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		<title>By: Giles</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/02/20/just-say-no-to-the-eu/#comment-12438</link>
		<dc:creator>Giles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 05:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It must be strange for you libertarians that the Nordic countries -- that bastion of welfare capitalism (or &quot;&#039;democratic&#039; socialism&quot; as you perversely call it) -- are actually outdoing the EU with respect to employment and productivity. This &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.regjeringen.no/upload/NHD/Vedlegg/Lisboa_strategi_2007.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;new report&lt;/a&gt; (.pdf) by the Norwegian Ministry of Trade and Industry looks at data for all Nordic countries. Norway btw, has had 4% growth over several years and unemployment below 3%.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It must be strange for you libertarians that the Nordic countries &#8212; that bastion of welfare capitalism (or &#8220;&#8216;democratic&#8217; socialism&#8221; as you perversely call it) &#8212; are actually outdoing the EU with respect to employment and productivity. This <a href="http://www.regjeringen.no/upload/NHD/Vedlegg/Lisboa_strategi_2007.pdf" rel="nofollow">new report</a> (.pdf) by the Norwegian Ministry of Trade and Industry looks at data for all Nordic countries. Norway btw, has had 4% growth over several years and unemployment below 3%.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Warbiany</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/02/20/just-say-no-to-the-eu/#comment-12435</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Warbiany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 04:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually, I would point out that the Germans are really starting to do a lot better than they did in the 1990&#039;s.  Of course, the reason they&#039;re doing better is that they&#039;ve reformed their economy to be a more market-based capitalist system, rather than a centrally-planned system, but they&#039;re doing better nonetheless.  Not so for the French.

Oh, and John, one of the reasons that Ireland, eastern Europe, etc aren&#039;t used as examples is that they&#039;re not anywhere near as socialist as France and Germany.  In fact, the &quot;Old Europe&quot; countries are the ones trying to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/02/12/the-european-union-enemy-of-capitalism/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;force Switzerland to raise their taxes&lt;/a&gt; because they&#039;re &quot;too competitive&quot;.  Ireland and eastern Europe are growing quickly by being free, France and Germany are growing slowly because they&#039;re dominated by government.  And France and Germany, who are fairly powerful within the EU, would like to abolish those free policies in the rest of Europe (and elsewhere).

Oh, and I don&#039;t think you&#039;ll hear any authors at this site defending the steel tariffs or farm subsidies.  The US isn&#039;t without its warts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I would point out that the Germans are really starting to do a lot better than they did in the 1990&#8242;s.  Of course, the reason they&#8217;re doing better is that they&#8217;ve reformed their economy to be a more market-based capitalist system, rather than a centrally-planned system, but they&#8217;re doing better nonetheless.  Not so for the French.</p>
<p>Oh, and John, one of the reasons that Ireland, eastern Europe, etc aren&#8217;t used as examples is that they&#8217;re not anywhere near as socialist as France and Germany.  In fact, the &#8220;Old Europe&#8221; countries are the ones trying to <a href="http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/02/12/the-european-union-enemy-of-capitalism/" rel="nofollow">force Switzerland to raise their taxes</a> because they&#8217;re &#8220;too competitive&#8221;.  Ireland and eastern Europe are growing quickly by being free, France and Germany are growing slowly because they&#8217;re dominated by government.  And France and Germany, who are fairly powerful within the EU, would like to abolish those free policies in the rest of Europe (and elsewhere).</p>
<p>Oh, and I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;ll hear any authors at this site defending the steel tariffs or farm subsidies.  The US isn&#8217;t without its warts.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/02/20/just-say-no-to-the-eu/#comment-12430</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 03:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why France and Germany as examples? Why not the UK, or Ireland, or any of the fast-growing eastern European countries? Could it be that those two happen to suit your views?

As to protectionism - US steel tariffs? US farm tariffs?

Not that I&#039;m such a fan of the EU - but I&#039;m a fan of facing reality...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why France and Germany as examples? Why not the UK, or Ireland, or any of the fast-growing eastern European countries? Could it be that those two happen to suit your views?</p>
<p>As to protectionism &#8211; US steel tariffs? US farm tariffs?</p>
<p>Not that I&#8217;m such a fan of the EU &#8211; but I&#8217;m a fan of facing reality&#8230;</p>
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