Comments on: Don Imus And The First Amendment http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/10/don-imus-and-first-amendment/ Life. Liberty. Property. Defending individual freedom and liberty, one post at a time. Wed, 08 Feb 2012 17:04:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Mac http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/10/don-imus-and-first-amendment/#comment-25432 Mac Sat, 14 Apr 2007 15:25:12 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/10/don-imus-and-first-amendment/#comment-25432 The First Amendment in regard to employment doesn't apply in this case. But to bring a man to court on a civil action for monetary compensation to be decided by the "government" does seem to me that Imus is protected under the 1st Amendment. Further, how much worse is it when Rosie O'donnel spats off on ... er... well EVERYTHING, but let's just go with Mr. Trump...She remarked on his hair, and his way of life. Wasn't that all, that was said here too? Nappy headed, ho. If neither statement was true....then what's the big deal?!?!? If they are true...then he's just stating the obvious. His comments were about hair and typical college life! Should "white-folk" raise up in protest everytime some rapper spats off "CRACKER" "WHITEBREAD" "HO" "BITCH" "PURITAN" "TIGHT-ASS". It seems the race issue is a ONE-WAY street. The First Amendment in regard to employment doesn’t apply in this case. But to bring a man to court on a civil action for monetary compensation to be decided by the “government” does seem to me that Imus is protected under the 1st Amendment.

Further, how much worse is it when Rosie O’donnel spats off on … er… well EVERYTHING, but let’s just go with Mr. Trump…She remarked on his hair, and his way of life. Wasn’t that all, that was said here too? Nappy headed, ho. If neither statement was true….then what’s the big deal?!?!? If they are true…then he’s just stating the obvious.

His comments were about hair and typical college life! Should “white-folk” raise up in protest everytime some rapper spats off “CRACKER” “WHITEBREAD” “HO” “BITCH” “PURITAN” “TIGHT-ASS”.

It seems the race issue is a ONE-WAY street.

]]> By: Muser http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/10/don-imus-and-first-amendment/#comment-25376 Muser Fri, 13 Apr 2007 18:37:04 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/10/don-imus-and-first-amendment/#comment-25376 Does CBS fire on-air personalities (contracted / employed specifically to express their personal views) when they call the President (that's right - any President) names? I don't hear too much about consequences imposed for similar (or worse) expressions against our national leaders. I guess student athletes deserve better. I think this is sensationalism by the press, and the media love it because it sells soap. Consequently, I am one of William Walter's "Sheeple" for participating in this discussion. Thoughtfully, Muser Does CBS fire on-air personalities (contracted / employed specifically to express their personal views) when they call the President (that’s right – any President) names?

I don’t hear too much about consequences imposed for similar (or worse) expressions against our national leaders. I guess student athletes deserve better. I think this is sensationalism by the press, and the media love it because it sells soap. Consequently, I am one of William Walter’s “Sheeple” for participating in this discussion.

Thoughtfully,

Muser

]]> By: Adam Selene http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/10/don-imus-and-first-amendment/#comment-25345 Adam Selene Fri, 13 Apr 2007 04:53:18 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/10/don-imus-and-first-amendment/#comment-25345 Jeff: <blockquote>There is no free speech if CBS can fire a talk show host for expressing his views,no matter how outrageous those views might be.</blockquote> Nice try, but there are two problems with that. The first is that CBS is not preventing Imus from saying whatever he likes. The second is that CBS is not obligated to provide their private property as a platform for Imus to exercise his free speech. There is no Constitutional issue here. Imus was a dumb ass for saying what he said. The reaction by Sharpton and Jackson is just as bad. Worse, really, because they won't stand up and say that comments like that are plain wrong <i>regardless</i> of the ethnicity of the person making the comment. That's very hypocritical. It is perilously close to being racist behavior on their part. Jeff:

There is no free speech if CBS can fire a talk show host for expressing his views,no matter how outrageous those views might be.

Nice try, but there are two problems with that. The first is that CBS is not preventing Imus from saying whatever he likes. The second is that CBS is not obligated to provide their private property as a platform for Imus to exercise his free speech. There is no Constitutional issue here.

Imus was a dumb ass for saying what he said. The reaction by Sharpton and Jackson is just as bad. Worse, really, because they won’t stand up and say that comments like that are plain wrong regardless of the ethnicity of the person making the comment. That’s very hypocritical. It is perilously close to being racist behavior on their part.

]]> By: Don Imus http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/10/don-imus-and-first-amendment/#comment-25343 Don Imus Fri, 13 Apr 2007 03:42:54 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/10/don-imus-and-first-amendment/#comment-25343 Oh please give me another chance, CBS. If you don't bring me back, I'll be forced to sell hot dogs or drive a cab just like the other towelheads you see everyday. Oh please give me another chance, CBS. If you don’t bring me back, I’ll be forced to sell hot dogs or drive a cab just like the other towelheads you see everyday.

]]> By: Jeff http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/10/don-imus-and-first-amendment/#comment-25340 Jeff Fri, 13 Apr 2007 03:12:51 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/10/don-imus-and-first-amendment/#comment-25340 This is INDEED a First Amendment issue. Don Imus was paid by CBS to express his opinions. He was doing his job,doing exactly what his employers paid him to do. There is no free speech if CBS can fire a talk show host for expressing his views,no matter how outrageous those views might be. This is INDEED a First Amendment issue. Don Imus was paid by CBS to express his opinions. He was doing his job,doing exactly what his employers paid him to do.

There is no free speech if CBS can fire a talk show host for expressing his views,no matter how outrageous those views might be.

]]> By: Doug Mataconis http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/10/don-imus-and-first-amendment/#comment-25330 Doug Mataconis Thu, 12 Apr 2007 23:36:09 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/10/don-imus-and-first-amendment/#comment-25330 Patricia, That is highly unlikely. Most performer/celebrity contracts contain provisions that allow the employer to dismiss the performer for a variety of reasons. Patricia,

That is highly unlikely. Most performer/celebrity contracts contain provisions that allow the employer to dismiss the performer for a variety of reasons.

]]> By: Patricia http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/10/don-imus-and-first-amendment/#comment-25328 Patricia Thu, 12 Apr 2007 23:04:40 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/10/don-imus-and-first-amendment/#comment-25328 I have spoken with a Bureau Chief/Director at the FCC. Imus gets his "free speech" on two technicalities. Imus may sue his employers for breach of contract. Stay tuned! I have spoken with a Bureau Chief/Director at the FCC. Imus gets his “free speech” on two technicalities. Imus may sue his employers for breach of contract. Stay tuned!

]]> By: Brad Warbiany http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/10/don-imus-and-first-amendment/#comment-25324 Brad Warbiany Thu, 12 Apr 2007 22:21:20 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/10/don-imus-and-first-amendment/#comment-25324 Mark, Freedom of speech, outside of government interference, is a matter of property rights. If you come on my property and call my dogs ugly and my wife a bad cook, I'll throw your ass out. It doesn't matter to me if I've given you a job or not, I wouldn't hesitate to fire you if I had. You have every right to say whatever you want to say. But you have no right to force someone to keep you employed if you cross the line. Mark,

Freedom of speech, outside of government interference, is a matter of property rights. If you come on my property and call my dogs ugly and my wife a bad cook, I’ll throw your ass out. It doesn’t matter to me if I’ve given you a job or not, I wouldn’t hesitate to fire you if I had.

You have every right to say whatever you want to say. But you have no right to force someone to keep you employed if you cross the line.

]]> By: Mark http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/10/don-imus-and-first-amendment/#comment-25323 Mark Thu, 12 Apr 2007 22:08:02 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/10/don-imus-and-first-amendment/#comment-25323 The argument made is that a corporation is free to punish - and losing a job is not an insignificant punishment - someone for saying something. Thus, the fact that the Constitution, as noted, does not protect an individual from a corporation's judgment of what should and should not be said does not mean that the individual's freedom of speech is not being limited. It just means that freedom of speech doesn't really exist in a society where most people rely on corporations for employment, and where employment is necessary for shelter, food, medicine. The argument made is that a corporation is free to punish – and losing a job is not an insignificant punishment – someone for saying something. Thus, the fact that the Constitution, as noted, does not protect an individual from a corporation’s judgment of what should and should not be said does not mean that the individual’s freedom of speech is not being limited. It just means that freedom of speech doesn’t really exist in a society where most people rely on corporations for employment, and where employment is necessary for shelter, food, medicine.

]]> By: Richard http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/10/don-imus-and-first-amendment/#comment-25214 Richard Wed, 11 Apr 2007 12:05:13 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/10/don-imus-and-first-amendment/#comment-25214 Thank you Doug, I also thought it was a First Amendment issue. I agree with your answer. Thank you Doug, I also thought it was a First Amendment issue. I agree with your answer.

]]> By: Mullah Cimoc http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/10/don-imus-and-first-amendment/#comment-25180 Mullah Cimoc Wed, 11 Apr 2007 04:09:52 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/10/don-imus-and-first-amendment/#comment-25180 Mullah Cimoc say ameriki society not free now. this like a stalinism. tv show make woman the power position and beat down the man him so stupid. this for punish ameriki for iraq war. ameriki woman to boss the man, lesbian control government, this destroy all ameriki for not having the baby but kill abortion all the child. now the govt force him girl child take the shot for destroy reprodution system. make mandatory law. this only for beneift pharmacutical company. so sad ameriki destroyed complete for be obedient slave of zionist masters in tel aviv. stop1984now@yahoo.com Mullah Cimoc say ameriki society not free now. this like a stalinism. tv show make woman the power position and beat down the man him so stupid.

this for punish ameriki for iraq war. ameriki woman to boss the man, lesbian control government, this destroy all ameriki for not having the baby but kill abortion all the child.

now the govt force him girl child take the shot for destroy reprodution system. make mandatory law. this only for beneift pharmacutical company.

so sad ameriki destroyed complete for be obedient slave of zionist masters in tel aviv.

stop1984now@yahoo.com

]]> By: Evorgleb http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/10/don-imus-and-first-amendment/#comment-25141 Evorgleb Tue, 10 Apr 2007 18:08:14 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/10/don-imus-and-first-amendment/#comment-25141 Wow, the Imus thing is just crazy. I personally have mixed feelings about it. If any of you care to read it, one of our writers over at <a href="http://highbridnation.highbrid.com/?p=1723" rel="nofollow">Highbrid Nation</a> worked with Imus over at WFAN for several years and recently chimed in on the whole situation. He also reveals some details that the media is failing to report on in regards to the suspension Wow, the Imus thing is just crazy. I personally have mixed feelings about it. If any of you care to read it, one of our writers over at Highbrid Nation worked with Imus over at WFAN for several years and recently chimed in on the whole situation. He also reveals some details that the media is failing to report on in regards to the suspension

]]> By: Jerry Park http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/10/don-imus-and-first-amendment/#comment-25140 Jerry Park Tue, 10 Apr 2007 18:00:58 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/10/don-imus-and-first-amendment/#comment-25140 Precisely. Freedom from government prohibition does not mean freedom from consequences. All behaviors have consequences. Precisely. Freedom from government prohibition does not mean freedom from consequences. All behaviors have consequences.

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