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	<title>Comments on: Rudy Giuliani Sells Out On Civil Unions</title>
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		<title>By: AT QB</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/27/rudy-giuliani-sells-out-on-civil-unions/#comment-26314</link>
		<dc:creator>AT QB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 23:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I&#039;d feel more comfortable making a determination if I knew the language of the NY bill vs. what the NH bill does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I&#8217;d feel more comfortable making a determination if I knew the language of the NY bill vs. what the NH bill does.</p>
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		<title>By: AT QB</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/27/rudy-giuliani-sells-out-on-civil-unions/#comment-26313</link>
		<dc:creator>AT QB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 23:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1998:  Mr. Giuliani signed into law a domestic partnership bill that a gay rights group, the Empire State Pride Agenda.

2004:  &quot;So now you have a civil partnership, domestic partnership, civil union, whatever you want to call it, and that takes care of the imbalance, the discrimination, which we shouldnâ€™t have.â€ 

Now:  &quot;Domestic partnerships are the appropriate way to ensure that people are treated fairly.&quot;


IOW, he&#039;s still good with what he deems &quot;Domestic Partnership&quot;.  Seems like he simply wants to simply stop short of calling it &quot;marriage&quot; and while we can attack him on silly semantics, I don&#039;t see how he&#039;s been inconsistent.  

I&#039;ll keep an eye on it, but this is a non-story as of now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1998:  Mr. Giuliani signed into law a domestic partnership bill that a gay rights group, the Empire State Pride Agenda.</p>
<p>2004:  &#8220;So now you have a civil partnership, domestic partnership, civil union, whatever you want to call it, and that takes care of the imbalance, the discrimination, which we shouldnâ€™t have.â€ </p>
<p>Now:  &#8220;Domestic partnerships are the appropriate way to ensure that people are treated fairly.&#8221;</p>
<p>IOW, he&#8217;s still good with what he deems &#8220;Domestic Partnership&#8221;.  Seems like he simply wants to simply stop short of calling it &#8220;marriage&#8221; and while we can attack him on silly semantics, I don&#8217;t see how he&#8217;s been inconsistent.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll keep an eye on it, but this is a non-story as of now.</p>
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		<title>By: Wes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 21:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s flip-floping at its best. He&#039;s said that he supported domestic partnerships and civil unions, and that he supported states that called it either because they are the same thing to him. 

Apparently, it all changed in recent months since he&#039;s going after NH&#039;s for their support of civil unions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s flip-floping at its best. He&#8217;s said that he supported domestic partnerships and civil unions, and that he supported states that called it either because they are the same thing to him. </p>
<p>Apparently, it all changed in recent months since he&#8217;s going after NH&#8217;s for their support of civil unions.</p>
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		<title>By: AT QB</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/27/rudy-giuliani-sells-out-on-civil-unions/#comment-26299</link>
		<dc:creator>AT QB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 17:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ll have to explain further.

Rudy doesn&#039;t speak to the issue of Federalism in the first quote.  In the second one, he speaks to it and makes it clear that he opposes the NH law because they recognize CI&#039;s from other states.

Really...I&#039;m not sure why he cares that NH recognizes other CI&#039;s, but it&#039;s not obvious to me that it&#039;s a flip-flop without more information.  You may have a case of Rudy the Mayor would want civil unions available for his constituancy and even favors them (as long as they&#039;re not equiv. to &quot;marriage&quot;), but Rudy the President will defer to states.  That&#039;s not an inconsistent position.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ll have to explain further.</p>
<p>Rudy doesn&#8217;t speak to the issue of Federalism in the first quote.  In the second one, he speaks to it and makes it clear that he opposes the NH law because they recognize CI&#8217;s from other states.</p>
<p>Really&#8230;I&#8217;m not sure why he cares that NH recognizes other CI&#8217;s, but it&#8217;s not obvious to me that it&#8217;s a flip-flop without more information.  You may have a case of Rudy the Mayor would want civil unions available for his constituancy and even favors them (as long as they&#8217;re not equiv. to &#8220;marriage&#8221;), but Rudy the President will defer to states.  That&#8217;s not an inconsistent position.</p>
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