The difference between fighting for your rights and infringing on mine comes at the point where you get government involved to deal with the situation.

If, hypothetically, you and some friends don’t want to live around black people that’s your right to believe what you want. If you purchase several homes in the same neighborhood, maybe the neighboring homes as well, at that point you have the right to sell or not sell your property to whomever you choose. You have the right to allow or not allow whoever you want onto your property. Those are your rights of free association and property ownership.

Where it becomes a matter of force is where you ask the government to step in and dictate who may or may not purchase those homes. Once you ask that the government step in and write a law to dictate that someone not be able to purchase a home in your area based on their ethnicity or skin color or whatever criteria you’ve gone from being someone defending their rights to being someone attempting to force their beliefs on others (since law is by its nature coercive and backed by violence). Basically, your rights to impose segregation stop at your property line and however you choose to act within that framework is your own business. Once you go outside of your property line imposing segregation is no longer your prerogative. Understand what I’m getting at?

Your type of beliefs have interfered with my life, nation, race and culture. Naturally I’m resisting.

Of course. Fight the fights you believe in. Just respect my rights in the process.

Point being; The problem I have is exactly what you didn’t want to happen to yourself. Your type of beliefs have interfered with my life, nation, race and culture. Naturally I’m resisting.

As I said before, I respect your right to free association and if you want to stay racially separate that’s entirely up to you and I won’t try to convince you otherwise. As for your opinions on race, you’re entitled to them, but I don’t buy into them and as long as you’re not trying to force them on me or anyone else then we’ve got no conflict, merely a disagreement that there’s no need to really get into because we’re likely not going to come to a consensus.

You may claim I’m trying to “force segregation” on others, but Segregation was natural, it was those who forced integration that decided to change things.

No, there’s nothing innate about segregation. It is true that for much of history, cultural groups have excluded or discriminated against other cultural groups. But this segregation was cultural in motivation, not racial. There are lots of examples of societies in which racial differences were subsumed to cultural differences. The best example of this is Islam, in which racial differences were completely subsumed to religious factors. If you were Islamic, your skin color didn’t matter. If you were an infidel, your skin color wouldn’t save you.

Let me give you an analogy. There are many different versions of the Bible out there. What you’re doing is comparing three Bibles. Two have red covers and one has a black cover. You’re declaring — based solely on the color of the cover — that the two red Bibles are obviously different from the black Bible. You haven’t looked inside the Bibles and read any of their contents. For all you know, one of the red Bibles is written in Portuguese and the other red Bible is written in Dutch, while the black Bible is written in Dutch. You’re looking only skin deep.

You write “My mind is always open to what Science can provide us.” Well, the science of human genetics has established a great deal (and there are lots of interesting genetic differences), but it has pretty well demolished the very concept of race. If I showed you a hundred different genetic breakdowns of a hundred different humans, and asked you to break them down into races based on genetic similarity, you would end up mixing up all the people that you think are separate races, and coming up with completely different groupings.

If as you mentioned before you treat things as Equal then I guess you will be just as critical about Obama’s connections to a Black Supremacist church and his mainly racialist loyal supporters.

“Systematically breeded out of existence” implies a program that determines my mate for me and forces reproduction without my consent. No such choice is made for me and I have a wealth of options to choose from as, I assume, do you. When humans reproduce, some traits are passed on to the offspring, some are not but both parents contribute. One ethnic group does not have a monopoly on dominant genetic traits. Now if you’re interested in only being with people who are from a similar background to your own, that’s again your right of free association and your own form of natural selection. For myself, I’ll just choose someone I happen to like as a person and feel attracted to, which hasn’t been exclusive to any ethnic group or excluded any ethnic group as far as I’ve seen. Everyone’s got something positive about them. Natural segregation I can live with, as long as you’re not proposing to limit my options by creating segregation through the rule of man’s law, you and I aren’t in conflict.

You make it seem as if one can separate in our Multiracial, Multicultural Nations. I believe rather that It’s near impossible for the Racial and cultural integrity of a people to maintain in such conditions. A people without a Homogenous homeland will never survive past a few centuries. I truly believe races of Humans do exist, we have evolved Sub-species, I can’t believe anyone would believe otherwise. To say we don’t have Physical and mental characteristics not shared with other groups is somewhat baffling. We all agree skin is different, though Skin is just an organ, why would that be privy to change but not other organs?. people under estimate Evolution. We change when we lye in the sun to get a tan. That’s our body adapting to it’s sorroundings, the same with Body building, your muscles adapt to the stresses and conditions you put them through and 100+ thousand years of separation has changed Humans social mental and physical behavior.

But that is the core of Anti-racism these days, to force a social experiment onto the people you need to subvert them into thinking unrationally. When you look at things more objectively rather than subjectively it’s out of the range of possibility that all races are equal but one of those is responsible to close to 90% of all the great inventions and discoveries of the world. I just don’t buy it.

White pride to you may be interpreted as White power if you like, but that doesn’t change its meaning. Again the double standards of Whites being the only race that can’t be proud of its heritage is disturbing to me. To which I take the philosophic approach of asking not why it is but how it has came to be. I belong to a group who are being systematically breeded out of existence in the name of “Tolerance”, any demographic I’ve seen shows Whites will be long gone before most other Races.

Unfortunately the “It’s just a skin color” gets played over again, but that is one small attribute of races, purely because of climate. It’s just a color to me, Race is a lot deeper. It’s only “useless” to Egalitarians and cultural Marxists, and we don’t share that view. It might be low down on your scale but not of ours. My best mate is Aboriginal, He’s is one of the nicest Blokes you’re ever likely to meet, but that doesn’t change that there are difference between us that are Biological. Australian Aboriginals can’t drink alcohol like White Europeans can because they lack the enzymes in their blood to break it down as efficiently. If Race didn’t exist neither would that. Organ rejection rates go up when the donor and receiver are of a different race and so on.

I respect your opinion, My mind is always open to what Science can provide us. Each Race has their own Inherent biological traits that evolved from their culture and sorroundings which they can use to their advantage in different fields, sport,education etc.

You may claim I’m trying to “force segregation” on others, but Segregation was natural, it was those who forced integration that decided to change things. A lot of that blame falls back onto Europeans, and being the believer in survival of the fittest, if we don’t resist current trends then we have only ourselves to blame.

“White Pride” means the same thing to me as “White Power”…it’s a pointless celebration based on the idea that all white people share a common heritage, which we don’t, and that some kind of racial ideal exists, which it doesn’t (and the same is true of every other ethnic group in the world). The color of somebody’s skin or their ethnic background is the most useless characteristic to judge them by as far as I’m concerned. Who they are as an individual and how they act towards me is what’s important. I’ve got friends who are black who I’d trust with my life without a second’s hesitation and I’ve known white people I wouldn’t walk across the street to piss on if they were on fire. The characteristics that formed my opinion of them had nothing to do with their racial background but in who they were as people and frankly I don’t see the color of somebody’s skin as a reason to be either proud or ashamed. It’s just a superficial characteristic, and it becomes more and more meaningless as the world becomes more interconnected and humans societies further intermingle.

Like I said, if you want to separate yourself from people who don’t look like you, as far as I’m concerned that’s your individual right to free association. And as long as you’re not trying to impose segregation on others in the public domain by force of law, you’ll have no arguments with me.

But I do agree with you about the hypocrisy of groups who claim to want equality but are really looking for special privileges or to force their preferences on other people. If it makes you feel any better, I react just as harshly towards them as I do towards white separatists/supremacists/etc.

Actually I was just citing examples, that wasn’t meant as an accusation as to your personal tastes because I really don’t know who you like or dislike, or even really care. I just named three random groups, the statement is just as applicable to groups who don’t like white people either.

If you want to be separate, that’s your right to free association. I do think it’s stupid, but then again I believe that individual freedom also includes the right to be stupid and irrational so we’ll just agree to disagree. Where I draw the line is where separatists start trying to apply segregation outside the realm of their own property lines. Believe and associate with who you want in your own home or business…but leave that crap out of how government does business in the public domain.

As for Stormfront, I agree on the smaller point that racism is prevalent today and that often the press does have a double standard when it comes to who is portrayed as the victim. But I’m not deluding myself into believing that a site proclaiming “White Power” on its front page is pushing for equality for individuals…they’re pushing for their own version of special perks for their select group. It’s wrong when black people do it and it’s equally as wrong when white people do it.