Comments on: Ron Paul: Flying Under The Radar http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/03/ron-paul-flying-under-the-radar/ Life. Liberty. Property. Defending individual freedom and liberty, one post at a time. Thu, 18 Mar 2010 23:29:23 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Brian Miller http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/03/ron-paul-flying-under-the-radar/#comment-25831 Brian Miller Thu, 19 Apr 2007 00:30:00 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/03/ron-paul-flying-under-the-radar/#comment-25831 <i> Brian appears to support Big Government Libertarianism (son of the French Revolution not Pat Henry I guess) where a strong central state will enforce abstract rights.</i> Brian is no such thing. Brian supports the Bill of Rights, which puts restrictions on all levels of government -- state, federal and local -- while ceding all other rights to the people. Mr. Paul and his boosters are the big-government Libertarians. After all, Paul has a history of supporting government definition (and regulation) of family relationships, finances, movement, trade, and investment. I suppose it's a small government libertarian who wants to seal the borders up tight, make us carry around ID papers, restrict our ability to buy the products we want, and regulate our family lives through imposition of federal definitions of "marriage," right? Don't make me laugh! Brian appears to support Big Government Libertarianism (son of the French Revolution not Pat Henry I guess) where a strong central state will enforce abstract rights.

Brian is no such thing. Brian supports the Bill of Rights, which puts restrictions on all levels of government — state, federal and local — while ceding all other rights to the people.

Mr. Paul and his boosters are the big-government Libertarians. After all, Paul has a history of supporting government definition (and regulation) of family relationships, finances, movement, trade, and investment.

I suppose it’s a small government libertarian who wants to seal the borders up tight, make us carry around ID papers, restrict our ability to buy the products we want, and regulate our family lives through imposition of federal definitions of “marriage,” right?

Don’t make me laugh!

]]> By: Estrella Eguino http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/03/ron-paul-flying-under-the-radar/#comment-24436 Estrella Eguino Thu, 05 Apr 2007 19:46:03 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/03/ron-paul-flying-under-the-radar/#comment-24436 Ron Paul was great on the Bill Mahr show. I lost a lot of respect for Bill though. I used to watch him on Politically Incorrect and the only reason why I tuned in now was to watch Ron Paul. Bill's attempt to diminish Mr. Paul backfired in a big way... If Ron Paul is not on the next presidential ballot. I WILL NOT VOTE. Ron Paul was great on the Bill Mahr show. I lost a lot of respect for Bill though. I used to watch him on Politically Incorrect and the only reason why I tuned in now was to watch Ron Paul. Bill’s attempt to diminish Mr. Paul backfired in a big way… If Ron Paul is not on the next presidential ballot. I WILL NOT VOTE.

]]> By: Ron Paul: Flying Under The Radar « Tons of Fresh News http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/03/ron-paul-flying-under-the-radar/#comment-24174 Ron Paul: Flying Under The Radar « Tons of Fresh News Wed, 04 Apr 2007 10:35:37 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/03/ron-paul-flying-under-the-radar/#comment-24174 [...] Paul: Flying Under The Radar Ron Paul: Flying Under The Radar The Liberty Papers Blog: Ron Paul on MSNBC[world & business] [2008 u.s. elections] [...] [...] Paul: Flying Under The Radar Ron Paul: Flying Under The Radar The Liberty Papers Blog: Ron Paul on MSNBC[world & business] [2008 u.s. elections] [...]

]]> By: Brad Warbiany http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/03/ron-paul-flying-under-the-radar/#comment-24150 Brad Warbiany Wed, 04 Apr 2007 00:45:11 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/03/ron-paul-flying-under-the-radar/#comment-24150 Eric, I thought you didn't consider someone like Ron Paul to be a true libertarian. After all, unlike your BFF-libertarian Rudy Giuliani, Ron Paul doesn't support the Iraq war OR the Patriot Act! He has a fundamentally different message than you do. Why do you care how he delivers it? Eric,

I thought you didn’t consider someone like Ron Paul to be a true libertarian. After all, unlike your BFF-libertarian Rudy Giuliani, Ron Paul doesn’t support the Iraq war OR the Patriot Act!

He has a fundamentally different message than you do. Why do you care how he delivers it?

]]> By: Brad Warbiany http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/03/ron-paul-flying-under-the-radar/#comment-24149 Brad Warbiany Wed, 04 Apr 2007 00:36:55 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/03/ron-paul-flying-under-the-radar/#comment-24149 Charles, Brian is a commenter, not a contributor, to this site. Nothing he says should have any bearing on "what sort of site" this is. You're more than welcome to take myself or any other contributor to task for our beliefs in the comments section, and more than welcome to debate Brian on his beliefs. But please understand that his beliefs as a commenter have no bearing on the "editorial" position of the site in general, as much as we have such an editorial position. Charles,

Brian is a commenter, not a contributor, to this site. Nothing he says should have any bearing on “what sort of site” this is.

You’re more than welcome to take myself or any other contributor to task for our beliefs in the comments section, and more than welcome to debate Brian on his beliefs. But please understand that his beliefs as a commenter have no bearing on the “editorial” position of the site in general, as much as we have such an editorial position.

]]> By: Eric Dondero http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/03/ron-paul-flying-under-the-radar/#comment-24144 Eric Dondero Wed, 04 Apr 2007 00:19:53 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/03/ron-paul-flying-under-the-radar/#comment-24144 Typically Geeky out of touch Libertarians here. It's not the message that matters: It's the deliver of the message and the messenger. And on that count, Ron Paul gets a Big Fat 'F'. He's so boring and fringe sounding. He needs to take a serious course on humor. Typically Geeky out of touch Libertarians here. It’s not the message that matters: It’s the deliver of the message and the messenger.

And on that count, Ron Paul gets a Big Fat ‘F’. He’s so boring and fringe sounding.

He needs to take a serious course on humor.

]]> By: Charles Bowen http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/03/ron-paul-flying-under-the-radar/#comment-24139 Charles Bowen Tue, 03 Apr 2007 23:11:31 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/03/ron-paul-flying-under-the-radar/#comment-24139 Brian appears to support Big Government Libertarianism (son of the French Revolution not Pat Henry I guess) where a strong central state will enforce abstract rights. Brian will you next wow us with your defense of NAFTA? What sort of site is this? Brian appears to support Big Government Libertarianism (son of the French Revolution not Pat Henry I guess) where a strong central state will enforce abstract rights.

Brian will you next wow us with your defense of NAFTA?

What sort of site is this?

]]> By: Brian Miller http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/03/ron-paul-flying-under-the-radar/#comment-24132 Brian Miller Tue, 03 Apr 2007 19:56:59 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/03/ron-paul-flying-under-the-radar/#comment-24132 Except that Ron Paul doesn't like bits of the Constitution that go against his personal beliefs. For instance, in 2004, he introduced a law that would have forbidden the Supreme Court from ruling against state laws that discriminate based on sexual orientation or religious belief. He introduced the legislation, which included calls eliminating Supreme Court rulings on state violations of privacy, in reaction to the earlier "Lawrence vs. Texas" ruling that invalidated "sodomy laws" banning sex between consenting adults as. . . a violation of the right to privacy. Ron Paul's just plain not libertarian, and no matter how much window-dressing is thrown up around him, in carefully prepared soundbites, his pro-high-tariff, anti-free-trade, anti-gay, pro-state-regulation-of-marriage record is there for everyone to see. He loves big government, and has made a career out of attacking some big government, while busily supporting a "unique and different" expansion of the role of government in our private and economic lives as a "libertarian." Give me a real libertarian. Please. Except that Ron Paul doesn’t like bits of the Constitution that go against his personal beliefs. For instance, in 2004, he introduced a law that would have forbidden the Supreme Court from ruling against state laws that discriminate based on sexual orientation or religious belief.

He introduced the legislation, which included calls eliminating Supreme Court rulings on state violations of privacy, in reaction to the earlier “Lawrence vs. Texas” ruling that invalidated “sodomy laws” banning sex between consenting adults as. . . a violation of the right to privacy.

Ron Paul’s just plain not libertarian, and no matter how much window-dressing is thrown up around him, in carefully prepared soundbites, his pro-high-tariff, anti-free-trade, anti-gay, pro-state-regulation-of-marriage record is there for everyone to see.

He loves big government, and has made a career out of attacking some big government, while busily supporting a “unique and different” expansion of the role of government in our private and economic lives as a “libertarian.”

Give me a real libertarian. Please.

]]> By: » Ron Paul: Flying Under The Radar http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/03/ron-paul-flying-under-the-radar/#comment-24121 » Ron Paul: Flying Under The Radar Tue, 03 Apr 2007 17:14:03 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/03/ron-paul-flying-under-the-radar/#comment-24121 [...] Nat Torkington wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerptRon Paul on MSNBC: [...] [...] Nat Torkington wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerptRon Paul on MSNBC: [...]

]]> By: uhm http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/03/ron-paul-flying-under-the-radar/#comment-24116 uhm Tue, 03 Apr 2007 15:05:44 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/03/ron-paul-flying-under-the-radar/#comment-24116 What a radical idea, following the Constitution! No one else has better ideas than he does! People attack him on war but it is Congress' responsibility to declare war. What a radical idea, following the Constitution! No one else has better ideas than he does! People attack him on war but it is Congress’ responsibility to declare war.

]]> By: Chris http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/03/ron-paul-flying-under-the-radar/#comment-24115 Chris Tue, 03 Apr 2007 14:46:01 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/03/ron-paul-flying-under-the-radar/#comment-24115 Ron Paul had a good interview on Maher's show, Bill had a very bad interview. His attempt at ambushing Ron Paul backfired big time. I looking forward to seeing Ron Paul debate at the Ronald Reagan Library. Ron Paul had a good interview on Maher’s show, Bill had a very bad interview. His attempt at ambushing Ron Paul backfired big time. I looking forward to seeing Ron Paul debate at the Ronald Reagan Library.

]]> By: Tom Gellhaus http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/03/ron-paul-flying-under-the-radar/#comment-24114 Tom Gellhaus Tue, 03 Apr 2007 14:44:51 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/03/ron-paul-flying-under-the-radar/#comment-24114 Rogel, I agree 100%. I will try to show this to friends, in the hope it will leave a better impression than the one they had from Real Time. And, this interview is from a "MSM" source, not exactly a sympathetic arena for us. The difference in objectivity and relevance of questions compared to Real Time is astonishing. Rogel, I agree 100%. I will try to show this to friends, in the hope it will leave a better impression than the one they had from Real Time.
And, this interview is from a “MSM” source, not exactly a sympathetic arena for us. The difference in objectivity and relevance of questions compared to Real Time is astonishing.

]]> By: Rogel http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/03/ron-paul-flying-under-the-radar/#comment-24113 Rogel Tue, 03 Apr 2007 14:31:45 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/03/ron-paul-flying-under-the-radar/#comment-24113 This is, by far, a better interview than the one he gave on Maher's show. This is, by far, a better interview than the one he gave on Maher’s show.

]]> By: TerryP http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/03/ron-paul-flying-under-the-radar/#comment-24109 TerryP Tue, 03 Apr 2007 13:52:47 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/03/ron-paul-flying-under-the-radar/#comment-24109 Hopefully we are listening to our next President. Good job Dr. Paul. Hopefully we are listening to our next President. Good job Dr. Paul.

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