, cultural, and economic issues I mentioned earlier.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not particularly religious, but I would like to hear schoolchildren singing carols at Christmastime, without having to sing equal numbers of Hanukkah songs, Kwanzaa songs, Ramadan songs, and Chinese New Year songs. I would like our schools to teach values that are deeper and more meaningful than the multiculturalist claptrap we hear. I would like it if there wasn&#8217;t a controversy everytime some police department erected a cross for a fallen officer. I would like it if the newspaper didn&#8217;t have an article every week compalining about how group X is underrepresented in institution Y.</p>
<p>As a cynic once said: &#8220;Multiculturalism, democracy, immigration: pick any two.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/02/19/the-real-connection-between-iraq-and-al-qaeda/#comment-12274</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 20:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;I have no idea whether youâ€™re serious or tongue-in-cheek. Some silly people actually believe that.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Tongue-in-cheek. The Arab and the Islamic world for that matter, for various reasons, has not developed the necessary instituions and cultural prerequisites to develop and sustain a liberty minded society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i>I have no idea whether youâ€™re serious or tongue-in-cheek. Some silly people actually believe that.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>Tongue-in-cheek. The Arab and the Islamic world for that matter, for various reasons, has not developed the necessary instituions and cultural prerequisites to develop and sustain a liberty minded society.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 20:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Guilty. Iâ€™m anti-tolitarian. Islam, as practiced a large segment of its adherents, is a repressive ideology targeting non-Muslims. It is no more a religion than Nazism and Communism were.&lt;/i&gt;

So what you&#039;re saying is that there are some people we can keep out of this country?

&lt;i&gt;No instead we can just bring America to them like the neo-cons want to do.&lt;/i&gt;

I have no idea whether you&#039;re serious or tongue-in-cheek. Some silly people actually believe that.

If they wanted &quot;America&quot; they could have it at anytime. The fact is that they haven&#039;t created America in their home countries and appear to have no desire to do so. A thousand monkeys with typewriters would type out the Constitution faster than these people ever will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Guilty. Iâ€™m anti-tolitarian. Islam, as practiced a large segment of its adherents, is a repressive ideology targeting non-Muslims. It is no more a religion than Nazism and Communism were.</i></p>
<p>So what you&#8217;re saying is that there are some people we can keep out of this country?</p>
<p><i>No instead we can just bring America to them like the neo-cons want to do.</i></p>
<p>I have no idea whether you&#8217;re serious or tongue-in-cheek. Some silly people actually believe that.</p>
<p>If they wanted &#8220;America&#8221; they could have it at anytime. The fact is that they haven&#8217;t created America in their home countries and appear to have no desire to do so. A thousand monkeys with typewriters would type out the Constitution faster than these people ever will.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 20:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;You know what the solution is: let them all move to the United States, where theyâ€™ll assimilate overnight and all want to be just like us.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No instead we can just bring America to them like the neo-cons want to do. 

Besides, assimilation doesn&#039;t take place over night, it takes a generation at most.

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;Youâ€™re just a hater, Kevin: a bigot and a hater.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Guilty. I&#039;m anti-tolitarian. Islam, as practiced a large segment of its adherents, is a repressive ideology targeting non-Muslims. It is no more a religion than Nazism and Communism were.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i>You know what the solution is: let them all move to the United States, where theyâ€™ll assimilate overnight and all want to be just like us.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>No instead we can just bring America to them like the neo-cons want to do. </p>
<p>Besides, assimilation doesn&#8217;t take place over night, it takes a generation at most.</p>
<blockquote><p><i>Youâ€™re just a hater, Kevin: a bigot and a hater.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>Guilty. I&#8217;m anti-tolitarian. Islam, as practiced a large segment of its adherents, is a repressive ideology targeting non-Muslims. It is no more a religion than Nazism and Communism were.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/02/19/the-real-connection-between-iraq-and-al-qaeda/#comment-12265</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 19:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Once we begin to actively come out against the ideology of Islamofascism and stop muttering nonsense like â€œIslam is a Religion of Peaceâ€ and â€œIslam and democracy are compatableâ€, then weâ€™ll start beating them. - Kevin&lt;/i&gt;

What!!! Islam isn&#039;t a religion of peace???

How can you say that Kevin? You of all people? You know what the solution is: let them all move to the United States, where they&#039;ll assimilate overnight and all want to be just like us.

Surely you can&#039;t be against that? After all, you believe that everyone has the right to go anywhere they want.

You&#039;re just a hater, Kevin: a bigot and a hater.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Once we begin to actively come out against the ideology of Islamofascism and stop muttering nonsense like â€œIslam is a Religion of Peaceâ€ and â€œIslam and democracy are compatableâ€, then weâ€™ll start beating them. &#8211; Kevin</i></p>
<p>What!!! Islam isn&#8217;t a religion of peace???</p>
<p>How can you say that Kevin? You of all people? You know what the solution is: let them all move to the United States, where they&#8217;ll assimilate overnight and all want to be just like us.</p>
<p>Surely you can&#8217;t be against that? After all, you believe that everyone has the right to go anywhere they want.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re just a hater, Kevin: a bigot and a hater.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 19:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;Well, letâ€™s ponder some alternate history for a second. Letâ€™s pretend that the United States didnâ€™t invade Iraq in 2003 and instead concentrated on the War in Afghanistan, the seach for bin Laden and the remaining Taliban leaders, and the final destruction of the al Qaeda network. Isnâ€™t it just possible that the situation in Afghanistan would be alot better than it is today ?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No and here&#039;s why. If we sent more troops to Afghanistan, I have the feeling that those Afghans who intially welcomed us would begin to start seeing Americans and the NATO forces as occupiers and the Taliban would grow into a national resistance movement against the Americans. Karzi, who is still a weak president, would be seen as nothing more than an American puppet and his government and Kabul would be more of a target of homicide bombers and other acts of terrorism and guerilla warfare.

The major reason for the successes we&#039;ve had in Afganistan is we have let the locals actively play a part in building and fighting for their country and by this, we&#039;ve managed to keep support in country for our efforts there. 

Finally, we have not been able to destroy Al-Qaeda because we have not confronted the ideology. Once we begin to actively come out against the ideology of Islamofascism and stop muttering nonsense like &quot;Islam is a Religion of Peace&quot; and &quot;Islam and democracy are compatable&quot;, then we&#039;ll start beating them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i>Well, letâ€™s ponder some alternate history for a second. Letâ€™s pretend that the United States didnâ€™t invade Iraq in 2003 and instead concentrated on the War in Afghanistan, the seach for bin Laden and the remaining Taliban leaders, and the final destruction of the al Qaeda network. Isnâ€™t it just possible that the situation in Afghanistan would be alot better than it is today ?</i></p></blockquote>
<p>No and here&#8217;s why. If we sent more troops to Afghanistan, I have the feeling that those Afghans who intially welcomed us would begin to start seeing Americans and the NATO forces as occupiers and the Taliban would grow into a national resistance movement against the Americans. Karzi, who is still a weak president, would be seen as nothing more than an American puppet and his government and Kabul would be more of a target of homicide bombers and other acts of terrorism and guerilla warfare.</p>
<p>The major reason for the successes we&#8217;ve had in Afganistan is we have let the locals actively play a part in building and fighting for their country and by this, we&#8217;ve managed to keep support in country for our efforts there. </p>
<p>Finally, we have not been able to destroy Al-Qaeda because we have not confronted the ideology. Once we begin to actively come out against the ideology of Islamofascism and stop muttering nonsense like &#8220;Islam is a Religion of Peace&#8221; and &#8220;Islam and democracy are compatable&#8221;, then we&#8217;ll start beating them.</p>
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		<title>By: Polimom Says &#187; The Taleban is al Qaeda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Polimom Says &#187; The Taleban is al Qaeda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 16:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Mataconis at The Liberty Papers: The most frustrating thing to me about the Iraq War is the way in which it has distracted us from [...]</description>
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