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	<title>Comments on: Padilla &#8212; Results Buttresses Bush &amp; His Detractors</title>
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		<title>By: Jeff Molby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Molby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 18:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Libby was convicted of perjury as well as obstruction of justice.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Libby was convicted of perjury as well as obstruction of justice.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Warbiany</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad Warbiany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 05:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jeff,

I&#039;ll agree with you on that...  My first thought when I read that he wasn&#039;t actually convicted of the dirty bomb plot was &quot;Martha Stewart&quot; and &quot;Scooter Libby&quot;.  I&#039;m definitely a bit worried that the charges that he was convicted of were considerably watered down.

That being said, the damage to civil liberties was already done on that one...  After all, the two folks I just mentioned were convicted of giving false statements to investigators.  Not perjury, just not being 100% truthful with the people trying to put you in jail.  That seems like it really reverses the burden of proof, where the government doesn&#039;t have to prove that you did what they allege, they just have to prove you lied (about anything) when trying to throw them off your trail.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll agree with you on that&#8230;  My first thought when I read that he wasn&#8217;t actually convicted of the dirty bomb plot was &#8220;Martha Stewart&#8221; and &#8220;Scooter Libby&#8221;.  I&#8217;m definitely a bit worried that the charges that he was convicted of were considerably watered down.</p>
<p>That being said, the damage to civil liberties was already done on that one&#8230;  After all, the two folks I just mentioned were convicted of giving false statements to investigators.  Not perjury, just not being 100% truthful with the people trying to put you in jail.  That seems like it really reverses the burden of proof, where the government doesn&#8217;t have to prove that you did what they allege, they just have to prove you lied (about anything) when trying to throw them off your trail.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Molby</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/08/17/padilla-results-buttresses-bush-his-detractors/#comment-35198</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Molby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 05:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with what you wrote, but there&#039;s one more thing that needs to be said.

The particular charge of conspiracy that was used is incredibly vague and the evidence used to gain the conviction was incredibly light. 

That precedent may turn out to be infinitely more damaging to civil liberties than the fight over habeas corpus. After all, a despot can gladly grant habeas corpus if he knows the burden of proof is extremely light.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with what you wrote, but there&#8217;s one more thing that needs to be said.</p>
<p>The particular charge of conspiracy that was used is incredibly vague and the evidence used to gain the conviction was incredibly light. </p>
<p>That precedent may turn out to be infinitely more damaging to civil liberties than the fight over habeas corpus. After all, a despot can gladly grant habeas corpus if he knows the burden of proof is extremely light.</p>
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		<title>By: Connecting News, Commentaries and Blogs at NineReports.com - Verdict reached in terrorism support case</title>
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		<dc:creator>Connecting News, Commentaries and Blogs at NineReports.com - Verdict reached in terrorism support case</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 22:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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