Comments on: Democrats Announce Their Iraq Pullout Plan http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/03/08/democrats-announce-their-iraq-pullout-plan/ Life. Liberty. Property. Defending individual freedom and liberty, one post at a time. Sat, 20 Mar 2010 19:35:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Gil John http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/03/08/democrats-announce-their-iraq-pullout-plan/#comment-16482 Gil John Sat, 10 Mar 2007 17:35:43 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/03/08/democrats-announce-their-iraq-pullout-plan/#comment-16482 The solution must lie in the hands of the Iraqis themselves. Although I hate to say it, Saddam was the balancer in the middle east. Eventually this all would have happened anyway, it is inevitable. Just go back to your history lessons. The region has been in turmoil for most of the pre and post modern eras. The countless decades of oppression can not be swept under the carpet in the disguise as democracy. Whoever thought democracy will work in the Middle East where Muslim religion rules are either stupid or hopeless optimists. Just study the Muslim religion and you will know that as ever increasing dire straits, hunger, and oppression occur, there will be more militants, and extremists. Just look at central Africa, it will be another hotbed for terrorist recruits than ever before. We are lucky there are no valuable resources to plunder and keep our consuming lifestyles at current levels or we would be in central africa fighting ethnic wars there as well. So long as america is complacent there will be no change, so long as it doesn't interfere with day to day life there will be no mass demonstrations like Brazil in recent days. We should take an example from Brazilians and start taking to the streets in demonstrations to protest the Bush's Administrations policies. The solution must lie in the hands of the Iraqis themselves. Although I hate to say it, Saddam was the balancer in the middle east. Eventually this all would have happened anyway, it is inevitable. Just go back to your history lessons. The region has been in turmoil for most of the pre and post modern eras.

The countless decades of oppression can not be swept under the carpet in the disguise as democracy. Whoever thought democracy will work in the Middle East where Muslim religion rules are either stupid or hopeless optimists.

Just study the Muslim religion and you will know that as ever increasing dire straits, hunger, and oppression occur, there will be more militants, and extremists. Just look at central Africa, it will be another hotbed for terrorist recruits than ever before. We are lucky there are no valuable resources to plunder and keep our consuming lifestyles at current levels or we would be in central africa fighting ethnic wars there as well.

So long as america is complacent there will be no change, so long as it doesn’t interfere with day to day life there will be no mass demonstrations like Brazil in recent days. We should take an example from Brazilians and start taking to the streets in demonstrations to protest the Bush’s Administrations policies.

]]> By: Watercloset http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/03/08/democrats-announce-their-iraq-pullout-plan/#comment-16011 Watercloset Fri, 09 Mar 2007 08:18:53 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/03/08/democrats-announce-their-iraq-pullout-plan/#comment-16011 The jihadists will still be in Iraq whether we leave tomorrow or ten years from tomorrow. There is no good plan now, no victory that is remotely possible unless we just declare victory and leave. The main question is how many more American soldiers do we want to kill or maim before the government in D.C. finally understands. It should be noted, though, that the jihadists were not there before Bush decided to go in for the oil and to prove that he was a tough guy by taking out the guy that had tweaked his father's nose. The jihad cowboys know that we are stuck in Iraq with little hope of getting out in the near future. What a bummer this all is. The jihadists will still be in Iraq whether we leave tomorrow or ten years from tomorrow. There is no good plan now, no victory that is remotely possible unless we just declare victory and leave. The main question is how many more American soldiers do we want to kill or maim before the government in D.C. finally understands. It should be noted, though, that the jihadists were not there before Bush decided to go in for the oil and to prove that he was a tough guy by taking out the guy that had tweaked his father’s nose. The jihad cowboys know that we are stuck in Iraq with little hope of getting out in the near future. What a bummer this all is.

]]> By: uhm http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/03/08/democrats-announce-their-iraq-pullout-plan/#comment-15915 uhm Fri, 09 Mar 2007 03:37:50 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/03/08/democrats-announce-their-iraq-pullout-plan/#comment-15915 I believe we should leave Iraq and accept a Shia controlled Iraq or kill them all. I believe we should leave Iraq and accept a Shia controlled Iraq or kill them all.

]]> By: tkc http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/03/08/democrats-announce-their-iraq-pullout-plan/#comment-15814 tkc Thu, 08 Mar 2007 23:21:52 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/03/08/democrats-announce-their-iraq-pullout-plan/#comment-15814 This is what I said about it on my blog <i>To be blunt, this has to be one of the stupidest plans ever. If you're in the insurgency or one of the jihadists there are three dates to circle on your calendar. July 1, 2007, October 1, 2007, and March 1, 2008. For July 1st, your mission is to make sure that the benchmarks are not met. If that doesn't work your next date is October 1st to try to do the same thing. If you can stop these benchmarks from being met, then the US will have to leave. Victory is achieved. If by some chance you don't succeed the first two times then there is a third date of March 1st, 2008 to look forward to. No matter what, the US will be leaving. So start killing everything in sight. Attack anything and everything. Keep this up through August and then declare that the US had to withdraw because of your attacks. Victory is achieved by default. This plan is nothing more than a strategy guild for the insurgents and jihadists for how to win. It is not just a little bit stupid. It is dangerously stupid.</i> This is a plan for defeat. This is what I said about it on my blog
To be blunt, this has to be one of the stupidest plans ever. If you’re in the insurgency or one of the jihadists there are three dates to circle on your calendar. July 1, 2007, October 1, 2007, and March 1, 2008.
For July 1st, your mission is to make sure that the benchmarks are not met. If that doesn’t work your next date is October 1st to try to do the same thing. If you can stop these benchmarks from being met, then the US will have to leave. Victory is achieved.
If by some chance you don’t succeed the first two times then there is a third date of March 1st, 2008 to look forward to. No matter what, the US will be leaving. So start killing everything in sight. Attack anything and everything. Keep this up through August and then declare that the US had to withdraw because of your attacks. Victory is achieved by default.

This plan is nothing more than a strategy guild for the insurgents and jihadists for how to win. It is not just a little bit stupid. It is dangerously stupid.

This is a plan for defeat.

]]> By: tb http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/03/08/democrats-announce-their-iraq-pullout-plan/#comment-15800 tb Thu, 08 Mar 2007 22:36:39 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/03/08/democrats-announce-their-iraq-pullout-plan/#comment-15800 This is a good plan. The US government has had plenty of time to do the job already, if not for its incompetence. Maybe the Iraqis can get it put together by then. If not, it is mainly their problem. They, too, have had plenty of time to get it figured out and have let tribal ambitions get in the way. This is a good plan. The US government has had plenty of time to do the job already, if not for its incompetence. Maybe the Iraqis can get it put together by then. If not, it is mainly their problem. They, too, have had plenty of time to get it figured out and have let tribal ambitions get in the way.

]]> By: Greg in Dallas http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/03/08/democrats-announce-their-iraq-pullout-plan/#comment-15797 Greg in Dallas Thu, 08 Mar 2007 22:35:01 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/03/08/democrats-announce-their-iraq-pullout-plan/#comment-15797 Please don't call this a plan for success. We lost that many innocent citizens in one day, Sept. 11. The terrorist are busy in Iran and Iraq. Better than in the USA. I agree we do need a better strategy. But even the Dems were calling for immediate removal not that long ago. I would not call this latest development courageous. It is cowardesque because it it only a political play. Please don’t call this a plan for success. We lost that many innocent citizens in one day, Sept. 11. The terrorist are busy in Iran and Iraq. Better than in the USA. I agree we do need a better strategy. But even the Dems were calling for immediate removal not that long ago. I would not call this latest development courageous. It is cowardesque because it it only a political play.

]]> By: Roger The Okcitykid http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/03/08/democrats-announce-their-iraq-pullout-plan/#comment-15794 Roger The Okcitykid Thu, 08 Mar 2007 22:33:49 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/03/08/democrats-announce-their-iraq-pullout-plan/#comment-15794 Concerning the jihadist victory tkc speaks of. All they have to do is wait for us to blow our wad in Iraq and attack us in America. Let the jihadist have Iraq. The troops took an oath to defend America not Iraq. Concerning the jihadist victory tkc speaks of. All they have to do is wait for us to blow our wad in Iraq and attack us in America.

Let the jihadist have Iraq. The troops took an oath to defend America not Iraq.

]]> By: Roger The Okcitykid http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/03/08/democrats-announce-their-iraq-pullout-plan/#comment-15792 Roger The Okcitykid Thu, 08 Mar 2007 22:27:10 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/03/08/democrats-announce-their-iraq-pullout-plan/#comment-15792 Its not enough, but better than nothing. I know they have a tough job, but I wish they would get tougher. Tough enough to accomplish this job and get our soldiers home. Its not enough, but better than nothing. I know they have a tough job, but I wish they would get tougher. Tough enough to accomplish this job and get our soldiers home.

]]> By: tkc http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/03/08/democrats-announce-their-iraq-pullout-plan/#comment-15764 tkc Thu, 08 Mar 2007 20:57:02 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/03/08/democrats-announce-their-iraq-pullout-plan/#comment-15764 The problem with this plan is that it is road map for the insurgency/jihadist victory. Just hold out till August '08. The sickening part about it is that it is being done for partisan political reasons. The problem with this plan is that it is road map for the insurgency/jihadist victory. Just hold out till August ‘08.
The sickening part about it is that it is being done for partisan political reasons.

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