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		<title>By: Kirk</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/14/putin-proves-opponents-point/#comment-25590</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 06:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, looks like I won this debate.</description>
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		<title>By: Kirk</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/14/putin-proves-opponents-point/#comment-25488</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2007 00:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Brad:&lt;/b&gt; Why are you calling me names? Let&#039;s try to be civilized in our debate please.

&lt;b&gt;Rude Liberal:&lt;/b&gt; All I&#039;m going to say - because I don&#039;t want to further upset Brad, he seems enraged - is that I back up my statements with reliable sources. I have yet to see you back up any of your statements.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Brad:</b> Why are you calling me names? Let&#8217;s try to be civilized in our debate please.</p>
<p><b>Rude Liberal:</b> All I&#8217;m going to say &#8211; because I don&#8217;t want to further upset Brad, he seems enraged &#8211; is that I back up my statements with reliable sources. I have yet to see you back up any of your statements.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk's mother</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/14/putin-proves-opponents-point/#comment-25486</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirk's mother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2007 00:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry Brad. I cant help myself. Trolls are so sensitive. This is the last one, then I am going back to my northeastern &quot;Islamist&quot; education.

You know what else is against UN resolutions? 
TORTURE.

Why wouldnt Fox News tell us about these alleged laboratories if they were found?
Smells like feed the retard to me. 

P.S.: Who said anything about WMDs? 

Turn off the Fox News and try to get a different perspective every once in a while. It might help. 

Patriotism doesnt have to mean hatred of everyone who doesn&#039;t love Mel Gibson. It can mean loving your country and the values it was founded on. 

How did you survive in Chicago? Oh thats right, you probably stuck to some other anonymous form of babbling nonsensical conservative extremist garbage. 

Brad - again I apologize. I wont shit on your article anymore by getting caught up in baiting trolls. 

Thanks for the good input about whats going on in Russia. Keep up the good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry Brad. I cant help myself. Trolls are so sensitive. This is the last one, then I am going back to my northeastern &#8220;Islamist&#8221; education.</p>
<p>You know what else is against UN resolutions?<br />
TORTURE.</p>
<p>Why wouldnt Fox News tell us about these alleged laboratories if they were found?<br />
Smells like feed the retard to me. </p>
<p>P.S.: Who said anything about WMDs? </p>
<p>Turn off the Fox News and try to get a different perspective every once in a while. It might help. </p>
<p>Patriotism doesnt have to mean hatred of everyone who doesn&#8217;t love Mel Gibson. It can mean loving your country and the values it was founded on. </p>
<p>How did you survive in Chicago? Oh thats right, you probably stuck to some other anonymous form of babbling nonsensical conservative extremist garbage. </p>
<p>Brad &#8211; again I apologize. I wont shit on your article anymore by getting caught up in baiting trolls. </p>
<p>Thanks for the good input about whats going on in Russia. Keep up the good work.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/14/putin-proves-opponents-point/#comment-25481</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2007 23:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Rude Liberal:&lt;/b&gt; Alaka? Nice job trying to infiltrate America, but you Islamists stand out like a sore thumb. Not to mention, that only some kind of heathen could actually believe that someone could metamorphize from a pure bred American patriot into an Asian terrorist.

Don&#039;t try to post your &quot;no weapons of mass destruction&quot; propaganda here. Gee, who am I going to believe? Some anonymous poster or the president of the United States?

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.whitehouse.gov/g8/interview5.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Q: But, still, those countries who didn&#039;t support the Iraqi Freedom operation use the same argument, weapons of mass destruction haven&#039;t been found. So what argument will you use now to justify this war?

THE PRESIDENT: &lt;b&gt;We found the weapons of mass destruction.&lt;/b&gt; We found biological laboratories. You remember when Colin Powell stood up in front of the world, and he said, Iraq has got laboratories, mobile labs to build biological weapons. They&#039;re illegal. They&#039;re against the United Nations resolutions, and we&#039;ve so far discovered two. And we&#039;ll find more weapons as time goes on. But for those who say we haven&#039;t found the banned manufacturing devices or banned weapons, they&#039;re wrong, &lt;b&gt;we found them.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

Your other statements are completely incoherent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Rude Liberal:</b> Alaka? Nice job trying to infiltrate America, but you Islamists stand out like a sore thumb. Not to mention, that only some kind of heathen could actually believe that someone could metamorphize from a pure bred American patriot into an Asian terrorist.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t try to post your &#8220;no weapons of mass destruction&#8221; propaganda here. Gee, who am I going to believe? Some anonymous poster or the president of the United States?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/g8/interview5.html" rel="nofollow">Q: But, still, those countries who didn&#8217;t support the Iraqi Freedom operation use the same argument, weapons of mass destruction haven&#8217;t been found. So what argument will you use now to justify this war?</p>
<p>THE PRESIDENT: <b>We found the weapons of mass destruction.</b> We found biological laboratories. You remember when Colin Powell stood up in front of the world, and he said, Iraq has got laboratories, mobile labs to build biological weapons. They&#8217;re illegal. They&#8217;re against the United Nations resolutions, and we&#8217;ve so far discovered two. And we&#8217;ll find more weapons as time goes on. But for those who say we haven&#8217;t found the banned manufacturing devices or banned weapons, they&#8217;re wrong, <b>we found them.</b></a></p>
<p>Your other statements are completely incoherent.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Warbiany</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/14/putin-proves-opponents-point/#comment-25480</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Warbiany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2007 23:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Folks,

Click over to Kirk&#039;s blog...  It&#039;s linked in his name.  That will quickly help you understand how serious he takes the game that he&#039;s playing.

Or, to put it more succinctly: Don&#039;t feed trolls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Folks,</p>
<p>Click over to Kirk&#8217;s blog&#8230;  It&#8217;s linked in his name.  That will quickly help you understand how serious he takes the game that he&#8217;s playing.</p>
<p>Or, to put it more succinctly: Don&#8217;t feed trolls.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk's mother</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/14/putin-proves-opponents-point/#comment-25476</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirk's mother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2007 23:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It would sure be nice if your side could show the same kind of compromise and diplomacy my side makes on a daily basis.&quot;

BY compromise do mean fabricating intelligence and sacrificing the document which has enabled our country to enjoy the freedoms we have so far?

or do you mean torturing brown people and then letting them go because Australia asks us to (but only on the condition they promise not to sue us)?

Or you must mean calling potential D canditates &quot;faggots&quot;?

Or you mean degrading the homosexual lifestyle that many of your own party practices daily?

I wish my &quot;side&quot; could practice such elite compromise and diplomacy as well.

Call your mother</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It would sure be nice if your side could show the same kind of compromise and diplomacy my side makes on a daily basis.&#8221;</p>
<p>BY compromise do mean fabricating intelligence and sacrificing the document which has enabled our country to enjoy the freedoms we have so far?</p>
<p>or do you mean torturing brown people and then letting them go because Australia asks us to (but only on the condition they promise not to sue us)?</p>
<p>Or you must mean calling potential D canditates &#8220;faggots&#8221;?</p>
<p>Or you mean degrading the homosexual lifestyle that many of your own party practices daily?</p>
<p>I wish my &#8220;side&#8221; could practice such elite compromise and diplomacy as well.</p>
<p>Call your mother</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk's mother</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/14/putin-proves-opponents-point/#comment-25475</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirk's mother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2007 23:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, Brad had a nice post. More matter of factly than anything else. As far as I am concerned there is nothing wrong with being grateful to live in the country and suggesting a tax based way of improving it even more. 

Kirk on the other hand hasnt said anything intelligent yet. Seems like the anonymity of internet boosting is giving him a little too much arrogance. I am sure this has something to do with his inferiority complex as well. 
- Nothing was said about the Soviet Union in Brad&#039;s post. Think before you type. Maybe even phone a friend if you need to. 

- As for your Alaka patriot camps idea, I think you need to visit those japanse camps and find out what really happened in the midst of WWII instead of talking out of your FOX News media warped little mind. What really happened is that the US Justice Dept. saw General DeWitt&#039;s truthful memo about the Japanese concern and told him to rewrite it with their conclusions which were totally fabricated. The Japanese, including 70,000 US CITIZENS (could be you one day) were forced to liquidate all their assets and go live somewhere in the desert for years because of the media induced fear hype that told us all Japanese were not loyal. Actually, the US, in the 1980s apologized for these brutalities and paid all survivors reparations for their discriminatory and unconstitutional actions. 

- So yes, Kirk - you have no idea what you are talking about. Maybe you should go back to school and drop that close minded attitude. 

It might make you a happier person as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, Brad had a nice post. More matter of factly than anything else. As far as I am concerned there is nothing wrong with being grateful to live in the country and suggesting a tax based way of improving it even more. </p>
<p>Kirk on the other hand hasnt said anything intelligent yet. Seems like the anonymity of internet boosting is giving him a little too much arrogance. I am sure this has something to do with his inferiority complex as well.<br />
- Nothing was said about the Soviet Union in Brad&#8217;s post. Think before you type. Maybe even phone a friend if you need to. </p>
<p>- As for your Alaka patriot camps idea, I think you need to visit those japanse camps and find out what really happened in the midst of WWII instead of talking out of your FOX News media warped little mind. What really happened is that the US Justice Dept. saw General DeWitt&#8217;s truthful memo about the Japanese concern and told him to rewrite it with their conclusions which were totally fabricated. The Japanese, including 70,000 US CITIZENS (could be you one day) were forced to liquidate all their assets and go live somewhere in the desert for years because of the media induced fear hype that told us all Japanese were not loyal. Actually, the US, in the 1980s apologized for these brutalities and paid all survivors reparations for their discriminatory and unconstitutional actions. </p>
<p>- So yes, Kirk &#8211; you have no idea what you are talking about. Maybe you should go back to school and drop that close minded attitude. </p>
<p>It might make you a happier person as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/14/putin-proves-opponents-point/#comment-25474</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2007 22:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Steven:&lt;/b&gt; I usually don&#039;t like to link to communist publications, but since I know these are the only people you trust: &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moonbat&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moonbat&lt;/a&gt;

It would sure be nice if your side could show the same kind of compromise and diplomacy my side makes on a daily basis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Steven:</b> I usually don&#8217;t like to link to communist publications, but since I know these are the only people you trust: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moonbat" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moonbat</a></p>
<p>It would sure be nice if your side could show the same kind of compromise and diplomacy my side makes on a daily basis.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/14/putin-proves-opponents-point/#comment-25473</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2007 22:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kirk, I&#039;ll respond to you if you can tell me exactly what a stark raving moonbat is.  They didn&#039;t teach me that in Minnesota.  If you cannot, I think my point (of which I&#039;ve still had only one) is sufficiently made.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kirk, I&#8217;ll respond to you if you can tell me exactly what a stark raving moonbat is.  They didn&#8217;t teach me that in Minnesota.  If you cannot, I think my point (of which I&#8217;ve still had only one) is sufficiently made.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/14/putin-proves-opponents-point/#comment-25472</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2007 22:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Brad:&lt;/b&gt; Indeed, the liberal vitriol spewed forth in the comments section of my blog is at least useful for a good chuckle.

As to my ISP: That is simple economics. You go with the most cost effective carrier even if that means sacrificing some speed because of the distance to the DSLAM.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Brad:</b> Indeed, the liberal vitriol spewed forth in the comments section of my blog is at least useful for a good chuckle.</p>
<p>As to my ISP: That is simple economics. You go with the most cost effective carrier even if that means sacrificing some speed because of the distance to the DSLAM.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/14/putin-proves-opponents-point/#comment-25471</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2007 22:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Steven:&lt;/b&gt; No Steven, I don&#039;t like to play elitist games like the one you propose. That&#039;s why I don&#039;t wave my PhD in everyone&#039;s face like you have done.

If you are indeed the economist that you claim to be, then you must realize that one uses indicators to draw conclusions about various situations. Therefore, I have not made &quot;assumptions&quot; about you. Rather, I have analyzed what you have written and have come to an educated conclusion that you are a stark raving moonbat.

I am unsure what &quot;broad generalizations&quot; I have made. Perhaps you can enlighten me. Or are you the one making broad generalizations about me?

My message is simple: Don&#039;t denigrate our troops.

This seems like a simple message to me. Why don&#039;t you get it?

As for your last comment: You are using old news to try and extrapolate a ridiculous conclusion. Everyone else has moved on. Why are you still stuck in the past?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Steven:</b> No Steven, I don&#8217;t like to play elitist games like the one you propose. That&#8217;s why I don&#8217;t wave my PhD in everyone&#8217;s face like you have done.</p>
<p>If you are indeed the economist that you claim to be, then you must realize that one uses indicators to draw conclusions about various situations. Therefore, I have not made &#8220;assumptions&#8221; about you. Rather, I have analyzed what you have written and have come to an educated conclusion that you are a stark raving moonbat.</p>
<p>I am unsure what &#8220;broad generalizations&#8221; I have made. Perhaps you can enlighten me. Or are you the one making broad generalizations about me?</p>
<p>My message is simple: Don&#8217;t denigrate our troops.</p>
<p>This seems like a simple message to me. Why don&#8217;t you get it?</p>
<p>As for your last comment: You are using old news to try and extrapolate a ridiculous conclusion. Everyone else has moved on. Why are you still stuck in the past?</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Warbiany</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/14/putin-proves-opponents-point/#comment-25470</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Warbiany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2007 22:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kirk,

I clicked over to your blog...  Funny stuff.  Interesting work on your photo, I don&#039;t think many people quite get that joke...

Just one question: If you&#039;re in Corpus Christi, why is your ISP in Irvine, CA?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kirk,</p>
<p>I clicked over to your blog&#8230;  Funny stuff.  Interesting work on your photo, I don&#8217;t think many people quite get that joke&#8230;</p>
<p>Just one question: If you&#8217;re in Corpus Christi, why is your ISP in Irvine, CA?</p>
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		<title>By: Steven</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/14/putin-proves-opponents-point/#comment-25468</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2007 22:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kirk, I doubt you want to play the &quot;who&#039;s more educated game,&quot; unless you have a PhD in economics--mine&#039;s from Minnesota.

Also note that I made no assumptions about you, but you seem to have assumed plenty about me.  I don&#039;t know many careful thinkers who are so blase with facts.  My statements were carefully considered and modestly rigorous, so I&#039;m surprised that you can so quickly and easily paint political stripes.

Further, you have quite the penchant, it seems, for making very broad generalizations.  This again does not live up to your supposed U Chicago training.  Really, it&#039;s rather hard to take anyone who communicates in such a way.

So that&#039;s the point I want to make to you.  Your exposition is inconsistent with what I think your message is.  (That is, your first comment has a clear logical inconsistency that I pointed out.)  I&#039;d implore you to step back and think more carefully of the implications to what you say.

(Here&#039;s an example: you question Mr. Warbiany&#039;s patriotism in your first commment.  In your rebuke of my first comment, you state &quot;only liberal traitors question someone elseâ€™s patriotism.&quot;  Are we to believe that you are implying that you yourself are a &quot;liberal traitor?&quot;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kirk, I doubt you want to play the &#8220;who&#8217;s more educated game,&#8221; unless you have a PhD in economics&#8211;mine&#8217;s from Minnesota.</p>
<p>Also note that I made no assumptions about you, but you seem to have assumed plenty about me.  I don&#8217;t know many careful thinkers who are so blase with facts.  My statements were carefully considered and modestly rigorous, so I&#8217;m surprised that you can so quickly and easily paint political stripes.</p>
<p>Further, you have quite the penchant, it seems, for making very broad generalizations.  This again does not live up to your supposed U Chicago training.  Really, it&#8217;s rather hard to take anyone who communicates in such a way.</p>
<p>So that&#8217;s the point I want to make to you.  Your exposition is inconsistent with what I think your message is.  (That is, your first comment has a clear logical inconsistency that I pointed out.)  I&#8217;d implore you to step back and think more carefully of the implications to what you say.</p>
<p>(Here&#8217;s an example: you question Mr. Warbiany&#8217;s patriotism in your first commment.  In your rebuke of my first comment, you state &#8220;only liberal traitors question someone elseâ€™s patriotism.&#8221;  Are we to believe that you are implying that you yourself are a &#8220;liberal traitor?&#8221;)</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/14/putin-proves-opponents-point/#comment-25466</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2007 21:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Steven:&lt;/b&gt; You are hardly one to teach me anything about geopolitics. My degree from the University of Chicago was in economics; which is very tightly integrated with world affairs, in case you are unfamiliar.

As far as camps, your hero FDR thought they were a good way to teach Japanese Americans how to love and respect their country. So, why the hypocrisy?

Also, only liberal traitors question someone else&#039;s patriotism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Steven:</b> You are hardly one to teach me anything about geopolitics. My degree from the University of Chicago was in economics; which is very tightly integrated with world affairs, in case you are unfamiliar.</p>
<p>As far as camps, your hero FDR thought they were a good way to teach Japanese Americans how to love and respect their country. So, why the hypocrisy?</p>
<p>Also, only liberal traitors question someone else&#8217;s patriotism.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2007 21:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brad is right. Only the lunatic fringe on the left think that rich people pay any taxes with our current system. This is exactly why successful patriots like Ross Perot advocate a flat tax system. Tax fairness for the middle class and poor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad is right. Only the lunatic fringe on the left think that rich people pay any taxes with our current system. This is exactly why successful patriots like Ross Perot advocate a flat tax system. Tax fairness for the middle class and poor.</p>
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