Wash Times = wacko Moonie paper, never taken seriously.

There’s plenty of in-fighting amongst libertarians over what constitutes a “true” libertarian. But I think there’s a large consensus that says Bill Maher isn’t one.

Doctrinal libertarian candidates garnered what percent of the 2006/2004 votes?

If Ron were to run as a Libertarian this year, he’d get between 10-15%.

Would Paul get 10-15% if he had STARTED his run as a (big-L) Libertarian? I think he’s getting media attention as a Republican, and if he doesn’t get the nomination, he could get 10-15% if he went third-party. But I doubt he would have been noticed if he ran as part of the LP without any exposure to all these debates and media that only come along with the two main parties.

Lew Rockwell.com represents one faction of libertarians and I think a strong case can be made that it doesn’t represent the mainstream of the movement.

Does everyone forget that Rockwell and Murray Rothbard were endorsing Pat Buchanan not too long ago ?

State power = less tyranny than we’re getting now.

There is plenty of evidence from American history to argue against that proposition.

Federalism is a Constitutional concept; it doesn’t necessarily have anything to do with individual liberty.

There is no doubt that Paul is being propelled by anti-war sentiment, but last I checked most Libertarians are anti-war. My state LP party, in order to join(unless you want to buy your way in), you have to sign an oath affirming that you don’t believe in the use of force to achieve social or political goals.

Most of these anti-Paul slurs within the Libertarian community are originating from so-called “pro-war libertarians,” a term I find oxymoronic myself. But everyone is free to their own views, however, when you make blanket statements that Paul’s supporters aren’t Libertarian I wonder how keyed in you are either into the Ron Paul movement or the Libertarian movement–as opposed to mere rants from an arm chair blogger.

Winning for a libertarian in this context, especially when starting from such a low base, is making a good showing (say 8 percent). The Paul campaign is the best thing to happen to libertarians in decades. In this respect, he has already “won.” The most realistic goal right now is to libertarianism some strong momentum. Paul has done that.

2nd or 3rd in Nevada and South Carolina would be very interesting.

He will easily clear $12 million in the 4th quarter. That’s beyond my wildest dreams. He’s been shaming reporters from the Wall Street Journal and The New York Times, CNN, Fox News, ABC, MSNBC. He’s drawing street crowds that cheer, CHEER, for dissolving the Federal Reserve.

I don’t know what you’re talking about. Success??!!! You have got to get yourself out of this safe Libertarian armchair analyst position.

When the Federal Government took 5 days to deliver water to the Superdome, and all the politicians lined up in front of the cameras and lied to the public, something fundamental changed. Who’s to say lifting the veil of the MSM’s propagandistic attacks is not a political Katrina? This is Ron Paul Tzu. I think you would be liberated by redefining your ideas of victory.

Ummm

First place is winning.

The true test begins January 8th. And 4th place isn’t winning.