1. The problem is they forgot step one which is to understand thy enemy.
http://www.scotthortonshow.com/2007/09/10/antiwar-radio-michael-scheuer-3/
2. I agree with you on this point but still need some documentation of actual terrorist coming in through our open border.

And i got to my final point and raised to prefectly legitimate arguments

1.how do you fight a physical war with an army,navy and air force against an ideology?

2.And lastly how can they say there thousands of miles away fighting the war on terror and supposedly protecting us when they leave our front door open(borders) they cant stop millions of people coming here illegally and yet they say there protecting us?

No, and its really not George Bush’s policy its the policy of the Military Industrial Complex, something the writers here at the liberty papers think is a conspiracy theory

“You are also claiming that only Ron Paul’s policies will avert disaster” Ya pretty much, name another republican front runner that is gonna take another coarse other than the one the establishment wants.

“by convincing an opponent to see it your way”

Thats not gonna happen so why try? Dude they think the Military Industrial Complex is a conspiracy theory.

The only thing im accusing doug of is being a naive fool who who thinks islamofacists are the greatest threat to this country.

Doug my question to you is, how do you fight a physical war with an army,navy and air force against an ideology?

And lastly how can they say there thousands of miles away fighting the war on terror and supposedly protecting us when they leave our front door open(borders) they cant stop millions of people coming here illegally and yet they say there protecting us?

You are blaming Doug (among others) for George Bush’s policies.

That is pretty moronic.

You are also claiming that only Ron Paul’s policies will avert disaster, but you are not going to waste your time getting people who are on the fence to vote for him.

Either you want Ron Paul to lose (and the U.S. to go through a disaster) or you haven’t really thought through your positions really well.

Or, far more likely, you are one of those guys who cares more about feeling good about really jumping down someone’s throat and would rather do that than to win an argument by convincing an opponent to see it your way. In other words you’d prefer to lose, but feel good doing it.

Much like you accuse Doug of doing. I believe the psychiatrists call it projection.

What that our liberty is in danger?

Why would I convince you guys to vote for Ron Paul, your not gonna vote for him? Why preach to deaf ears?

BTW, I’m sure that Karl Rove is glad that Ron Paul supporters like you are actively pissing off people on the fence about Ron Paul. You’re doing a good job carrying water for all the guys who want to paint Ron Paul as a kook.

You never gave Ron Paul a chance, your interest is the status quo not in liberty, if you loved liberty you would know how much danger it is in.

One more time am I wrong

I have noting to be angry about right?

since 9/11(the day that changed everything)

The erosion of civil liberties. check

The immediate and continual passage of draconian legislation. check

Big Brother. check

Police State. check

The talk and legitimization of giving up liberty for security. check

Fake News. check

Perpetual war. check

Equating dissenters with the enemy. check

Have I forgotten anything?

If you dont think those things are killing our liberty you are a fool, you better recognize a threat when you see one, and if you think Rudy,Thompson,Romney,McCain or Huckabee are gonna set this country on the right track you are gravely mistaken.Tancreado and Hunter dont stand a chance they dont have the money or support, there decent men with good intentions but they wont win

I do not have to justify my stances on the issues and my political beliefs to anyone, most of all you.

However, I am a classical liberal in the tradition of John Locke, Adam Smith, Edmund Burke, Thomas Jefferson, Patrick Henry, James Madison, and Benjamin Franklin. I believe the the sole purpose of government is to protect the life, liberty, and property of its citizens; in that order.

I am not a part of the “patriot movement” and I oppose the militia movement for the simple reasons that I do not agree with them on the issues and I do not believe the situation in this country has gotten bad enough that peaceful change through the ballot box is not possible.

I have not brought up the brothel endorsement except to say in a comment threat that I did not see a problem with reporting it in the media. However, I have criticized Paul for associating with and allowing racists, conspiracy kooks, neo-Confederates, and fascists to associate with him. I will continue to criticize him for this because the associations with these whackos and authoritarians will harm the cause of liberty in the eyes of the American people.

I also will not stop criticizing Ron Paul on the issues I disagree with him on just as I will criticize the other presidential candidates whenever they issue policy proposals I disagree with. On the other hand, I will praise candidates when they do something I support.

Most of all, I will not be silenced by the various wannabe digital Brownshirts that have surrounded the Ron Paul campaign.

Well, considering that back in the 90′s the so-called Patriot Movement was a bunch of conspiracy theory obsessed guys with guns, I’m not quite sure what the definition of a “patriot” is.

As a wise man once said, patriotism is the last refuse of a scoundrel.

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I have noting to be angry about right?

since 9/11(the day that changed everything)

The erosion of civil liberties. check

The immediate and continual passage of draconian legislation. check

Big Brother. check

Police State. check

The talk and legitimization of giving up liberty for security. check

Fake News. check

Perpetual war. check

Equating dissenters with the enemy. check

Have I forgotten anything?
Comment by Max — November 29, 2007 @ 12:19 pm