Ron Paul was on the Lou Dobbs show last night discussing mostly the Iraq War and immigration but also touching upon his Presidential campaign:
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Rudy Giuliani is the much better candidate for libertarian-minded voters for 2008. Ron Paul doesnâ€™t understand the threat that the country faces from Islamo-Fascism. He thinks that if we just surrender to the Islamo-Fascists that they will go away and leave us alone.
If we surrender to the Islamo-Fascists, they will be on our border lobbing scud missles at Brownsville, El Paso, Tucson, and San Diego faster than you can say â€œAllah AhuAhkbar.â€
Giuliani understands the threat from Islamo-Fascism and will fight a real War on Terror, not some politically correct, soft-bellied War like Bush is fighting.
Plus, Rudy is a Tax Cutter, a Privatizer, and Tolerant on social matters.
Libertarians nationwide are rally behind Rudy. Just today we learn that a bunch of Top libertarian and conservative California Congressman and Legislators are endorsing Giuliani.
Libertarians for Giuliani at http://www.mainstreamlibertarian.com
Eric Dondero, Fmr. Senior Aide
US Congressman Ron Paul (R-TX)
For anyone to say that Guiliani is “libertarian-minded”, either has no clue of libertarian principles or badly needs to do more homework on Rudy. Rudy solves problems by increasing the size of government, not by reducing it, or limiting it to the Constitution. Rudy advocates gun control.
I’m quite ashamed that if you were a former aide of Congressman Paul, that you would announce as such and then turn around and attempt to stab him in the back.
Congressman Paul has steadfastly walked his talk and voted for the Constitutional principles of limited government.
I live in Tucson…lob all the scud missles you want.
This place is a goddamned armpit.
Hit Scottsdale next. They deserve it.
“If we surrender to the Islamo-Fascists, they will be on our border lobbing scud missles at Brownsville, El Paso, Tucson, and San Diego faster than you can say â€œAllah AhuAhkbar.â€
Lob all the scuds you want at El Paso. We have ALL the Patriots @ Ft. Bliss.
by the way, that statement proves you have ZERO understanding of “The Borderland”.
Whoa, whoa, whoa…Tucson can stay. I just moved here, the last thing I wanna do is move again. Besides, it’s better than living up in ‘davalley’. They can Scottsdale though.
They can ‘have’ Scottsdale.
Calling Rudy “Insult Catholicism and I’ll close your museum down” Giuliani a socially tolerant poltician must require a very strange definition of socially tolerant.
In fact, given the massive harm caused by his showboating prosecution of victimless “economic crimes”, I think he’s just another right-wing collectivist.
Of course, we also cannot forget his endorsements which landed his incompetent ex-driver the post of founding the Iraqi national police. Ol’ Bernie is widely credited with delaying the formation of the police force by months when the U.S. still had a chance of imposing an occupational government on Iraq. Once Bernie was fired (or encouraged to quit), Giuliani was trying to put him in charge of the Dept of Homeland Security. In fact, he alsmost succeeded.
Hell, you might as well endorse Janet Reno…
Mr Dondero, you are either a fool or you are selling your soul. Personally I don’t care which.
You’ve made the claim that Giuliani is a “libertarian” many times and you’re entitled to your opinion. I just happen to think you’re wrong.
Just because Rudy is pro-choice and favors gay marriage doesn’t mean he’s a libertarian. What about his stand on 2nd Amendment rights ? What about his stand on the War on Drugs ?
Giuliani consistently showed during his tenure as U.S. Attorney and Mayor of New York that he was more of an authoritarian than a believer in the idea that “that government is best which governs least.”
Just look at his tenure as Mayor, you certainly can’t say that he cut the size of NYC government significantly. He used zoning laws to shut down legitimate businesses deemed “harmful to public morals.” He lobbied for increased restrictions on gun ownership and an expansion of the War On (Some) Drugs. He went to Albany and lobbied for as much state money — from taxpayers who didn’t live in the Five Boroughs — as he could get. I respect him for turning NYC around and making it a far more livable place than it was in the 1970s and 80s, but — unless you completely dilute the idea of what a libertarian means to the point where it means nothing — there’s just no way he’s a libertarian.
Libertarianism, or classical liberalism, is about more than cutting taxes and opposing bans on gay marriage, its about believing that the individual knows better than the state what is in his best interest and trusting in individual choices. Based on his record, I really don’t think Rudy believes in that at all.
Dondero has been going to all sorts of libertarian blogs spouting this crap. Basically he just has it in for Paul.
Isn’t Bush funding those “Islamo-Fascist” at the moment? If we are going to fight a war we should take on the bad guys such as Saudi Arabia rather than have a bunch of political appointees invent intelligence, spread it, and use it to justify war with countries that are not a threat to us.
Our border is wide open for “Islamo-Fascist.” I think most libertarians see illegal immigration as more the merrier maybe I’m mistaken? I guess I could be persuaded into allowing a few more people to immigrate in a year. I have too low of an opinion on human nature to believe if we continue to let everyone in that we could all get along singing Kumbaya. It would be more like the Balkans or Iraq in my mind when the Empire finally goes broke. Most illegal aliens are warm and friendly but there are like any group of people a few bad seeds.
I’m concerned about Ron Paul’s position on immigration. I was hoping for a “no, I don’t support a guest worker program.” There is no need for immigration reform, only immigration law enforcement. There are workers here in America to fill jobs that are needed but some jobs Americans won’t do for near slave labor prices. Our money is becoming worthless as it is. There are Americans that are dead because of lack of border enforcement so some scrooges can have low paid workers.