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		<title>By: Chris Kachouroff</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/11/05/remember-the-5th-of-november/#comment-43206</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Kachouroff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 12:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone heard the rumour that there are still unprocessed credit card payments?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone heard the rumour that there are still unprocessed credit card payments?</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Mataconis</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/11/05/remember-the-5th-of-november/#comment-43204</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Mataconis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 11:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Buckwheat,

You&#039;re always good for a laugh, if not an actual substantive comment resembling the truth.

Although if you&#039;re right I&#039;d better call Karl Rove, because I haven&#039;t been getting my payments from the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy recently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buckwheat,</p>
<p>You&#8217;re always good for a laugh, if not an actual substantive comment resembling the truth.</p>
<p>Although if you&#8217;re right I&#8217;d better call Karl Rove, because I haven&#8217;t been getting my payments from the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy recently.</p>
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		<title>By: Buckwheat</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/11/05/remember-the-5th-of-november/#comment-43197</link>
		<dc:creator>Buckwheat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 07:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You claim to be supportive of Dr. Paul, and I can certainly understand, appreciate, and even encourage constructive criticism, but even the most positive reports of the campaign’s progress, such as raising $1.8 million in 13 hours, are tinted with the slightest bit of subtle deconstruction. You need offer no explanation, but I wonder: what’s the deal?&quot;

The &quot;deal&quot; is that Mataconis is a hooked-in neocon shill pretending to be a libertarian, as I&#039;ve been pointing out here for months.

Go to lawyers.com and Google him.  You&#039;ll be surprised at what you find.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You claim to be supportive of Dr. Paul, and I can certainly understand, appreciate, and even encourage constructive criticism, but even the most positive reports of the campaign’s progress, such as raising $1.8 million in 13 hours, are tinted with the slightest bit of subtle deconstruction. You need offer no explanation, but I wonder: what’s the deal?&#8221;</p>
<p>The &#8220;deal&#8221; is that Mataconis is a hooked-in neocon shill pretending to be a libertarian, as I&#8217;ve been pointing out here for months.</p>
<p>Go to lawyers.com and Google him.  You&#8217;ll be surprised at what you find.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Molby</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/11/05/remember-the-5th-of-november/#comment-43193</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Molby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 05:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think they recognized their mistake early, Terry, but they decided to just take their medicine rather than adjusting the goal. At a press conference a few weeks ago, Bydlak stated that they were really shooting for 3-4-5. The 4-4-4 idea was just plain stupid. Even if they thought they could get 4 in October, they should have shot for 4-5-6 or some such. 

No big deal though. It was just an interim goal, so no outsiders were paying any attention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think they recognized their mistake early, Terry, but they decided to just take their medicine rather than adjusting the goal. At a press conference a few weeks ago, Bydlak stated that they were really shooting for 3-4-5. The 4-4-4 idea was just plain stupid. Even if they thought they could get 4 in October, they should have shot for 4-5-6 or some such. </p>
<p>No big deal though. It was just an interim goal, so no outsiders were paying any attention.</p>
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		<title>By: TerryP</title>
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		<dc:creator>TerryP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 04:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doug 

I stand corrected.  It was I guess $4 million a month.  I was earlier under the immpression that they thought it would build each month to total $12 million.

This huge fundraising effort seems to be getting a lot of press with MSM.  No matter what anybody says this is a huge step forward for the campaign, especially in the eyes of the media.

I hope he can ride this wave and turn it into votes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug </p>
<p>I stand corrected.  It was I guess $4 million a month.  I was earlier under the immpression that they thought it would build each month to total $12 million.</p>
<p>This huge fundraising effort seems to be getting a lot of press with MSM.  No matter what anybody says this is a huge step forward for the campaign, especially in the eyes of the media.</p>
<p>I hope he can ride this wave and turn it into votes.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Molby</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/11/05/remember-the-5th-of-november/#comment-43190</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Molby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 03:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Yea, you’d be right if you said that holding back donations and dumping them all on one day like this is a publicity stunt, but its a good publicity stunt, the kind that’s likely to get the media to take notice again.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
It&#039;s more than just a stunt though. 

I guarantee we got a lot of money that otherwise wouldn&#039;t have been donated. I&#039;ve mostly been donating my time, but with a force-multiplying event like this, it made sense to put in a few hours of OT and chip in some cash instead. 

Also, the campaign now knows what it has to work with. It can pretty much count on getting the $12m, whereas the slow and steady approach would have left them hedging their bets for the next 6 weeks. 

And It&#039;s also a matter of flexing our muscles and proving to ourselves and the world what we&#039;re capable of. If we come out of the early states with a couple strong showings, everyone knows we&#039;ll deliver when the campaign asks us for a quick $10m to blitz the Super Tuesday states. 

Yes, the money and the press are huge, but the intangibles of this event are even bigger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Yea, you’d be right if you said that holding back donations and dumping them all on one day like this is a publicity stunt, but its a good publicity stunt, the kind that’s likely to get the media to take notice again.</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s more than just a stunt though. </p>
<p>I guarantee we got a lot of money that otherwise wouldn&#8217;t have been donated. I&#8217;ve mostly been donating my time, but with a force-multiplying event like this, it made sense to put in a few hours of OT and chip in some cash instead. </p>
<p>Also, the campaign now knows what it has to work with. It can pretty much count on getting the $12m, whereas the slow and steady approach would have left them hedging their bets for the next 6 weeks. </p>
<p>And It&#8217;s also a matter of flexing our muscles and proving to ourselves and the world what we&#8217;re capable of. If we come out of the early states with a couple strong showings, everyone knows we&#8217;ll deliver when the campaign asks us for a quick $10m to blitz the Super Tuesday states. </p>
<p>Yes, the money and the press are huge, but the intangibles of this event are even bigger.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Mataconis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Mataconis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 02:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terry,

1. The goal is $ 12 million in three months, with the specific mention of $ 4 million in October. They fell short, there&#039;s nothing wrong with pointing that out.

2. Guy Fawkes was a terrorist who wanted to replace a Protestant tyranny with a Catholic one, hardly worth celebrating in my opinion. Chris is right that this was more a node to the movie than the terrorist, though.

3. Facts are neither positive nor negative, they are simply facts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terry,</p>
<p>1. The goal is $ 12 million in three months, with the specific mention of $ 4 million in October. They fell short, there&#8217;s nothing wrong with pointing that out.</p>
<p>2. Guy Fawkes was a terrorist who wanted to replace a Protestant tyranny with a Catholic one, hardly worth celebrating in my opinion. Chris is right that this was more a node to the movie than the terrorist, though.</p>
<p>3. Facts are neither positive nor negative, they are simply facts.</p>
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		<title>By: The Crossed Pond &#187; Blog Roundup of This November 5th</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/11/05/remember-the-5th-of-november/#comment-43188</link>
		<dc:creator>The Crossed Pond &#187; Blog Roundup of This November 5th</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 01:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Liberty Papers:tt  Ron Paul?s supporters are doing a money bomb today, and it appears to be going rather well. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The Liberty Papers:tt  Ron Paul?s supporters are doing a money bomb today, and it appears to be going rather well. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Kachouroff</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/11/05/remember-the-5th-of-november/#comment-43187</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Kachouroff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 01:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I seriously doubt that the effort on behalf of Ron Paul was to remember Guy Fawkes&#039; day. Mataconis would be right to question that insanity because Guy Fawkes did not succeed whereas Ron Paul has. It makes no sense. Rather, I believe it comes directly from the 2005 movie, &quot;V for Vendetta&quot; that references Guy Fawkes&#039; effort and the Fawkes&#039; poem &quot;Remember, remember the 5th of November...&quot; 

And yes the campaign did have a goal of $4 million in October.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I seriously doubt that the effort on behalf of Ron Paul was to remember Guy Fawkes&#8217; day. Mataconis would be right to question that insanity because Guy Fawkes did not succeed whereas Ron Paul has. It makes no sense. Rather, I believe it comes directly from the 2005 movie, &#8220;V for Vendetta&#8221; that references Guy Fawkes&#8217; effort and the Fawkes&#8217; poem &#8220;Remember, remember the 5th of November&#8230;&#8221; </p>
<p>And yes the campaign did have a goal of $4 million in October.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Kachouroff</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/11/05/remember-the-5th-of-november/#comment-43186</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Kachouroff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 01:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doug and the rest of you,

You all need to get a grip and watch this training film brought to you by the Ron Paul Girl who made the 5th of November possible:

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/892703/great_moments_in_u_s_history/

BTW, 3.54 million as of 8:26 p.m.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug and the rest of you,</p>
<p>You all need to get a grip and watch this training film brought to you by the Ron Paul Girl who made the 5th of November possible:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.metacafe.com/watch/892703/great_moments_in_u_s_history/" rel="nofollow">http://www.metacafe.com/watch/892703/great_moments_in_u_s_history/</a></p>
<p>BTW, 3.54 million as of 8:26 p.m.</p>
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		<title>By: TanGeng</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/11/05/remember-the-5th-of-november/#comment-43185</link>
		<dc:creator>TanGeng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 01:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m pretty sure they did have a goal of 4 million for October, but they didn&#039;t need to make that goal for it to be a successful month.  Add in the offline contributions and it&#039;s probably a 2.7 million dollar October, impressive by any standard considering Paul&#039;s track record.

But today is just amazing. Who knew that much money was going to be thrown in all at the same time.  The current rate keeps up, they&#039;ll be looking at close to 4 million in a single day.  Anyhoo lay off Doug.  It&#039;s fine to be skeptical and/or cynical.

It&#039;s smart for a small portion of us to be that way.  It keeps the irrationally exuberant people in check so that everyone doesn&#039;t go out and undertake asinine activities.  In fact I would say that the world really lacks a proper number of skeptics and cynics, &#039;cause look at the mess we&#039;re in right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure they did have a goal of 4 million for October, but they didn&#8217;t need to make that goal for it to be a successful month.  Add in the offline contributions and it&#8217;s probably a 2.7 million dollar October, impressive by any standard considering Paul&#8217;s track record.</p>
<p>But today is just amazing. Who knew that much money was going to be thrown in all at the same time.  The current rate keeps up, they&#8217;ll be looking at close to 4 million in a single day.  Anyhoo lay off Doug.  It&#8217;s fine to be skeptical and/or cynical.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s smart for a small portion of us to be that way.  It keeps the irrationally exuberant people in check so that everyone doesn&#8217;t go out and undertake asinine activities.  In fact I would say that the world really lacks a proper number of skeptics and cynics, &#8217;cause look at the mess we&#8217;re in right now.</p>
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		<title>By: TerryP</title>
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		<dc:creator>TerryP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 01:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your negativity is in the false statement about how much they raised in October compared to what I guess you thought they projected.  

Your negativity also comes in the statement about blowing up Parliament.  Who cares about that other than someone who is trying to find something negative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your negativity is in the false statement about how much they raised in October compared to what I guess you thought they projected.  </p>
<p>Your negativity also comes in the statement about blowing up Parliament.  Who cares about that other than someone who is trying to find something negative.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Kachouroff</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/11/05/remember-the-5th-of-november/#comment-43183</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Kachouroff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 01:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>3.47 million as of 8:11 p.m.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3.47 million as of 8:11 p.m.</p>
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		<title>By: TerryP</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/11/05/remember-the-5th-of-november/#comment-43182</link>
		<dc:creator>TerryP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 01:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doug 

You need to get your facts straight.  From my understanding they never had a goal of getting $4 million in October.  I believe they expected each month to grow in amount given so that October could be something like $1.5-3 million, a bigger number in November and then an even bigger number in December totaling at least $12 million.

While they may have been short of their hoped for amount in October it certainly wasn&#039;t nearly half of what was expected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug </p>
<p>You need to get your facts straight.  From my understanding they never had a goal of getting $4 million in October.  I believe they expected each month to grow in amount given so that October could be something like $1.5-3 million, a bigger number in November and then an even bigger number in December totaling at least $12 million.</p>
<p>While they may have been short of their hoped for amount in October it certainly wasn&#8217;t nearly half of what was expected.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Molby</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/11/05/remember-the-5th-of-november/#comment-43167</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Molby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian,

I&#039;ve been very critical of Doug at times, but there&#039;s nothing wrong with this post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been very critical of Doug at times, but there&#8217;s nothing wrong with this post.</p>
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