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	<title>Comments on: Rudolph Giuliani In His Own Words</title>
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		<title>By: Doug Mataconis</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/03/20/rudolph-giuliani-in-his-own-words/#comment-20902</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Mataconis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 00:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kevin &amp; Brad,

In the past, I probably would follow Brad&#039;s lead and vote LP if given the choice between Rudy and Hillary...or McCain and Hillary....or Rudy and Obama....or McCain and Obama.

You get the idea.

I would consider doing that this time around, but only if the LP actually nominates someone credible.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin &amp; Brad,</p>
<p>In the past, I probably would follow Brad&#8217;s lead and vote LP if given the choice between Rudy and Hillary&#8230;or McCain and Hillary&#8230;.or Rudy and Obama&#8230;.or McCain and Obama.</p>
<p>You get the idea.</p>
<p>I would consider doing that this time around, but only if the LP actually nominates someone credible.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/03/20/rudolph-giuliani-in-his-own-words/#comment-20867</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 21:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;Left with a choice between Hillary and Rudy, the option of moving to New Zealand would be very tempting.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Better yet, Australia. Or perhaps even New Hampshire.

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;Donâ€™t do that. That falls into their false choice. If Iâ€™m faced with Rudy vs. Hillary, Iâ€™ll probably vote for the Libertarian candidate.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And why should I reward the incompetant loon the LP will probably nominate with my vote? Just because the Republican and Democrat candidates are horrendous (like a Rudy/Hillary race) doesn&#039;t mean an unqualified Libertarian should receive your vote. Try staying home and selling hot dogs outside the polling place.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i>Left with a choice between Hillary and Rudy, the option of moving to New Zealand would be very tempting.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>Better yet, Australia. Or perhaps even New Hampshire.</p>
<blockquote><p><i>Donâ€™t do that. That falls into their false choice. If Iâ€™m faced with Rudy vs. Hillary, Iâ€™ll probably vote for the Libertarian candidate.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>And why should I reward the incompetant loon the LP will probably nominate with my vote? Just because the Republican and Democrat candidates are horrendous (like a Rudy/Hillary race) doesn&#8217;t mean an unqualified Libertarian should receive your vote. Try staying home and selling hot dogs outside the polling place.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Warbiany</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/03/20/rudolph-giuliani-in-his-own-words/#comment-20866</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Warbiany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 21:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kevin,

Don&#039;t do that.  That falls into their false choice.  If I&#039;m faced with Rudy vs. Hillary, I&#039;ll probably vote for the Libertarian candidate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin,</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t do that.  That falls into their false choice.  If I&#8217;m faced with Rudy vs. Hillary, I&#8217;ll probably vote for the Libertarian candidate.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Mataconis</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/03/20/rudolph-giuliani-in-his-own-words/#comment-20854</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Mataconis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 20:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kevin,

Left with a choice between Hillary and Rudy, the option of moving to New Zealand would be very tempting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin,</p>
<p>Left with a choice between Hillary and Rudy, the option of moving to New Zealand would be very tempting.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/03/20/rudolph-giuliani-in-his-own-words/#comment-20851</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 20:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Eric,

If given a choice between Hillary and Rudy, I&#039;ll vote Hillary. At least Hillary will have opposition to her totalitarian agenda while Rudy&#039;s totalitarian agenda will have no opposition and quiet obedient support.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric,</p>
<p>If given a choice between Hillary and Rudy, I&#8217;ll vote Hillary. At least Hillary will have opposition to her totalitarian agenda while Rudy&#8217;s totalitarian agenda will have no opposition and quiet obedient support.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Warbiany</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/03/20/rudolph-giuliani-in-his-own-words/#comment-20756</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Warbiany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 14:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Eric,

Why would I want to vote for someone that expects me to cede a great deal of my rights to his &quot;lawful authority&quot;?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric,</p>
<p>Why would I want to vote for someone that expects me to cede a great deal of my rights to his &#8220;lawful authority&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Dondero</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/03/20/rudolph-giuliani-in-his-own-words/#comment-20744</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Dondero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 14:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Note to Kevin...  Giuliani cut taxes in NYC 26 times as Mayor.  

Has Hillary Clinton ever cut taxes?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note to Kevin&#8230;  Giuliani cut taxes in NYC 26 times as Mayor.  </p>
<p>Has Hillary Clinton ever cut taxes?</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Dondero</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/03/20/rudolph-giuliani-in-his-own-words/#comment-20741</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Dondero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 14:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kevin asks what&#039;s the difference between Giuliani and Hillary?

Answer: 30 points.

Giuliani scored as a Moderate Libertarian on OntheIssues.com with a 60/60.

Hillary scored as a Liberal with 60/30.

Now which one would you rather have?

BTW, Ron Paul scored a 70/70.  He was the best scorer on the Index.  Though, he continues to poll at less than 2%, at 0% in fact, in most national polls.

So, which would you rather have, the 60/60 scorer who might actually win, or the 70/70 scorer at less than 2% in national polls?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin asks what&#8217;s the difference between Giuliani and Hillary?</p>
<p>Answer: 30 points.</p>
<p>Giuliani scored as a Moderate Libertarian on OntheIssues.com with a 60/60.</p>
<p>Hillary scored as a Liberal with 60/30.</p>
<p>Now which one would you rather have?</p>
<p>BTW, Ron Paul scored a 70/70.  He was the best scorer on the Index.  Though, he continues to poll at less than 2%, at 0% in fact, in most national polls.</p>
<p>So, which would you rather have, the 60/60 scorer who might actually win, or the 70/70 scorer at less than 2% in national polls?</p>
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		<title>By: Jono</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/03/20/rudolph-giuliani-in-his-own-words/#comment-20302</link>
		<dc:creator>Jono</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 00:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He is quite fluent in doublespeak.

The only possible defence might be in the words &quot;cede authority&quot;...

Did he possibly refer to voluntarily ceding authority over to some authority who has discretion over many decisions ? 

I very much doubt it. I think he&#039;s referring to being coercively governed and heavily regulated.

Although this was 1994, I&#039;d be very scared if Rudy didn&#039;t immediately distance himself from those comments.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He is quite fluent in doublespeak.</p>
<p>The only possible defence might be in the words &#8220;cede authority&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>Did he possibly refer to voluntarily ceding authority over to some authority who has discretion over many decisions ? </p>
<p>I very much doubt it. I think he&#8217;s referring to being coercively governed and heavily regulated.</p>
<p>Although this was 1994, I&#8217;d be very scared if Rudy didn&#8217;t immediately distance himself from those comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Mataconis</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/03/20/rudolph-giuliani-in-his-own-words/#comment-20299</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Mataconis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 00:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Logan, I picked it up from a post at LewRockwell.com and they linked to a Yahoo group that had a link to the NY Times. I should&#039;ve noted that in the post]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Logan, I picked it up from a post at LewRockwell.com and they linked to a Yahoo group that had a link to the NY Times. I should&#8217;ve noted that in the post</p>
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		<title>By: LoganFerree</title>
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		<dc:creator>LoganFerree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 23:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Doug, I&#039;m tracking down how this quote managed to spread online, what was your source in pointing this out to you?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug, I&#8217;m tracking down how this quote managed to spread online, what was your source in pointing this out to you?</p>
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		<title>By: uhm</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/03/20/rudolph-giuliani-in-his-own-words/#comment-20228</link>
		<dc:creator>uhm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 20:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[People do call him a &quot;Moderate Libertarian.&quot; He looks like a Liberal Republican to me as well. 

I support the troops. I don&#039;t want their sacrifices to be in vain. 

The last sentence saying freedom is when people give up a &quot;great deal of&quot; privacy sounds like someone who is for a &quot;police state.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People do call him a &#8220;Moderate Libertarian.&#8221; He looks like a Liberal Republican to me as well. </p>
<p>I support the troops. I don&#8217;t want their sacrifices to be in vain. </p>
<p>The last sentence saying freedom is when people give up a &#8220;great deal of&#8221; privacy sounds like someone who is for a &#8220;police state.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: BCSBuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>BCSBuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 18:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not sure why all the handwringing.  Without lawful authority you have either A) unlawful authority (i.e. dictatorship) or B) no authority (i.e. anarchy).  

I see nothing in here that says &quot;police state.&quot;  In fact, the first sentence says something very supportive of limited government: &quot;We constantly present the false impression that government can solve problems that government in America was designed not to solve.&quot;  The highlighted passage seems to me to express the genius of America, that we are one of the free-est countries on the planet precisely because of our enlightened rule of law, not in spite of it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure why all the handwringing.  Without lawful authority you have either A) unlawful authority (i.e. dictatorship) or B) no authority (i.e. anarchy).  </p>
<p>I see nothing in here that says &#8220;police state.&#8221;  In fact, the first sentence says something very supportive of limited government: &#8220;We constantly present the false impression that government can solve problems that government in America was designed not to solve.&#8221;  The highlighted passage seems to me to express the genius of America, that we are one of the free-est countries on the planet precisely because of our enlightened rule of law, not in spite of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Wild Pegasus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wild Pegasus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 16:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Guys, need I remind you GOD BLESS AMERICA UNITED WE STAND SUPPORT THE TROOPS 9/11 NEVAR FORGET WE MUST FIGHT THEM THERE OR THEY MARCH ON AKRON

- Josh]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys, need I remind you GOD BLESS AMERICA UNITED WE STAND SUPPORT THE TROOPS 9/11 NEVAR FORGET WE MUST FIGHT THEM THERE OR THEY MARCH ON AKRON</p>
<p>- Josh</p>
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		<title>By: Mark T</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/03/20/rudolph-giuliani-in-his-own-words/#comment-20072</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 13:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This stuns me.  The references to the slogans from &quot;1984&quot; are dead-on.  How can a rational, thinking person define freedom as the subjugation of all of oneself not just to a person, but to a bureaucracy (today&#039;s implementation of &quot;lawful authority&quot; at multiple levels)?  A bureaucracy, like other large organizations, has no soul, no conscience, and no ethics.  Who watches the watchers?

If he would define freedom in this way, I cannot trust the rest of his remarks to reflect the plain, common understanding of those words either.  Anything he says could mean anything that could be imagined.

Give me liberty and do NOT give me Rudolph Giuliani.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This stuns me.  The references to the slogans from &#8220;1984&#8243; are dead-on.  How can a rational, thinking person define freedom as the subjugation of all of oneself not just to a person, but to a bureaucracy (today&#8217;s implementation of &#8220;lawful authority&#8221; at multiple levels)?  A bureaucracy, like other large organizations, has no soul, no conscience, and no ethics.  Who watches the watchers?</p>
<p>If he would define freedom in this way, I cannot trust the rest of his remarks to reflect the plain, common understanding of those words either.  Anything he says could mean anything that could be imagined.</p>
<p>Give me liberty and do NOT give me Rudolph Giuliani.</p>
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