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	<title>Comments on: Thoughts On November 11th</title>
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		<title>By: David M</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/11/11/thoughts-on-november-11th/#comment-43766</link>
		<dc:creator>David M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 04:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said Doug, excellent post.</description>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/11/11/thoughts-on-november-11th/#comment-43756</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 02:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now, bear in mind that I am not a neo-conservative, nor do I support their foreign policy. 

TanGeng and Doug, you are both incorrect about NeoCon foreign policy. And it is not comparable to Wilson&#039;s reasons for entering WWI, which were idealistic and altruistic (and untenable as well). NeoCon foreign policy says that we remake things to be more liberal, democratic and capitalist &lt;i&gt;because&lt;/i&gt; it makes the USA safer. That is not the same as fighting a war to spread democracy for the sake of democracy, which is what Wilson advocated.

By the way, we are applying the term NeoCon wildly incorrectly, in any case. NeoCons are people who used to be leftist democrats and switched sides, so to speak. Strictly speaking, W can&#039;t be a NeoCon because of that. Reagan, on the other hand, was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, bear in mind that I am not a neo-conservative, nor do I support their foreign policy. </p>
<p>TanGeng and Doug, you are both incorrect about NeoCon foreign policy. And it is not comparable to Wilson&#8217;s reasons for entering WWI, which were idealistic and altruistic (and untenable as well). NeoCon foreign policy says that we remake things to be more liberal, democratic and capitalist <i>because</i> it makes the USA safer. That is not the same as fighting a war to spread democracy for the sake of democracy, which is what Wilson advocated.</p>
<p>By the way, we are applying the term NeoCon wildly incorrectly, in any case. NeoCons are people who used to be leftist democrats and switched sides, so to speak. Strictly speaking, W can&#8217;t be a NeoCon because of that. Reagan, on the other hand, was.</p>
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		<title>By: TanGeng</title>
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		<dc:creator>TanGeng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 01:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doug,

It sort of feels like Rome invading Gaul so that Romans could bring civilization to those &quot;barbaric&quot; Gauls.  Today, we&#039;re not even sure that the Gauls were as barbaric as the Romans claimed they were, but there was a humanitarian justification for invading France and killing the resistance, enslaving the unruly, and raping the women.

Errrr...  At least I think it was a humanitarian justification.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug,</p>
<p>It sort of feels like Rome invading Gaul so that Romans could bring civilization to those &#8220;barbaric&#8221; Gauls.  Today, we&#8217;re not even sure that the Gauls were as barbaric as the Romans claimed they were, but there was a humanitarian justification for invading France and killing the resistance, enslaving the unruly, and raping the women.</p>
<p>Errrr&#8230;  At least I think it was a humanitarian justification.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Mataconis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Mataconis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 01:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric,

The only comparison to World War I mean to make is to the idea that American foreign policy should be guided by some zeal to remake the world --- which, essentially, is what Wilson used to justify entry into the war back in 1917/ 

In that respect, I think, the neocon response to 9/11 -- that America needs to remake the political structure of the Middle East --- is similar to the logic that propelled us into the Great War.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric,</p>
<p>The only comparison to World War I mean to make is to the idea that American foreign policy should be guided by some zeal to remake the world &#8212; which, essentially, is what Wilson used to justify entry into the war back in 1917/ </p>
<p>In that respect, I think, the neocon response to 9/11 &#8212; that America needs to remake the political structure of the Middle East &#8212; is similar to the logic that propelled us into the Great War.</p>
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		<title>By: TanGeng</title>
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		<dc:creator>TanGeng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 01:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, the peace you speak of reminds me of Pax Romana.

The legions of Rome are off in the distant edges engaging in small skirmishes with any group that might threaten the cities and the peace of the Empire.  Meanwhile the stupid plebs back home are sedated by the gory games at the Colosseum and reap the benefits from the spoils the army manages to loot and pillage.  All of this is finance by a dinarius that went from 99% pure gold at the height of the Republic to less than 0.1% when the Empire finally fell apart some 500 years later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, the peace you speak of reminds me of Pax Romana.</p>
<p>The legions of Rome are off in the distant edges engaging in small skirmishes with any group that might threaten the cities and the peace of the Empire.  Meanwhile the stupid plebs back home are sedated by the gory games at the Colosseum and reap the benefits from the spoils the army manages to loot and pillage.  All of this is finance by a dinarius that went from 99% pure gold at the height of the Republic to less than 0.1% when the Empire finally fell apart some 500 years later.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 00:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While my sympathies are with your sentiments, you two do realize that the time period we live is the most peaceful period in all of history? And that can be demonstrated by evidence that includes the total number of wars being fought right now, the percentage of the world&#039;s population engaged in armed conflict and the percentage of the world&#039;s population dying due to armed conflict. 

That is not to suggest that I don&#039;t approve of your sentiments, I do. But the comparison to WWI is poor, at best. As is the comparison between Woodrow Wilson and George W. Bush. I think Bush is a very poor president, to say the least. But that doesn&#039;t make him particularly comparable to Wilson, except that they were both fairly awful presidents, overall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While my sympathies are with your sentiments, you two do realize that the time period we live is the most peaceful period in all of history? And that can be demonstrated by evidence that includes the total number of wars being fought right now, the percentage of the world&#8217;s population engaged in armed conflict and the percentage of the world&#8217;s population dying due to armed conflict. </p>
<p>That is not to suggest that I don&#8217;t approve of your sentiments, I do. But the comparison to WWI is poor, at best. As is the comparison between Woodrow Wilson and George W. Bush. I think Bush is a very poor president, to say the least. But that doesn&#8217;t make him particularly comparable to Wilson, except that they were both fairly awful presidents, overall.</p>
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		<title>By: tarran</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hear, hear!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hear, hear!</p>
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