Comments on: Tyranny and the Right to Leave

By: Craig

Craig — Thu, 22 Mar 2007 05:36:20 +0000

“Liberty and high population destiny often are mutually exclusive.”

All the more reason to let gazillions of immigrants in! No more liberty!

“Just because itâ€™s happening in a third world nation doesnâ€™t mean it couldnâ€™t happen in Britain, or here. Keep that in mind when discussing things like RealID.”

Yes, and it’s MORE likely to happen here because of our immigration policies. Who are we letting into our country? People from places like Zimbabwe, where liberty isn’t much tolerated. But we just assume that once they cross that line in the sand they’ll magically morph into liberty-loving Americans.

It’s not location that defines a nation – it’s the people who live there.

The government already has far more information on you than what’s in Real ID. All that Real ID does is make sure that you are who you say you are.

By: uhm

uhm — Tue, 20 Mar 2007 03:36:15 +0000

We need to find Earth like planets then figure out the means to get to them!

Yes, that is a dream of mine to buy up some land and retire away from neighbors or a town.

By: Kevin

Kevin — Mon, 19 Mar 2007 17:18:48 +0000

If we can wrestle space flight from government control, I think that is libertyâ€™s true hope. But I donâ€™t know if thatâ€™ll happen in my lifetime.

Costs will have to come down and more technological advancement would have to happen first. Otherwise, it would be too cost prohibitive for the private sector to get involved in space travel.

By: mike

mike — Mon, 19 Mar 2007 15:23:31 +0000

Spaceflight is the key. The template, in my mind, would be something along the lines of what takes place in the Firefly/Serenity universe. (If you haven’t seen that series and that film, rent them. Now. Firefly is the best TV show I’ve ever seen. And I’m a huge BSG fan. Anyway.) What takes place is that mankind branches out from an overpopulated Earth, establishing colonies in other star systems. There is an authoritarian government in place in the central “civilized” systems, but those that want nothing to do with that government are simply able to move further out to escape the government’s clutches.

I’d also second Brad’s sentiment that about the only place for true freedom is some place with a frontier. However, I’d add that certain states in the western U.S. (Wyoming, Idaho, and Montana come to mind, along with possibly the Dakotas and parts of Nebraska and Kansas) have rather liberty oriented societies, where as long as you pay your taxes and don’t kill anyone you’re generally free to do as you wish, provided you live far enough away from the nearest town.

And of course, there’s the Free State Project, but that’s a whole ‘nother story.

By: Brad Warbiany

Brad Warbiany — Mon, 19 Mar 2007 14:57:13 +0000

uhm,

Unfortunately I’m not sure this isn’t a global phenomenon. I think the only places left are places with a fronteir, like northern Canada, Alaska, or Siberia. Liberty and high population destiny often are mutually exclusive.

You may someday see a solution. If we can wrestle space flight from government control, I think that is liberty’s true hope. But I don’t know if that’ll happen in my lifetime.

By: uhm

uhm — Mon, 19 Mar 2007 01:08:37 +0000

I look around and see rising Authoritarianism everywhere. It looks like many countries are adopting that playbook. Where is a liberty lover to live?

By: Brad Warbiany

Brad Warbiany — Mon, 19 Mar 2007 00:34:41 +0000

Following the playbook of the Soviet Union, Cuba, etc. I’m actually surprised that Chavez in Venezuela hasn’t shut down the exits yet.

Socialists know that the people who want to leave are usually the productive ones, and they know their society will collapse if those people are not held in check.