Comments on: Another School Free Speech Case http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/03/22/another-school-free-speech-case/ Life. Liberty. Property. Defending individual freedom and liberty, one post at a time. Wed, 22 May 2013 18:26:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: Adam Selene http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/03/22/another-school-free-speech-case/#comment-21921 Adam Selene Sun, 25 Mar 2007 20:45:48 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/03/22/another-school-free-speech-case/#comment-21921 Joe Schmo:

Therefore this should be allowed as a comment to this article, however I have my doubts whether or not it will as it probably doesn’t agree with this webpages motif.

I’m amazed at the number of people who believe we will censor their comments because they don’t agree with our “motif”, “beliefs”, etc. You are just another in a long line that has claimed we would censor your comment for that reason.

Funny thing, in all the time this blog has existed, we have never censored someone. We have come very close with one commenter, but even then only had to point out why (it was due to ad hominem attacks). Why is it that you impute your values to us?

]]> By: Jeremy http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/03/22/another-school-free-speech-case/#comment-21905 Jeremy Sun, 25 Mar 2007 19:36:22 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/03/22/another-school-free-speech-case/#comment-21905 The British television documentary The Root of All Evil helps explain why some religions are so hostile. The full documentary can be viewed at the following links:

The Root of All Evil – The God Delusion (Part 1 of 2)
(48 minutes)

The Root of All Evil – The Virus of Faith (Part 2 of 2)
(43 minutes)

]]> By: Jeremy http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/03/22/another-school-free-speech-case/#comment-21904 Jeremy Sun, 25 Mar 2007 19:32:34 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/03/22/another-school-free-speech-case/#comment-21904 The plaintiff’s attorney is the Alliance Defense Fund. This organization provides lawyers and takes on case for right wing christian fundamentalist causes.

Gay sex is really not the issue. Its power, as described in For the Christian Right, Gay-Hating Is Just the Start, which makes very interesting reading.

]]> By: Jeremy http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/03/22/another-school-free-speech-case/#comment-21903 Jeremy Sun, 25 Mar 2007 19:31:07 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/03/22/another-school-free-speech-case/#comment-21903 Students will win with a court decision in favor of the school’s right to create safe and calm learning environment.

Schools should create a safe and calm environment in which students can focus on learning and social skills to get along with many different kinds of people. No student should be allowed to promote hatred, disrepect and intolerance towards other students.

]]> By: uhm http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/03/22/another-school-free-speech-case/#comment-21085 uhm Fri, 23 Mar 2007 03:52:09 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/03/22/another-school-free-speech-case/#comment-21085 All this over a T-shirt that doesn’t say much at all. They cried foul when a girl stood up to their social engineering. Political correctness the new face of Authoritarianism.

]]> By: Doug Mataconis http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/03/22/another-school-free-speech-case/#comment-21071 Doug Mataconis Fri, 23 Mar 2007 03:33:13 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/03/22/another-school-free-speech-case/#comment-21071 Joe,

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

I see nothing in there about an “offensive speech” exclusion. And, if you’d bother to do a little research you’d know that the Supreme Court ruled
as long as 60 years ago that students do not shed their constitutional rights at the school house door.

If the principal sees fit to allow those who advocate “day of silence day” to stage their demonstration, then any action to prohibit her from stating her opinion is clearly a violation of the First Amendment.

And, for the record, I disagree with Heidi’s opinion, but I will defend to the death her right to express it.

]]> By: Joe Schmo http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/03/22/another-school-free-speech-case/#comment-21067 Joe Schmo Fri, 23 Mar 2007 03:27:39 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/03/22/another-school-free-speech-case/#comment-21067 In my opinion, she has no right to express her opinion. I am not gay and I find her ideas offensive as well, her passing this off as the Christian way is complete Bull Shit and she shouldn’t say stuff like that. As a Christian she makes us all look bad, no where does the Bible say God hates homosexuals, it is rather God is against homosexual acts. There is no protection of “hate” speech in the constitution, people interprete it in which ever way is most convenient to them. Freedom of speech was intended to allow people to speak out against injustices in government, not to inspire violence against others. This does not apply at all in this case. And either way according to the Neuqua Valley handbook, concerning appropriate school wear. Any student may be asked to change their clothing if it is deamed offensive to a teacher. And Heidi’s actions in previous years fit under gross insubordination according to the rules. As she refused to change the shirt herself and continued to wear it anyway. This is information not from the paper, but rather from an inside source. She could and should have been expelled, now she is simply taking advantage of the system to promote her own and largely her mothers agendas. People like her make me sick. Her constitutional rights were not breached, according to numerous court rulings, students effectively have no inherent rights, this is so that a school district may provide for a safe environment for the students. The day of silence promotes acceptance and peace, all she is trying to do is cause hatred. Spawned completely out of ignorance. Her situation is analogous to, if another student came to school wearing a shirt saying “Be white, not a (insert minority slur here).” Hatred is a fact of life, but with the strides towards equality is society, ignorant people undo years of progress. The administration at NVHS was right in their actions and they will win this lawsuit. If they don’t it sets a precident that will contribute to the downfall of our great nation.

disclaimer-as an American I have the inherent right to express my opinion, unless it is has potential to cause harm to others. Therefore this should be allowed as a comment to this article, however I have my doubts whether or not it will as it probably doesn’t agree with this webpages motif.

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