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		<title>By: Ted</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/09/were-all-criminals-now/#comment-25050</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 06:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also:
I do not have any problems with private business or owners learning the language of those they deal with. That is their choice. I respect their right to do so or not do so as they wish. I was fine when a Pizza chain in my area started also accepting pesos, because of all the latino workers who went to Mexico to visit family, and came back with pesos. I thought it was a smart business decision for them.

But, I am pressed on your remark: 
&quot;Honestly, people will learn what they need to get by. If they can earn a living and support themselves without being able to understand me, more power to them.&quot;

That is fine, however, when the government has to bend itself to deal with people who refuse to learn any of the language, they are wasting resources that the government is forcing me to pay for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also:<br />
I do not have any problems with private business or owners learning the language of those they deal with. That is their choice. I respect their right to do so or not do so as they wish. I was fine when a Pizza chain in my area started also accepting pesos, because of all the latino workers who went to Mexico to visit family, and came back with pesos. I thought it was a smart business decision for them.</p>
<p>But, I am pressed on your remark:<br />
&#8220;Honestly, people will learn what they need to get by. If they can earn a living and support themselves without being able to understand me, more power to them.&#8221;</p>
<p>That is fine, however, when the government has to bend itself to deal with people who refuse to learn any of the language, they are wasting resources that the government is forcing me to pay for.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/09/were-all-criminals-now/#comment-25049</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 06:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I care because my tax dollars go into programs for translation in government. Police officers, emergency personnel, government workes all have to bow down to these other languages, and it is comming right out of my pocket.

Now, I said I believe they should learn. I have said nothing of making it mandatory for immigration. But I would not expect to move to another country and have them accomadate me. I have always chosen to pick up what language skills I can when I was living outside of the states. The Japan reference was listed, because I lived there for 4 years. Yes, I learned to speak enough Japanese to get by. But I should have no expectation of other people having to accomodate me when I am in their country.

Now, my views may change with proper persuaion. As you can read from my previous post, my views have changed over the years to be fine with immigration, legal or otherwise.

But show me where the value brought exceeds the amount stolen out of my pocket throught axes, to offer 300 different government lines and specialized workers just to talk to someone who did not want to bother to learn english. Please, do, and I will gladly reconsider my point of view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I care because my tax dollars go into programs for translation in government. Police officers, emergency personnel, government workes all have to bow down to these other languages, and it is comming right out of my pocket.</p>
<p>Now, I said I believe they should learn. I have said nothing of making it mandatory for immigration. But I would not expect to move to another country and have them accomadate me. I have always chosen to pick up what language skills I can when I was living outside of the states. The Japan reference was listed, because I lived there for 4 years. Yes, I learned to speak enough Japanese to get by. But I should have no expectation of other people having to accomodate me when I am in their country.</p>
<p>Now, my views may change with proper persuaion. As you can read from my previous post, my views have changed over the years to be fine with immigration, legal or otherwise.</p>
<p>But show me where the value brought exceeds the amount stolen out of my pocket throught axes, to offer 300 different government lines and specialized workers just to talk to someone who did not want to bother to learn english. Please, do, and I will gladly reconsider my point of view.</p>
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		<title>By: tarran</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/09/were-all-criminals-now/#comment-25041</link>
		<dc:creator>tarran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 04:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder what the ol&#039; Declaration of Indepenedence ahd to say on the subject:

&lt;blockquote&gt;He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Ted, why the heck do you care whether someone can speak English coming to the U.S. or not?  I have friends whose parents cannot speak a word of English (one whith Romanian parents, and one set whose parents only speak Korean).  Yet, they are productive people who run businesses and make their communities more prosperous.

Honestly, people will learn what they need to get by. If they can earn a living and support themselves without being able to understand me, more power to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder what the ol&#8217; Declaration of Indepenedence ahd to say on the subject:</p>
<blockquote><p>He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.</p></blockquote>
<p>Ted, why the heck do you care whether someone can speak English coming to the U.S. or not?  I have friends whose parents cannot speak a word of English (one whith Romanian parents, and one set whose parents only speak Korean).  Yet, they are productive people who run businesses and make their communities more prosperous.</p>
<p>Honestly, people will learn what they need to get by. If they can earn a living and support themselves without being able to understand me, more power to them.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/09/were-all-criminals-now/#comment-25031</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 04:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oneifbyland,

Can you name a single person in the US of A who has not broken a single law? I do not think I can. I&#039;ve broken several, sometimes without knowing they exist.

There are good laws. There are bad laws. I am fine with immigration. 

I used to say that I did not like Illegal Immigration, but that I was fine with Legal Immigration. I have since changed my mind a bit. It&#039;s actually not immigration, legal or otherwise that gets my dander up. It&#039;s the fact that someone is here illegally and benefiting from things like Welfare, and Unemployment, and the like. However, I realize that that is mostly my dislike of things like Welfare. I think the programs are broken, and a waste of tax dollars that were unfairly taken from me.

I do not feel that immigrants take my jobs. I am a highly skilled worker, but I have dug ditches before. And trust me; there is plenty of that work for anyone. Most people who do not have jobs do not have them because they are too proud to take day laborer positions.

So, feel free to come and immigrate. I think it should be easy. I do not mind cheap. I do think, however, that if you come to the country, you should learn to speak the language. I would not expect to move to Japan without learning Japanese.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oneifbyland,</p>
<p>Can you name a single person in the US of A who has not broken a single law? I do not think I can. I&#8217;ve broken several, sometimes without knowing they exist.</p>
<p>There are good laws. There are bad laws. I am fine with immigration. </p>
<p>I used to say that I did not like Illegal Immigration, but that I was fine with Legal Immigration. I have since changed my mind a bit. It&#8217;s actually not immigration, legal or otherwise that gets my dander up. It&#8217;s the fact that someone is here illegally and benefiting from things like Welfare, and Unemployment, and the like. However, I realize that that is mostly my dislike of things like Welfare. I think the programs are broken, and a waste of tax dollars that were unfairly taken from me.</p>
<p>I do not feel that immigrants take my jobs. I am a highly skilled worker, but I have dug ditches before. And trust me; there is plenty of that work for anyone. Most people who do not have jobs do not have them because they are too proud to take day laborer positions.</p>
<p>So, feel free to come and immigrate. I think it should be easy. I do not mind cheap. I do think, however, that if you come to the country, you should learn to speak the language. I would not expect to move to Japan without learning Japanese.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Warbiany</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad Warbiany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 01:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oneifbyland,

Did you even read the post?  Your comment is completely off-topic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oneifbyland,</p>
<p>Did you even read the post?  Your comment is completely off-topic.</p>
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		<title>By: OneifbyLand</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/09/were-all-criminals-now/#comment-25004</link>
		<dc:creator>OneifbyLand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 01:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It can no longer be denied unlike past immigration
to the US today Mexico is doing everything it can
to create a MEXICAN NATION within the borders of the USA.Aiding,abetting,urging and calling illegal immigrants to the USA heros. Those immigrants who
have played by the rules are being made fools of.
 Illegals from Mexico who want to subvert our laws should never be given citizenship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It can no longer be denied unlike past immigration<br />
to the US today Mexico is doing everything it can<br />
to create a MEXICAN NATION within the borders of the USA.Aiding,abetting,urging and calling illegal immigrants to the USA heros. Those immigrants who<br />
have played by the rules are being made fools of.<br />
 Illegals from Mexico who want to subvert our laws should never be given citizenship.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Selene</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/09/were-all-criminals-now/#comment-25003</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Selene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 00:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brad, you&#039;re a rational anarchist, whether you like it, or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad, you&#8217;re a rational anarchist, whether you like it, or not.</p>
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		<title>By: trumpetbob15</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/09/were-all-criminals-now/#comment-25001</link>
		<dc:creator>trumpetbob15</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 23:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As the illegal immigrant people have told us, there are no illegal immigrants, simply undocumented workers.  Thus, there are no illegal downloads, simply undocumented ones.  Is this an excuse?  Probably.  But what makes a copyright law so much more important than a law deciding who is a citizen?  They both are in the Constitution under the heading &quot;Powers of Congress.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the illegal immigrant people have told us, there are no illegal immigrants, simply undocumented workers.  Thus, there are no illegal downloads, simply undocumented ones.  Is this an excuse?  Probably.  But what makes a copyright law so much more important than a law deciding who is a citizen?  They both are in the Constitution under the heading &#8220;Powers of Congress.&#8221;</p>
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