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	<title>Comments on: New York City Continues To Turn Into The Nanny State</title>
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		<title>By: Stephen Littau</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Littau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 19:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Joon: 

It&#039;s not a perfect solution but I think that when the children grow up they should be able to file a suit. This is why I say there should be no statute of limitations for such a lawsuit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joon: </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not a perfect solution but I think that when the children grow up they should be able to file a suit. This is why I say there should be no statute of limitations for such a lawsuit.</p>
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		<title>By: Joon</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/08/15/new-york-city-continues-to-turn-into-the-nanny-state/#comment-35138</link>
		<dc:creator>Joon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 16:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m no fan of the &quot;nanny-state&quot; laws, but I think this is a much better idea than the previous smoking laws. The main issue to me is personal choice - you can decide for yourself whether you want to patronize a smoking bar, or a restaurant serving trans fats. However, children of smokers do not have the ability to make this choice. I&#039;ve had trips in cars with heavy smokers who choose not to roll down the windows, and it&#039;s an awful experience.

Stephen - do you really think it&#039;s feasible for a minor go through the process of proving his/her health was damaged and then take the adult/parent to court?

Ultimately I&#039;m not saying this is a good law (I don&#039;t think any of this should be legislated), but it&#039;s one that should have come before the other nanny laws.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m no fan of the &#8220;nanny-state&#8221; laws, but I think this is a much better idea than the previous smoking laws. The main issue to me is personal choice &#8211; you can decide for yourself whether you want to patronize a smoking bar, or a restaurant serving trans fats. However, children of smokers do not have the ability to make this choice. I&#8217;ve had trips in cars with heavy smokers who choose not to roll down the windows, and it&#8217;s an awful experience.</p>
<p>Stephen &#8211; do you really think it&#8217;s feasible for a minor go through the process of proving his/her health was damaged and then take the adult/parent to court?</p>
<p>Ultimately I&#8217;m not saying this is a good law (I don&#8217;t think any of this should be legislated), but it&#8217;s one that should have come before the other nanny laws.</p>
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		<title>By: Rhymes With Right</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rhymes With Right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 02:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To answer your closing question -- 2-5 years, depending upon how much resistance there is to the car ban.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To answer your closing question &#8212; 2-5 years, depending upon how much resistance there is to the car ban.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Littau</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/08/15/new-york-city-continues-to-turn-into-the-nanny-state/#comment-35052</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Littau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 21:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Doug: 

I agree with your position with one caveat: If a minor could prove that his or her health was actually harmed, s/he should be able to file a suit against the smoker without any statute of limitations. This would be a very high burden of proof to be sure.  

I’m very skeptical about the actual harm of second hand smoke at this point, however. I used to whole heartedly buy into the notion of second hand smoke being harmful but I have since watched an episode of Penn and Teller’s Bullshit that made an effort to debunk it. They made a very convincing case.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug: </p>
<p>I agree with your position with one caveat: If a minor could prove that his or her health was actually harmed, s/he should be able to file a suit against the smoker without any statute of limitations. This would be a very high burden of proof to be sure.  </p>
<p>I’m very skeptical about the actual harm of second hand smoke at this point, however. I used to whole heartedly buy into the notion of second hand smoke being harmful but I have since watched an episode of Penn and Teller’s Bullshit that made an effort to debunk it. They made a very convincing case.</p>
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		<title>By: trumpetbob15</title>
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		<dc:creator>trumpetbob15</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 20:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perhaps I might just be kind of sarcastic, but shouldn&#039;t cars be banned before cigarettes if saving lives is the goal?  Don&#039;t more people die in car accidents than from smoking?

Then again, I don&#039;t want to give these nuts any more idiotic ideas.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps I might just be kind of sarcastic, but shouldn&#8217;t cars be banned before cigarettes if saving lives is the goal?  Don&#8217;t more people die in car accidents than from smoking?</p>
<p>Then again, I don&#8217;t want to give these nuts any more idiotic ideas.</p>
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