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		<title>By: TanGeng</title>
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		<dc:creator>TanGeng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 01:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Doug,

About the Paul error:
You&#039;re talking about sacrifices by the American people.  There are people on the federal gravy train that will have to sacrifices a lot.  The average American doesn&#039;t see very much of the gravy though.  I&#039;m hoping the farm bill gets axed and then it&#039;ll be the corporate farmers making their sacrifices.


About the rest, it seems like Huckabee survived the debate, but the media&#039;s having a nice time unearthing all his negatives and total lack of foreign policy experience.  It seemed like a hands off debate, and lots of people sounded like Democrats when they stated their positions.  What happened to the Republican Party.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug,</p>
<p>About the Paul error:<br />
You&#8217;re talking about sacrifices by the American people.  There are people on the federal gravy train that will have to sacrifices a lot.  The average American doesn&#8217;t see very much of the gravy though.  I&#8217;m hoping the farm bill gets axed and then it&#8217;ll be the corporate farmers making their sacrifices.</p>
<p>About the rest, it seems like Huckabee survived the debate, but the media&#8217;s having a nice time unearthing all his negatives and total lack of foreign policy experience.  It seemed like a hands off debate, and lots of people sounded like Democrats when they stated their positions.  What happened to the Republican Party.</p>
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		<title>By: UCrawford</title>
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		<dc:creator>UCrawford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 01:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think it&#039;s kind of unrealistic to expect Paul to give the brutally honest answer for the campaign.  I think you&#039;ll struggle to find any successful politician who tells people what they&#039;ll have to give up or sacrifice when he gets elected.  Do I think Ron Paul&#039;s answer was shallow and inaccurate?  Sure.  Do I think his answer means he&#039;s not going to try and gut all those wasteful departments and programs if he&#039;s elected?  Nope...I think he&#039;s just hiding the consequences of his policy from the voters, which is the smart campaigning move.  Guess we&#039;ll see how well that works for him down the road.

That said, it was a pretty blah debate in an otherwise extremely blah presidential race of late.  I&#039;m half-wondering if the voters are even paying attention anymore or if they&#039;ve finally hit their saturation point.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s kind of unrealistic to expect Paul to give the brutally honest answer for the campaign.  I think you&#8217;ll struggle to find any successful politician who tells people what they&#8217;ll have to give up or sacrifice when he gets elected.  Do I think Ron Paul&#8217;s answer was shallow and inaccurate?  Sure.  Do I think his answer means he&#8217;s not going to try and gut all those wasteful departments and programs if he&#8217;s elected?  Nope&#8230;I think he&#8217;s just hiding the consequences of his policy from the voters, which is the smart campaigning move.  Guess we&#8217;ll see how well that works for him down the road.</p>
<p>That said, it was a pretty blah debate in an otherwise extremely blah presidential race of late.  I&#8217;m half-wondering if the voters are even paying attention anymore or if they&#8217;ve finally hit their saturation point.</p>
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		<title>By: james</title>
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		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 00:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To ay ron paul is a one issue man is wrong. if you listen to him he supports the constitution and is a true republican. I like some of the other canidates but they are promising just a carry on of bush. I don&#039;t want this. everyone is looking the other way at what is going on and not at the reality of the trouble we are getting into. I can&#039;t blame people as they are hammered by the news as to what the media wants the presidential race to be about. take a look at what the real issues are, not the ones the media highlights for you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To ay ron paul is a one issue man is wrong. if you listen to him he supports the constitution and is a true republican. I like some of the other canidates but they are promising just a carry on of bush. I don&#8217;t want this. everyone is looking the other way at what is going on and not at the reality of the trouble we are getting into. I can&#8217;t blame people as they are hammered by the news as to what the media wants the presidential race to be about. take a look at what the real issues are, not the ones the media highlights for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 23:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I find it interesting that Alan Keyes was in on this debate. This is the first sighting I have seen of him  since he was Obama&#039;s opponent in the 2006 Illinois senate race.  Now everyone can see why Obama won - I could have won against that idiot.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it interesting that Alan Keyes was in on this debate. This is the first sighting I have seen of him  since he was Obama&#8217;s opponent in the 2006 Illinois senate race.  Now everyone can see why Obama won &#8211; I could have won against that idiot.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Mataconis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Mataconis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 22:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bob,

What part of there was absolutely no substance to this debate don&#039;t you understand ?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob,</p>
<p>What part of there was absolutely no substance to this debate don&#8217;t you understand ?</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Whitman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Whitman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 22:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This reporter, as so many, treats the race as a game, as info-tainment. There is critisism over what the candidates said in relation to the game, but no discussion of policy positives or negatives. Plenty of metaphors from boxing, to baseball; plenty of name calling, but no intelligent substance. No wonder this country is in the state that it is in. A free press is critical to a free people, but, sadly, our national press fails the test by substituting entertainment for analysis. What silliness to refer to the candidates as &quot;moron,&quot; &quot;Neanderthal,&quot; etc? Then, in an alaysis of the debate the &quot;journalist&quot; in question states an opinion about the national electability of candidate Huckabee. Maybe it would have been better if the &quot;journalist&quot; had imbibded the wine, but I doubt it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This reporter, as so many, treats the race as a game, as info-tainment. There is critisism over what the candidates said in relation to the game, but no discussion of policy positives or negatives. Plenty of metaphors from boxing, to baseball; plenty of name calling, but no intelligent substance. No wonder this country is in the state that it is in. A free press is critical to a free people, but, sadly, our national press fails the test by substituting entertainment for analysis. What silliness to refer to the candidates as &#8220;moron,&#8221; &#8220;Neanderthal,&#8221; etc? Then, in an alaysis of the debate the &#8220;journalist&#8221; in question states an opinion about the national electability of candidate Huckabee. Maybe it would have been better if the &#8220;journalist&#8221; had imbibded the wine, but I doubt it.</p>
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		<title>By: A Brooks</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Brooks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 22:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ummm, I know a lot of people aren&#039;t good at math so let me help you out.  We have a 9 Trillion Dollar debt, health care issues, government spending issues on medicare, and social security.  We spent 1 trillion dollars and no it wasn&#039;t all in 1 year.

The war isn&#039;t the major issue in this country, unless of course your talking to Ron Paul.  I do like a lot of what he stands for but he is a 1 issue guy.  At least Ross Perot wiped the floor with nearly every person he debated.  When he was in the debate with Bush 1 and Clinton, most of the debate was Clinton saying, &quot;I agree with Ross.&quot;

Yes we will need to reduce the size of the government, which in turn will make some American&#039;s sacrifice.

&quot;Agree with most everything you said except the part about Ron Paul’s comment on sacrifice. 

We spend almost a TRILLION dollars on overseas policy, so by bringing our troops home and cutting spending overseas, what sacrifice would have to be made here at home?&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ummm, I know a lot of people aren&#8217;t good at math so let me help you out.  We have a 9 Trillion Dollar debt, health care issues, government spending issues on medicare, and social security.  We spent 1 trillion dollars and no it wasn&#8217;t all in 1 year.</p>
<p>The war isn&#8217;t the major issue in this country, unless of course your talking to Ron Paul.  I do like a lot of what he stands for but he is a 1 issue guy.  At least Ross Perot wiped the floor with nearly every person he debated.  When he was in the debate with Bush 1 and Clinton, most of the debate was Clinton saying, &#8220;I agree with Ross.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes we will need to reduce the size of the government, which in turn will make some American&#8217;s sacrifice.</p>
<p>&#8220;Agree with most everything you said except the part about Ron Paul’s comment on sacrifice. </p>
<p>We spend almost a TRILLION dollars on overseas policy, so by bringing our troops home and cutting spending overseas, what sacrifice would have to be made here at home?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: David Wilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 22:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fritz,

You are dead wrong. Music and art may not be the most important subjects in school, and I agree. I wish logic was taught in high school. Auto tech and machine shop are not taught because 1) there is not a demand in the job market like there used to be 2) most training for those jobs occur either in a 2 year technical school, or on the job. Also, math and language are SERIOUS needs in our economy due to the large amount of higher end jobs that globalization has brought us such as business, R&amp;D, Information Technology, etc. Manufacturing has been on the way out for awhile now, and lets not forget that school is for more than just getting jobs; it is important in developing and sustaining a well rounded, educated populace. There are some private schools who specifically focus on vocation, and this is ok. This is why school districts should be in control of curriculum and policy, and not the federal government.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fritz,</p>
<p>You are dead wrong. Music and art may not be the most important subjects in school, and I agree. I wish logic was taught in high school. Auto tech and machine shop are not taught because 1) there is not a demand in the job market like there used to be 2) most training for those jobs occur either in a 2 year technical school, or on the job. Also, math and language are SERIOUS needs in our economy due to the large amount of higher end jobs that globalization has brought us such as business, R&amp;D, Information Technology, etc. Manufacturing has been on the way out for awhile now, and lets not forget that school is for more than just getting jobs; it is important in developing and sustaining a well rounded, educated populace. There are some private schools who specifically focus on vocation, and this is ok. This is why school districts should be in control of curriculum and policy, and not the federal government.</p>
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		<title>By: martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 22:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fritz, that is a really decent point.  I&#039;ve  never even thought of that before.   

Thing is, even if they could make the shirt, they won&#039;t do it for $1 a day and no bathroom breaks, so I guess we&#039;re back to where we started.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fritz, that is a really decent point.  I&#8217;ve  never even thought of that before.   </p>
<p>Thing is, even if they could make the shirt, they won&#8217;t do it for $1 a day and no bathroom breaks, so I guess we&#8217;re back to where we started.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 22:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, the moderator was just awful.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, the moderator was just awful.</p>
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		<title>By: Fritz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fritz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 22:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s funny they talk about bringing back manufacturing jobs, then say we need more scientists and physicists from the educational institutions. Maybe teach life skills and focus less on completely-useless-to-95%-of-the-population studies. Music and art should and are electives, almost completely unfunded. Machine shop and auto tech. are nonexistent. Drafting is often an after school only class. Math and language are 4 year requirements??? No wonder we don&#039;t have manufacturing or skilled trades anymore, no one knows how to do anything. Try to get a custom tailored, USA made shirt. But, thank god for Calculus...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s funny they talk about bringing back manufacturing jobs, then say we need more scientists and physicists from the educational institutions. Maybe teach life skills and focus less on completely-useless-to-95%-of-the-population studies. Music and art should and are electives, almost completely unfunded. Machine shop and auto tech. are nonexistent. Drafting is often an after school only class. Math and language are 4 year requirements??? No wonder we don&#8217;t have manufacturing or skilled trades anymore, no one knows how to do anything. Try to get a custom tailored, USA made shirt. But, thank god for Calculus&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: J Bradford</title>
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		<dc:creator>J Bradford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agree with most everything you said except the part about Ron Paul&#039;s comment on sacrifice.  

We spend almost a TRILLION dollars on overseas policy, so by bringing our troops home and cutting spending overseas, what sacrifice would have to be made here at home?

Familes having their loved ones here instead of abroad?  Is that a sacrifice?

Our troops protecting our own borders instead of Korea&#039;s and Iraq&#039;s?  Is that a sacrifice?

Making our country safer, and less likely to be attacked by terrorists, by removing our troops from their country?  Is that a sacrifice?

Spending our tax money on building our bridges and roads instead of bombing the Middle East and then paying to rebuild the very bridges and roads that we just paid to destroy?  Is that a sacrifice?

Earning some respect back from the rest of the world instead of being mocked and ridiculed for our terrible foreign poliy and our policing of the world?  Is that a sacrifice?

I&#039;m sorry, but I find your statements flawed and offer no substance to back up your claims.  

Ron Paul has the only ideas and ways of stopping our country from going bankrupt and it&#039;s a shame no one gives him any press.  Everyone&#039;s enamoured with Huckabee and his &quot;aw shucks&quot; demeanour.  He is nothing but a smoother-talking George W. Bush.  If you&#039;re happy with the way this country has been run the past 8 years then Huckabee is your man.

If you&#039;re tired of the same old crap from Washington, and tired of seeing our country going downhill, then elect Ron Paul.  He is the ONLY candidate that can get us out of the mess we&#039;re in.  Wake up people.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree with most everything you said except the part about Ron Paul&#8217;s comment on sacrifice.  </p>
<p>We spend almost a TRILLION dollars on overseas policy, so by bringing our troops home and cutting spending overseas, what sacrifice would have to be made here at home?</p>
<p>Familes having their loved ones here instead of abroad?  Is that a sacrifice?</p>
<p>Our troops protecting our own borders instead of Korea&#8217;s and Iraq&#8217;s?  Is that a sacrifice?</p>
<p>Making our country safer, and less likely to be attacked by terrorists, by removing our troops from their country?  Is that a sacrifice?</p>
<p>Spending our tax money on building our bridges and roads instead of bombing the Middle East and then paying to rebuild the very bridges and roads that we just paid to destroy?  Is that a sacrifice?</p>
<p>Earning some respect back from the rest of the world instead of being mocked and ridiculed for our terrible foreign poliy and our policing of the world?  Is that a sacrifice?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry, but I find your statements flawed and offer no substance to back up your claims.  </p>
<p>Ron Paul has the only ideas and ways of stopping our country from going bankrupt and it&#8217;s a shame no one gives him any press.  Everyone&#8217;s enamoured with Huckabee and his &#8220;aw shucks&#8221; demeanour.  He is nothing but a smoother-talking George W. Bush.  If you&#8217;re happy with the way this country has been run the past 8 years then Huckabee is your man.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re tired of the same old crap from Washington, and tired of seeing our country going downhill, then elect Ron Paul.  He is the ONLY candidate that can get us out of the mess we&#8217;re in.  Wake up people.</p>
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