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	<title>Comments on: What&#8217;s So Bad About John Doe Protection ?</title>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/07/22/whats-so-bad-about-john-doe-protection/#comment-33307</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 15:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Absolutely Not!  Far too many Mrs. Kravitzes in the world. Tell on your neighbor programs are ludicrous.

Every accused should have the right to face their accuser and the accuser had better have their facts straight. 

The fact that people even ponder the merits of such laws indicate that these are indeed, dangerous times!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely Not!  Far too many Mrs. Kravitzes in the world. Tell on your neighbor programs are ludicrous.</p>
<p>Every accused should have the right to face their accuser and the accuser had better have their facts straight. </p>
<p>The fact that people even ponder the merits of such laws indicate that these are indeed, dangerous times!</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Isabelo Morales</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/07/22/whats-so-bad-about-john-doe-protection/#comment-33205</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Isabelo Morales</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 20:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;And on your other point:â€œI would expect that if the behavior was suspicious, any jury of their peers would find that the people reporting the behavior were not doing so out of vengeance or racism, but out of sincere concern. Why would they need immunity?â€ You may have more faith in a jury than I do, but beyond that these John Doeâ€™s who are being sued will have to pay their own legal fees regardless of the outcome (one reason I support a â€˜loser payâ€™ system). I donâ€™t believe that the Imams will win their suit but such a case could still have a chilling effect on others who might come forward in future incidents.&quot;

I agree that with the current justice system, even while making a justified report, the &#039;John Doe&#039; without this protection, would be required to come up with the funds necessary to answer any suits and that in itself would prevent anyone from making any kind of a sincere report to authorities of such possible threats. It&#039;s time to use common sense and stop allowing &#039;Political Correctness&#039; from utilizing the largest and last line of defense... the citizenry.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And on your other point:â€œI would expect that if the behavior was suspicious, any jury of their peers would find that the people reporting the behavior were not doing so out of vengeance or racism, but out of sincere concern. Why would they need immunity?â€ You may have more faith in a jury than I do, but beyond that these John Doeâ€™s who are being sued will have to pay their own legal fees regardless of the outcome (one reason I support a â€˜loser payâ€™ system). I donâ€™t believe that the Imams will win their suit but such a case could still have a chilling effect on others who might come forward in future incidents.&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree that with the current justice system, even while making a justified report, the &#8216;John Doe&#8217; without this protection, would be required to come up with the funds necessary to answer any suits and that in itself would prevent anyone from making any kind of a sincere report to authorities of such possible threats. It&#8217;s time to use common sense and stop allowing &#8216;Political Correctness&#8217; from utilizing the largest and last line of defense&#8230; the citizenry.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Littau</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Littau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 18:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And on your other point: 

â€œI would expect that if the behavior was suspicious, any jury of their peers would find that the people reporting the behavior were not doing so out of vengeance or racism, but out of sincere concern. Why would they need immunity?â€ 

You may have more faith in a jury than I do, but beyond that these John Doeâ€™s who are being sued will have to pay their own legal fees regardless of the outcome (one reason I support a â€˜loser payâ€™ system). I donâ€™t believe that the Imams will win their suit but such a case could still have a chilling effect on others who might come forward in future incidents.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And on your other point: </p>
<p>â€œI would expect that if the behavior was suspicious, any jury of their peers would find that the people reporting the behavior were not doing so out of vengeance or racism, but out of sincere concern. Why would they need immunity?â€ </p>
<p>You may have more faith in a jury than I do, but beyond that these John Doeâ€™s who are being sued will have to pay their own legal fees regardless of the outcome (one reason I support a â€˜loser payâ€™ system). I donâ€™t believe that the Imams will win their suit but such a case could still have a chilling effect on others who might come forward in future incidents.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Littau</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/07/22/whats-so-bad-about-john-doe-protection/#comment-33196</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Littau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 18:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brad: 

The reason for this provision is to protect individuals who in good faith report suspicious activity. These Imams are trying to sue individuals who had such concerns. If all these individuals were acting in bad faith, then they still could be sued and/or prosecuted for making a false report. How can the government ask us to be, on one hand vigilant and report suspicious activity while on the other hand, not offer protection to those who do?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad: </p>
<p>The reason for this provision is to protect individuals who in good faith report suspicious activity. These Imams are trying to sue individuals who had such concerns. If all these individuals were acting in bad faith, then they still could be sued and/or prosecuted for making a false report. How can the government ask us to be, on one hand vigilant and report suspicious activity while on the other hand, not offer protection to those who do?</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/07/22/whats-so-bad-about-john-doe-protection/#comment-33128</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 16:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can see both sides of the argument. On one hand, these dangerous times call for a vigilant populace. But then again, one does not want to be falsely accused of an accusation and not know who bore false witness against him, radical intentions or not. Unfortunately, IMO we can only look at the merit of each case and determine who is correct. I don&#039;t think we may be able to necessarily create a law that decides what is deemed &quot;suspicious&quot;...this of course is in the eye of the beholder.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can see both sides of the argument. On one hand, these dangerous times call for a vigilant populace. But then again, one does not want to be falsely accused of an accusation and not know who bore false witness against him, radical intentions or not. Unfortunately, IMO we can only look at the merit of each case and determine who is correct. I don&#8217;t think we may be able to necessarily create a law that decides what is deemed &#8220;suspicious&#8221;&#8230;this of course is in the eye of the beholder.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/07/22/whats-so-bad-about-john-doe-protection/#comment-33125</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 16:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If this provision eventually becomes law, it will give our flying &#039;friends&#039; a pause or two to think again. 

Imagine their chagrin - when intentionally creating a situation to set themselves up as &#039;victims&#039; - only later to see nation-wide laws enacted designed to short-circuit their own hubris. 

Poetic justice.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this provision eventually becomes law, it will give our flying &#8216;friends&#8217; a pause or two to think again. </p>
<p>Imagine their chagrin &#8211; when intentionally creating a situation to set themselves up as &#8216;victims&#8217; &#8211; only later to see nation-wide laws enacted designed to short-circuit their own hubris. </p>
<p>Poetic justice.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Warbiany</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/07/22/whats-so-bad-about-john-doe-protection/#comment-33122</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Warbiany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 15:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;Given the current state of the world, and absent any evidence of an intent to specifically injure a specific person, the answer, it would seem should be quite obviously no.&lt;/em&gt;

Doug,

In a world where these guys could have been pulled away to Gitmo and declared enemy combatants, denied access to a trial, I would say that while there may not be &quot;intent&quot; to specifically injure these imams, it could easily be seen as a likely outcome.

Personally I don&#039;t see any reason to grant people blanket immunity.  I would expect that if the behavior was suspicious, any jury of their peers would find that the people reporting the behavior were not doing so out of vengeance or racism, but out of sincere concern.  Why would they need immunity?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Given the current state of the world, and absent any evidence of an intent to specifically injure a specific person, the answer, it would seem should be quite obviously no.</em></p>
<p>Doug,</p>
<p>In a world where these guys could have been pulled away to Gitmo and declared enemy combatants, denied access to a trial, I would say that while there may not be &#8220;intent&#8221; to specifically injure these imams, it could easily be seen as a likely outcome.</p>
<p>Personally I don&#8217;t see any reason to grant people blanket immunity.  I would expect that if the behavior was suspicious, any jury of their peers would find that the people reporting the behavior were not doing so out of vengeance or racism, but out of sincere concern.  Why would they need immunity?</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/07/22/whats-so-bad-about-john-doe-protection/#comment-33120</link>
		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 15:22:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It was shot down because of the bear fault witness again somebody. this is a tool thats used often when the president says it ok., But with out accountable for ones statements someone could put you through hell because they were mad at you and you could&#039;nt do anything about legally. Wayne]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was shot down because of the bear fault witness again somebody. this is a tool thats used often when the president says it ok., But with out accountable for ones statements someone could put you through hell because they were mad at you and you could&#8217;nt do anything about legally. Wayne</p>
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