In fact I call myself a Muscular Minarchist, and I strongly support the GWOT and the current mission in Iraq, if not always the political “leadership” shown in its execution.

I still support GWB as well; even given all his many screwups. I thought that in general Rumsfeld was doing a good job; of course in those areas where he was not, he was a specatcualar f’up.

So, wanna try again there Eric?

Now, where will I get my daily dose of comedy? :(

Joking aside, I honestly think he wanted to be banned. Now instead of a long litany or lost arguments he can claim that he is too hard-core for the Liberty Papers.

Shame really…

… then I grew up. ;)

Hey, are there any other Veterans here, or Active Duty?

I served for 11 years in the Army, including on the Iron Curtain during the Cold War and in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Iraq during Desert Shield/Storm. As a tank crewman. With combat service. I can swear with the best of ‘em, but see no reason to. I can brag about my military service as well, but see no reason to. I could make fun of you as a “Navy girlie man”, but see no reason to.

There are several other veterans who are contributors here. And an AF ROTC Cadet. You obviously did not bother reading our bio’s.

You can start apologizing and rescinding all of your remarks now.

Golly gee their Adam. That really proves how “tolerant” you are.

Why no tolerance for “Neal Boortzians,” or Larry Elder “Republitarians,” or other Pro-War on Islamo-Fascism Libertarians?

As it is all you mentioned were Leftwingers and Leftwing Libertarians.

You just proved your narrow-mindedness, and intolerance with those remarks and those very limited examples.

Did you all notice that he didn’t mention past tolerance for any Right-wing Libertarians?

It’d be something if say a Bruce Cohen, Tim or Jeannie Starr, Bob Hunt, Johhny Ringo, John Hospers, or some other Right-wing Pro-Military Libertarian were also here and were being tolerated.

But as it is, I’m the ONLY Right-wing Libertarian here.

Banning me will be hardcore proof that this website is totally Leftwing Libertarian and a complete America-hating site.

If Hunt, the Starrs, or some other Pro-Military Libts were here and they weren’t getting banned for bad language or over-the-top ad himimen attacks, that’d be something. But notice they are not here. I’m the only Right-wing Libertarian.

And surprise, surprise, I’m getting banned.

No, you all banning me has everything to do with the fact that I’m a Military Veteran, and as we all know Vets and Active Duty make Girly-men Ivorty Tower types who “loathe the Military” very uncomfortable.

They don’t like our forms of speech. They don’t like our manly ways. And they most especially don’t like the fact that chics really do dig a man in the uniforme, and we Military guys always get the girl.

So, the Geeky non-serving guys get extremely jealous. And the best way for them to lash out and attempt to put themselves in a higher position, is to bash the Military, Military values, Military-speak, and most especially Military guys.

That’s what’s at work here.

If you’re Pro-Military, libertarian geeks are extremely uncomfortable with you. It feeds right into their deep down guilt about having never served in the Military themselves.

The way to prove their superiority to themselves and most especially to females is to “bring the Military down” and most especially bash Military guys, and everything the Military does.

So, go right ahead. Ban the only Veteran here at Liberty Papers.

It’d be the height of irony, if I, the only Vet here at Liberty Papers, gets banned and censored.

The only guy here to have actually fought for his country, gets shitcanned at “Liberty Papers” by a bunch of Dweeby Academic Girly men who never lifted a finger to serve their country, and never even bothered to express support for those of us who have.

(If any of the main guys here — Adam Selene, other Eric, Mataconis, Ted, i.e. is a Veteran, I humbly stand corrected.)

I’m too much of a Real Guy for you huh?

You and your Co-horts prove your hatred for the Military and for Veterans like me, by banning me from your Forum, and for your “sensitive” ears not able to handle Military talk.

The Sub-Committee report from Congress on OKC came out last December 24. (Ironically the day before Christmas). It got scant news coverage. Certainly the libertarian media completely ignored it.

The Committee concluded in the strongest terms imaginable, that the FBI completely flubbed the investigation and did not follow up on leads, ESPECIALLY LEADS POINTING TO MIDDLE EASTERN TERRORISTS CONNECTIONS TO TERRY NICHOLS.

The Report specifically pointed out the Jayna Davis’s investigative report as the local CBS News reporter on the scene were not looked into sufficiently. Davis, in her 2003 book THE THIRD TERRORIST, and endorsed by former CIA Chief James Woolsey, documented the extensive connections of the OKC bombing to Muslim Terrorists, and most specifically Iraqi Intelligence.

But you see, that doesn’t quite fit the Anti-War Libertarian template, which makes excuses for Saddam and tries to make the case that “Saddam wasn’t such a bad guy.”

So, Anti-War Libertarians can’t even mention any Middle Eastern connections to OKC, and most certainly NOT any connections to the Iraqis. That would just be more justification for the War in Iraq.

So, while you see every Libertarian in the world, like Carol Moore and her followers, going Apeshit over Waco, when it comes to the OKC bombing, there’s near complete silence from Anti-War Libertarians and the libertarian media.

This site was previously bankrolled by Eric, and is now bankrolled by me. Neither I, nor any of my co-bloggers, receive any compensation for what we do here. To this point, we’ve even stayed away from selling ads or anything like that, because our bandwidth budget hasn’t grown to the point where it’s necessary yet.

You can make all the unfounded allegations you want, but I’ll tell you flat out that they are just that: completely and totally without merit whatsoever.

If you do get banned, it will not be because of your religion or your politics, it will be because you litter your posts with ad hominem attacks and over-the-top foul language. I’ve asked you privately to cut that crap out, and if I see it once more, you’re gone. This has gone on long enough. Grow up and act like an adult, or find another place to spew your venom.

A ban, as far as I can tell, was not considered for your political ideology, your race, your religion, or anything else. It was suggested due to personal attacks you made to other people, which had nothing to do with the issues being debated.

Heck, no one even complained when you Godwinned the argument.

As long as you can conduct your arguments in a rational manner, meaning no name calling, no attacks, then I do not think there is a problem.

I’ve seen several comments which disagreed with contributors here, and each one has been left on, sometimes responded to, sometimes not. I’ve never seen someone here remove a post because it made them look foolish, either. That is not fascist behavior. Fascist behavior would silnce any opposition. Your oposition is plain to see throughout this thread. Your vulgar language is also free to be seen. You attacks are free to be seen.

It is quite amusing though, that so-called libertarians who claim to be in favor of open dialalogues can be such Pruditarians with those whose views they disagree with.

And I would add, it’s a bit frightening to me the consistency of the fact that all y’all here, defacto support Islamo-Fascism, and are now crying to ban me from this Forum.

Leads one to believe that maybe, just maybe you all are on the Islamo-Fascist payroll.

And there’s no implication there. I mean to be quite blunt and straightforward with that accusation.

I’ve long suspected Lew Rockwell, as receiving funding from “questionable” sources.

Perhaps the long arm of Islamo-Fascism has reached here, to “Liberty Papers,” as well.

Ahh, yes, how convenient. Ban the one guy here who opposes the Islamo-Fascist. Chuck the Jewish guy. Yeah Baby. Silence the enemies of Islamo-Fascism.

[Editor's note: this comment was caught by our spam filter. Now that we've seen it, it is being released as a comment. This is the last time that Eric Dondero's comments will be allowed to stand unedited when he makes direct, personal attacks on anyone. However, I think this comment is very instructive in the nature of a so-called "mainstream libertarian".

To make sure that it is very clear to Dondero, this site receives no funding from anyone. Make any accusation you like, our source of funding is our own pockets and nothing else. We could care less what your ethnicity or religion is, you are the first one to bring it up. Not one person who contributes to this blog believes in multi-culturalism, likes Islamic extremists or believes that the USA should not fight Islamo-Fascism. We simply disagree with you on tactics. Which Adam pointed out to you time and again, and you refuse to listen to. If you continue this, we will have to ban you. We won't like it, but your personal, direct attacks are over the top. -- Eric]