Comments on: Germany’s War Against Scientology

By: Dr. Aharon Friedman

Dr. Aharon Friedman — Mon, 10 Dec 2007 15:59:57 +0000

The German government is at it again. Now that they cannot prosecute Jews they prosecute Scientology. I am not sure who is next. Maybe muslims, after all they are easy prey these days. I think that the free world, including German citizens, should once and for all make it clear to the German government that religious persecution will not be tolerated if Germany wants to call itself a free country.

By: Oliver S.

Oliver S. — Mon, 10 Dec 2007 08:14:42 +0000

I have left Germany because I was under security observation for my believes and being a member of Scientology. It is not funny to have the police raiding your home and office for several times with no apparent reasons, taking your stuff and try to convince you that this would stop if I would have changed my mind about Scientology. They don’t even know what Scientology is about and nobody is forced to join them as well.

By: somebody

somebody — Mon, 10 Dec 2007 04:45:20 +0000

Omg, guys. If the acts are illegal (like depriving a person of their rights) then prosecute them for it. Don’t ban an entire philosophy. All that does is push it underground.

By: Ron Newman

Ron Newman — Mon, 10 Dec 2007 01:15:21 +0000

Scientology is not a religion. It is a fraudulent scam. When a young woman in Clearwater, Florida, tried to escape this organization, other members took her from her hospital bed and imprisoned her in the basement of Scientology’s headquarters hotel, starving and dehydrating her to death.

By: giovanni

giovanni — Sun, 09 Dec 2007 22:58:51 +0000

I´m a Scientologist since 10 years and I love it.

By: Sharone Lander

Sharone Lander — Sun, 09 Dec 2007 15:49:45 +0000

Scientolgys’ Disconnection practice and consequent splitting up of families is abhorrent.I know this because my family suffered from this.This is just one practice that this cult gets away with in the name of religion.

By: Jeff Molby

Jeff Molby — Sun, 09 Dec 2007 08:52:44 +0000

the CoS is unique in that they swindle

Then convict them of that.

By: uhm

uhm — Sun, 09 Dec 2007 07:30:36 +0000

I hope the US government stays out of it. I don’t care what Germany does.

Who would want to experience the abuse of an enraged authoritarian organization? They picket your house, post libel information about you all over the place, and hire private detectives. Who wants to go through with that?
They picket a guy’s house:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjeS6sNBFqw
BBC Special:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-126281853779690652

Court cases:
http://www.xenu.net/archive/CourtFiles/
FBI files:
http://www.xenu.net/archive/FBI/table.html

By: Drew

Drew — Sun, 09 Dec 2007 07:10:31 +0000

I know its a very bad precedent to set but the CoS is unique in that they swindle and then brainwash their adherents. L. Ron Hubbard offered to sell his brainwashing techniques to the CIA at one point. The CoS deserves no mercy.

By: somebody

somebody — Sun, 09 Dec 2007 06:55:23 +0000

Ah, so all of you want to deny people the freedom of choice whether or not to participate in the CoS. Careful, that’s a trait of authoritarians. If the CoS is committing illegal acts, then investigate it. It’s lazy and tramples on the rights of the innocent to ban things left and right (pun intended).

By: Drew

Drew — Sun, 09 Dec 2007 06:37:57 +0000

They are not trying to ban the religion of Scientologists, just the Church of Scientology organization. Freezone Scientologists would be unaffected by this. The CoS is a very ruthless hybrid of a corporation and a cult that makes slaves of its members by brainwashing and isolation from their former lives. This organization has zero respect for human rights and the rule of law. L. Ron Hubbard’s wife and other high ranking CoS members were busted for committing espionage on the U.S. gov’t. This organization is dangerous and their members often mysteriously die. This isn’t about freedom of religion even tho the CoS is trying to frame it as such. This is about stopping an unethical, dangerous, fascist organization. I applaud the German gov’t move and I hope they go through with it. I hate to say this, but personally I wouldn’t mind too much if they re-opened Auschwitz for some of them.

By: max

max — Sun, 09 Dec 2007 03:19:08 +0000

I don’t think it’s just the lack of financial transparency to its own adherents that’s bothering Germany perhaps as much as Scientology’s written policies that say it’s okay to lie and hurt people who ask for Scientology, Inc. to be responsible for its actions; policies like Fair Game, Disconnection, and all that jumping back and forth across the line of practicing medicine without a license, the aggressive “war” against mental health professionals, and the whole religion-flavored MLM background. Not to mention the goal of world domination, however Pinky and the Brain that may be.

By: Terryeo

Terryeo — Sun, 09 Dec 2007 02:51:26 +0000

Germany’s effort will come to nothing because it is based on false information. The minister’s declaration is based largely on the documents prepared for them, public documents prepared by people with economic interests in keeping other religions out of Germany. Those documents falsely evaluate snippets of the Church’s administrative policy. For example, policy about how administrative posts within the Church are not to be filled democratically, is quoted and evaluated as unsuitable for running a government. “The Church isn’t democratic” is a big complaint. And snippets of the Church’s policy prove its administration isn’t democratic.

By: TanGeng

TanGeng — Sat, 08 Dec 2007 20:11:58 +0000

Doug,

I’m fine if they’re not committing crimes under the umbrella of religion. I’d prosecute them for all of the alleged illegal activities and criminal behavior.

By: uhm

uhm — Sat, 08 Dec 2007 17:16:46 +0000

I don’t like their fair game policy.
http://www.xenu.net/archive/disk/fairgame.htm

It is like defending charities that are funding Bin Laden.