Comments on: GOP Debate Liveblogging and Instant Commentary (5/15/2007)

By: Alex Hammer

Alex Hammer — Wed, 16 May 2007 17:11:52 +0000

By: Iconoclast421

Iconoclast421 — Wed, 16 May 2007 13:17:30 +0000

Chris you dont know what you’re talking about. The idiots on Fox News jerk each other off with baseless statements about how Ron Paul “blames america” because he states facts. That’s all he does is state facts. And Ghouliani responded, after the debate, by saying he didnt even listen. And that just about sums it up. Whether you like it or not, Ron Paul is the only hope republicans have if they dont want to get stuck with another president who doesnt listen. So, just put your hands over your ears and say bla bla bla, but dont pretend like Ron Paul’s been descredited by doing that. Dispute his facts. Not the “he blames america” straw man. What you’re doing is so pathetic and beyond contempt, and I’m sure Hillary is thanking people like you.

By: Andrea

Andrea — Wed, 16 May 2007 13:09:01 +0000

I thought Paul did ok, and the recap of the event doesn’t read as harsh as it played out. It was a shame that the only questions that Paul got were about the war. I’m interested in him, but I’d like to hear his words about issues like amnesty and health care.

I mean, he’s an MD. He should have a pretty sound opinion about health care options.

By: Below The Beltway » Blog Archive » Watching The Debate So You Don’t Have To

Wed, 16 May 2007 11:45:45 +0000

[...] over at the The Liberty Papers, Kevin was liveblogging as well. [...]

By: Chris

Chris — Wed, 16 May 2007 07:23:23 +0000

Ahh yes, the eminently mockable Eric Dondero…Oh, I shouldn’t have mentioned his name, it may summon him from the depths…

By: Kaligula

Kaligula — Wed, 16 May 2007 07:08:52 +0000

Chris:

Yeah, the main contributors to this site have been skeptical of Rudy–and for good reason–but there have been posters who have been trying to make the case for Rudy as a libertarian.

By: Chris

Chris — Wed, 16 May 2007 06:47:08 +0000

I don’t think anyone of the libertypapers contributors is a supporter of Rudy.

Rudy is, was, and will be a prosecuting attorney. He approaches all problems from the perspective of an adversarial authoritarian.

That perspective is anathema to liberty.

By: uhm

uhm — Wed, 16 May 2007 06:46:45 +0000

He defended his argument well against Sean Hannity.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEZO7MPxJIs

It is nice for people to have a choice because we are at a crossroads. If the American people decide not to listen to Ron Paul then they have made their decision, everything else is details.

Time for a sort of Dondero moment:
The War is a failure it is time for Plan B: The Ron Paul Plan or Plan C: The Hitler Plan. I’m hoping for no more politically correct childish games under Plan A: The wussy do everything half-assed, accomplishing nothing plan. No one will advocate Plan C, but if we want to wipe out Islamo-Fascist then it would do it all right. Plan B would result in Congress declaring war and having to take responsibility for their vote. We can go blow up whoever if Ron Paul is president if Congress declares war.

By: Kaligula

Kaligula — Wed, 16 May 2007 06:26:25 +0000

Let’s be clear here. The GOP establishment read last rites over the libertarian wing of the party last night.

There’s no media conspiracy against Paul, but if you don’t think Giuliani wasn’t lying in wait in pre-meditated anticipation to pounce on Paul to re-establish focus on his 9-11 credentials as opposed to his flip-flopping abortion stance, you’re not cyncial enough.

Ron Paul is not part of the Rosie O’Donnell wing of the looney left, but the moderator put words in Paul’s mouth, saying, “are you blaming america for 9-11,” at which point rudy jumped in with his pre-meditated indignation.

Frankly, I never quie understood Rudy’s terrorism credentials. This was the man who put the anti-terrorism unit in the World Trade center–which was why he was wandering aimlessly about in the streets on 9-11–and promoted his corrupt buddy for the head of homeland security.

One thing for sure, rudy is no libertarian and freerepublic.com is a more appropriate forum for his advocacy rather than the liberty papers.

By: Kevin

Kevin — Wed, 16 May 2007 06:07:43 +0000

Chris,

Honestly, I donâ€™t think we should even be talking about Paul at this point. If he ever had a chance (he didnâ€™t), heâ€™s ended it now; and permanently and publicly discredited every thing he says ever again.

I bring up Paul because the commenters bring him up. I agree with you, he's irrelevant in the big picture. Also, he's not only discredited himself, he's discredited libertarian leaners everywhere with his kooky remarks.

By: Chris

Chris — Wed, 16 May 2007 05:43:53 +0000

Honestly, I don’t think we should even be talking about Paul at this point.

If he ever had a chance (he didn’t), he’s ended it now; and permanently and publicly discredited every thing he says ever again.

By: TerryP

TerryP — Wed, 16 May 2007 05:38:36 +0000

Kevin

I don’t buy into any conspiracy either about Ron Paul. I just think previously they pretty much ignored him. After the last debate, however, I believe that they started to get a little more serious about questioning him this time around.

I agree that he will get roasted and somewhat deservedly so for his answer about 9/11.

By: TerryP

TerryP — Wed, 16 May 2007 05:31:43 +0000

If I had to choose one person that came out of this better than going into it, it would be Mr. Huckabee. He had a couple of good one-liners and he didn’t make any bad gaffes like Dr. Paul.

By: Kevin

Kevin — Wed, 16 May 2007 05:29:26 +0000

TerryP,

Actually I think the media/commentators actually by asking him some very pointed questions show that they were a little scared that he did so well last time and what that could mean if he did real well again this time.

I don't buy into the grand conspiracy against Ron Paul. I believe he was being asked the questions he was because the war is the issue that he's trying to separate himself with. Paul's answer was just plain loony. He will be roasted and deservedly so.

By: TerryP

TerryP — Wed, 16 May 2007 05:18:22 +0000

Kevin, the point I was trying to make was that Dr. Paul was mixing both 9/11 and Iraq together and they have virtually nothing to do with each other. If he would have said that he would have either not even received the follow up question about 9/11 or would have at least been able to come up with an answer that didn’t sound looney. I stopped listening at that point so if he later followed up with a better answer, that is good but probably to late. The media and likely the republican voters will roast him for his answer, no matter how right he is about it.

Actually I think the media/commentators actually by asking him some very pointed questions show that they were a little scared that he did so well last time and what that could mean if he did real well again this time.

Tom, even if he won the text poll, I think we could agree sadly that he did not win this debate at least in the eyes of the republican voters. Personally to my chagrin I think he got soundly defeated. He just had a real hard time putting his thoughts into a coherent message that the republican voters could grasp and get behind.