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		<title>By: Jonathan Bostwick</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/01/05/fascism-it-couldnt-happen-here-part-i/#comment-48561</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Bostwick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 01:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jamie:

&quot;The most modern form of American fascism is Neoconservatism.&quot;

After I made the post I smacked myself for missing the obvious. Today&#039;s most common form of fascism, and the word used most often to smash dissent, is bipartisanism.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jamie:</p>
<p>&#8220;The most modern form of American fascism is Neoconservatism.&#8221;</p>
<p>After I made the post I smacked myself for missing the obvious. Today&#8217;s most common form of fascism, and the word used most often to smash dissent, is bipartisanism.</p>
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		<title>By: tkc</title>
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		<dc:creator>tkc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 22:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Give &quot;Three New Deals&quot; by Wolfgang Schivelbusch a read.

Also, a few points from the Nationalist Socialist platform in Germany:

In consideration of the monstrous sacrifice in property and blood that each war demands of the people personal enrichment through a war must be designated as a crime against the people. Therefore we demand the total confiscation of all war profits.
We demand the nationalisation of all (previous) associated industries (trusts).
We demand a division of profits of all heavy industries.
We demand an expansion on a large scale of old age welfare.
We demand the creation of a healthy middle class and its conservation, immediate communalization of the great warehouses and their being leased at low cost to small firms, the utmost consideration of all small firms in contracts with the State, county or municipality.
We demand a land reform suitable to our needs, provision of a law for the free expropriation of land for the purposes of public utility, abolition of taxes on land and prevention of all speculation in land.
The state is to be responsible for a fundamental reconstruction of our whole national education program, to enable every capable and industrious German to obtain higher education and subsequently introduction into leading positions. The plans of instruction of all educational institutions are to conform with the experiences of practical life. The comprehension of the concept of the State must be striven for by the school [Staatsbuergerkunde] as early as the beginning of understanding. We demand the education at the expense of the State of outstanding intellectually gifted children of poor parents without consideration of position or profession.
For the execution of all of this we demand the formation of a strong central power in the Reich. Unlimited authority of the central parliament over the whole Reich and its organizations in general. The forming of state and profession chambers for the execution of the laws made by the Reich within the various states of the confederation. The leaders of the Party promise, if necessary by sacrificing their own lives, to support by the execution of the points set forth above without consideration.


The last point is the corporatism that fascism supported.  Note that it is nothing like a business corporation present in America today.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Give &#8220;Three New Deals&#8221; by Wolfgang Schivelbusch a read.</p>
<p>Also, a few points from the Nationalist Socialist platform in Germany:</p>
<p>In consideration of the monstrous sacrifice in property and blood that each war demands of the people personal enrichment through a war must be designated as a crime against the people. Therefore we demand the total confiscation of all war profits.<br />
We demand the nationalisation of all (previous) associated industries (trusts).<br />
We demand a division of profits of all heavy industries.<br />
We demand an expansion on a large scale of old age welfare.<br />
We demand the creation of a healthy middle class and its conservation, immediate communalization of the great warehouses and their being leased at low cost to small firms, the utmost consideration of all small firms in contracts with the State, county or municipality.<br />
We demand a land reform suitable to our needs, provision of a law for the free expropriation of land for the purposes of public utility, abolition of taxes on land and prevention of all speculation in land.<br />
The state is to be responsible for a fundamental reconstruction of our whole national education program, to enable every capable and industrious German to obtain higher education and subsequently introduction into leading positions. The plans of instruction of all educational institutions are to conform with the experiences of practical life. The comprehension of the concept of the State must be striven for by the school [Staatsbuergerkunde] as early as the beginning of understanding. We demand the education at the expense of the State of outstanding intellectually gifted children of poor parents without consideration of position or profession.<br />
For the execution of all of this we demand the formation of a strong central power in the Reich. Unlimited authority of the central parliament over the whole Reich and its organizations in general. The forming of state and profession chambers for the execution of the laws made by the Reich within the various states of the confederation. The leaders of the Party promise, if necessary by sacrificing their own lives, to support by the execution of the points set forth above without consideration.</p>
<p>The last point is the corporatism that fascism supported.  Note that it is nothing like a business corporation present in America today.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Selene</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/01/05/fascism-it-couldnt-happen-here-part-i/#comment-48542</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Selene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 18:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Or, perhaps, you should see where it goes instead of demanding that I deal with the issues you want dealt with. And why is the history of how our modern state came to be a &quot;masturbatory endeavor&quot;? Or is all history that doesn&#039;t tackle the topics you want to tackle irrelevant?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or, perhaps, you should see where it goes instead of demanding that I deal with the issues you want dealt with. And why is the history of how our modern state came to be a &#8220;masturbatory endeavor&#8221;? Or is all history that doesn&#8217;t tackle the topics you want to tackle irrelevant?</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/01/05/fascism-it-couldnt-happen-here-part-i/#comment-48538</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 18:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cool. I&#039;ll leave you to your masturbatory endeavor.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool. I&#8217;ll leave you to your masturbatory endeavor.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Selene</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/01/05/fascism-it-couldnt-happen-here-part-i/#comment-48537</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Selene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 18:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s my blog post, not yours. If you want to write about the current Administration on your blog, feel free.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s my blog post, not yours. If you want to write about the current Administration on your blog, feel free.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/01/05/fascism-it-couldnt-happen-here-part-i/#comment-48535</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 17:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;This series of entries has nothing to do with the current Administration.&quot;

It should. Fascism has ramped up exponentially under the Bush/Cheney/Chertoff junta.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This series of entries has nothing to do with the current Administration.&#8221;</p>
<p>It should. Fascism has ramped up exponentially under the Bush/Cheney/Chertoff junta.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Selene</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/01/05/fascism-it-couldnt-happen-here-part-i/#comment-48528</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Selene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 15:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jamie, you&#039;re still overlaying what I&#039;m writing with your political viewpoint. This series of entries has nothing to do with the current Administration.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jamie, you&#8217;re still overlaying what I&#8217;m writing with your political viewpoint. This series of entries has nothing to do with the current Administration.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/01/05/fascism-it-couldnt-happen-here-part-i/#comment-48521</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 14:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Jonathan Bostwick:

The most modern form of American fascism is Neoconservatism.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Jonathan Bostwick:</p>
<p>The most modern form of American fascism is Neoconservatism.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/01/05/fascism-it-couldnt-happen-here-part-i/#comment-48520</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 14:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Adam: Your words:

&quot;I’m planning a series discussing Fascism, the origins of the modern American state, and the reality of whether a fascist, authoritarian government, similar to Fascist Italy or Nazi Germany, could happen here.&quot;

In your intro, it seemed that there was some question about &#039;whether&#039; it could happen. I was merely stating that it&#039;s already here.

&quot;don’t imprint your political beliefs on this.&quot;

It&#039;s rather difficult to have a discussion about political history without bringing politics into it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Adam: Your words:</p>
<p>&#8220;I’m planning a series discussing Fascism, the origins of the modern American state, and the reality of whether a fascist, authoritarian government, similar to Fascist Italy or Nazi Germany, could happen here.&#8221;</p>
<p>In your intro, it seemed that there was some question about &#8216;whether&#8217; it could happen. I was merely stating that it&#8217;s already here.</p>
<p>&#8220;don’t imprint your political beliefs on this.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s rather difficult to have a discussion about political history without bringing politics into it.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 05:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jonathan, 

Let me sum up your definition of fascism:

&quot;anyone who disagrees with me.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonathan, </p>
<p>Let me sum up your definition of fascism:</p>
<p>&#8220;anyone who disagrees with me.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Bostwick</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/01/05/fascism-it-couldnt-happen-here-part-i/#comment-48513</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Bostwick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 04:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d say it has a lot to do with &quot;Fascism, the origins of the modern American state, and the reality of whether a fascist, authoritarian government, similar to Fascist Italy or Nazi Germany, could happen here.&quot;

Fascism in America is not something that happened during the New Deal or that will come about because of George W.  Militarism, inflation, the subsidizing and consolidating of industry, the negation of property rights and self determination have been a part of American Politics since the Constitution and has been dominant, with few exceptions, for almost 150 years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d say it has a lot to do with &#8220;Fascism, the origins of the modern American state, and the reality of whether a fascist, authoritarian government, similar to Fascist Italy or Nazi Germany, could happen here.&#8221;</p>
<p>Fascism in America is not something that happened during the New Deal or that will come about because of George W.  Militarism, inflation, the subsidizing and consolidating of industry, the negation of property rights and self determination have been a part of American Politics since the Constitution and has been dominant, with few exceptions, for almost 150 years.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Selene</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/01/05/fascism-it-couldnt-happen-here-part-i/#comment-48511</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Selene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 04:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What does that have to do with the price of tea in china, or this blog post?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does that have to do with the price of tea in china, or this blog post?</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Bostwick</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/01/05/fascism-it-couldnt-happen-here-part-i/#comment-48510</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Bostwick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 03:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Make that &quot;National Greatness Conservatism&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Make that &#8220;National Greatness Conservatism&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Bostwick</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/01/05/fascism-it-couldnt-happen-here-part-i/#comment-48509</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Bostwick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 03:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The ideology behind fascism was not invented in the 1920s.
To borrow Edward Abbey&#039;s line about Neocons, its &quot;as old as Babylon and as evil hell.&quot;

Worship of the State as above the individual and regimentation of industry to the will of the State was called &quot;Fascism&quot; in the 1930s, &quot;Federalism&quot; in the time of Hamilton,  &quot;Unionism&quot; under Lincoln, &quot;Progressivism&quot; at the end of the 19th Century, &quot;The New Deal&quot; during the Depression, and today is known as &quot;National Greatness conversation&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ideology behind fascism was not invented in the 1920s.<br />
To borrow Edward Abbey&#8217;s line about Neocons, its &#8220;as old as Babylon and as evil hell.&#8221;</p>
<p>Worship of the State as above the individual and regimentation of industry to the will of the State was called &#8220;Fascism&#8221; in the 1930s, &#8220;Federalism&#8221; in the time of Hamilton,  &#8220;Unionism&#8221; under Lincoln, &#8220;Progressivism&#8221; at the end of the 19th Century, &#8220;The New Deal&#8221; during the Depression, and today is known as &#8220;National Greatness conversation&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Selene</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/01/05/fascism-it-couldnt-happen-here-part-i/#comment-48508</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Selene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 03:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[thanks for the input John.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for the input John.</p>
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