Comments on: Rahm Emanuel — Cheney Can’t Get Funding From Executive Branch http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/06/27/rahm-emanuel-cheney-cant-get-funding-from-executive-branch/ Life. Liberty. Property. Defending individual freedom and liberty, one post at a time. Wed, 22 May 2013 18:26:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: Timotheo http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/06/27/rahm-emanuel-cheney-cant-get-funding-from-executive-branch/#comment-31016 Timotheo Sat, 30 Jun 2007 02:46:55 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/06/27/rahm-emanuel-cheney-cant-get-funding-from-executive-branch/#comment-31016 Where is this spokeswoman byotch from and why can’t we turn her over?

]]> By: archbishop http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/06/27/rahm-emanuel-cheney-cant-get-funding-from-executive-branch/#comment-31010 archbishop Sat, 30 Jun 2007 00:07:28 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/06/27/rahm-emanuel-cheney-cant-get-funding-from-executive-branch/#comment-31010 Not if it means compromising with the neo-con fascists.

]]> By: Paul Nicholas Boylan http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/06/27/rahm-emanuel-cheney-cant-get-funding-from-executive-branch/#comment-30943 Paul Nicholas Boylan Fri, 29 Jun 2007 05:11:17 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/06/27/rahm-emanuel-cheney-cant-get-funding-from-executive-branch/#comment-30943 Can’t we all just get along?

]]> By: archbishop http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/06/27/rahm-emanuel-cheney-cant-get-funding-from-executive-branch/#comment-30942 archbishop Fri, 29 Jun 2007 04:58:36 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/06/27/rahm-emanuel-cheney-cant-get-funding-from-executive-branch/#comment-30942 It’s not important how I classify anything that John Kerry might have done. A more important historical question would be: If John Kerry committed treason in 1971, why did the Nixon administration fail to prosecute him for it? Does your talking points source provide an answer for that?

As for: “Are you telling me that Republicans are the only evil-doers?” That’s a classic effort to misdirect and reframe, but I’m not taking the bait. Sorry. See if you can find a rookie to try that on.

]]> By: trumpetbob15 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/06/27/rahm-emanuel-cheney-cant-get-funding-from-executive-branch/#comment-30937 trumpetbob15 Fri, 29 Jun 2007 04:32:47 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/06/27/rahm-emanuel-cheney-cant-get-funding-from-executive-branch/#comment-30937 What parallel universe? How do you classify Kerry’s meeting? I misspoke earlier when I wrote Gore had treasonous policies. He doesn’t have explicitly treasonous policies, but that doesn’t mean his ideas are Constituitional. Are you telling me that Republicans are the only evil-doers? That is what it seems like in this discussion. I merely wanted to point out that Bush and Cheney weren’t alone in their actions. I rather keep things in perspective, something I notice Democrats generally have a problem with doing.

]]> By: archbishop http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/06/27/rahm-emanuel-cheney-cant-get-funding-from-executive-branch/#comment-30935 archbishop Fri, 29 Jun 2007 04:24:44 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/06/27/rahm-emanuel-cheney-cant-get-funding-from-executive-branch/#comment-30935 Debating with you, trumpetbob15? Goodness, no! All I did was ask some questions. You have provided some delightful answers. I hope that the weather is nice in that parallel universe.

]]> By: trumpetbob15 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/06/27/rahm-emanuel-cheney-cant-get-funding-from-executive-branch/#comment-30934 trumpetbob15 Fri, 29 Jun 2007 03:49:11 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/06/27/rahm-emanuel-cheney-cant-get-funding-from-executive-branch/#comment-30934 archbiship,

I don’t know if you are debating with me, but I will answer your question about Gore and Kerry’s un-Constitutional policies. Gore wants to control Americans by mandating his environmental religion. He wants to take property from people either through pollution taxes or by not allowing people to use the land they own. At least Bush is tending to focus on doing stuff to foreigners.

Kerry met with the North Vietnamese during a time of war when they were the enemy, giving them aid and comfort through his actions. That is the definition of treason.

]]> By: trumpetbob15 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/06/27/rahm-emanuel-cheney-cant-get-funding-from-executive-branch/#comment-30932 trumpetbob15 Fri, 29 Jun 2007 03:43:30 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/06/27/rahm-emanuel-cheney-cant-get-funding-from-executive-branch/#comment-30932 Hmmm…How much of what you mention is fully Bush? War? Approved by Democrats including Hillary and John Kerry. Destroyed our military? How? Is it worse than it was under Clinton back when it was an actual police force rather than an army? Hmmm…who exactly allowed Iran to come to power? I might be young, but I seem to have learned something about Iran back during Jimmy Carter’s days, something about hostages. Who created Social Security and all the other socialized programs truly burdening our children with debt? (Hint: not Republicans, though they haven’t tried to kill the dang things either.) You are misguided on Bush creating more terrorists; that is just a liberal talking point. And most of Bush’s policies that you are complaining about, he actually learned from the Dems hero, Franklin Roosevelt. Not only did FDR implement warrentless wiretaps, but he also went after Americans for following the law. And no, the tax cuts did not transfer money to the wealthy. In even the dumbest understanding, it allowed Americans to keep their money they earned. I know for dang certain that Gore and Kerry would rather treat the American people like a bank with unlimited withdrawels.

All I am saying is that to blame Republicans like they are some evil people for voting for Bush ignores the other half of the country that voted for Democrats. I am not defending Bush’s actions as Constitutional, but I am also not going to give Democrats a pass for the crap they have done. Bush is crap, but he isn’t as crappy as the guys he ran against. This just goes to show the problem with our two-party system.

]]> By: archbishop http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/06/27/rahm-emanuel-cheney-cant-get-funding-from-executive-branch/#comment-30931 archbishop Fri, 29 Jun 2007 03:32:43 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/06/27/rahm-emanuel-cheney-cant-get-funding-from-executive-branch/#comment-30931 Kerry & Gore have treasonous policies? Is it treasonous not to cut taxes? Or are those two different streams of semi-consciousness at work?

Isn’t it closer to treason when someone reduces a country’s sources of revenue during a time of war? Is it even worse when it involves pandering to the freeloaders who want to enjoy the benefits of this country, but who do not want to pay taxes?

]]> By: Paul Nicholas Boylan http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/06/27/rahm-emanuel-cheney-cant-get-funding-from-executive-branch/#comment-30930 Paul Nicholas Boylan Fri, 29 Jun 2007 03:28:03 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/06/27/rahm-emanuel-cheney-cant-get-funding-from-executive-branch/#comment-30930 Ah. You weigh a needless war that has damaged our national power, killed thousands of American youth, all but destroyed our military, allowed the rise of Iran, burdened our children with unimaginable debt, created more terrorists than before the war and gave government an excuse to void constitutional freedoms against a tax cut that did little more than transfer wealth from the middle class to the already wealthy?

You are a comic genius! I love you, you nut!

]]> By: trumpetbob15 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/06/27/rahm-emanuel-cheney-cant-get-funding-from-executive-branch/#comment-30929 trumpetbob15 Fri, 29 Jun 2007 02:50:30 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/06/27/rahm-emanuel-cheney-cant-get-funding-from-executive-branch/#comment-30929 Bush actually pushed for tax cuts. Can you say that Gore or Kerry would have done the same thing?

]]> By: Paul Nicholas Boylan http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/06/27/rahm-emanuel-cheney-cant-get-funding-from-executive-branch/#comment-30928 Paul Nicholas Boylan Fri, 29 Jun 2007 02:47:33 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/06/27/rahm-emanuel-cheney-cant-get-funding-from-executive-branch/#comment-30928 Worse in what way?

]]> By: trumpetbob15 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/06/27/rahm-emanuel-cheney-cant-get-funding-from-executive-branch/#comment-30927 trumpetbob15 Fri, 29 Jun 2007 02:35:14 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/06/27/rahm-emanuel-cheney-cant-get-funding-from-executive-branch/#comment-30927 You know what, when it comes down to fleecing American citizens out of their money or torturing foreign citizens, I much prefer letting the foreigners get hurt. Blaming Americans for choosing Bush over Kerry or Gore ignores both those men and their treasonous policies. So yeah, blame me for voting for Bush. Hopefully next time there will be a better third option, but I am doubting that. Who knows though? Until there is an actual better candidate, can’t blame anyone for trying to keep the worst candidate out of office. And yes, Kerry or Gore would have been much, much worse.

]]> By: archbishop http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/06/27/rahm-emanuel-cheney-cant-get-funding-from-executive-branch/#comment-30925 archbishop Fri, 29 Jun 2007 02:10:14 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/06/27/rahm-emanuel-cheney-cant-get-funding-from-executive-branch/#comment-30925 to Paul Nicholas Boylan, who said: Bush and his coven of Mayberry Machiavellians fooled conservatives the way they fooled the majority of Americans…

If that’s your premise, it might explain some of your confusion. In 2000, Al Gore received more votes than Bush. Nader received another 2 million votes. Bush did NOT fool a “majority” of Americans.

As for the comment: “the Bush White House is not populated by Republicans …”

Here’s what it said on the ballot in 2000, and again in 2004:
Bush / Cheney – Republican Party

At least, I’m reasonably sure that it didn’t say “Mayberry Machiavellians” after their names. I would have remembered that. These people ARE Republicans. Your party ran them, and your party has to take the responsibility for it. If the Republican party crashes and burns because of them, too bad.

No, Bush did not fool a majority of Americans, but he did fool an overwhelming majority of Republicans. Twice. A group of fools such as that should not be allowed to have their own political party anyway.

]]> By: Paul Nicholas Boylan http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/06/27/rahm-emanuel-cheney-cant-get-funding-from-executive-branch/#comment-30923 Paul Nicholas Boylan Fri, 29 Jun 2007 01:33:00 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/06/27/rahm-emanuel-cheney-cant-get-funding-from-executive-branch/#comment-30923 I am disgusted by the far left and the far right. Both extremes resort to dogma and cliche to avoid thinking.

No,what I described are not Republican values, then or now. Bush and his coven of Mayberry Machiavellians fooled conservatives the way they fooled the majority of Americans – they lied. Conservatives were not the only ones who were fooled, although, truth be told, we were ripe for the con because they said what we wanted to hear (small government, control of spending, goverment out of our lives, compassionate conservativism). It was a pretty lie. Liberals have believed equally pretty lies.

No, the Bush White House is not populated by Republicans – it is populated by immoral, out-of-control capitalists who burn with a passionate intensity to replace our democracy with a form of fascism melded with feudalism.

My primary concern is that no one knows – or wants – to stop it. You think the Democrats can – or want to – stop it? Now who is believing pretty lies?

I fear that, as time goes by and it only gets worse, with Democrats using the same tactics introduced by the Bush administration, entrenching tyrany, that the American people will be left with no choice but to exercise the ultimate constitutional right and rise up against the government.

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