Comments on: Ron Paul Falls Flat In The “Live Free Or Die” State http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/01/08/ron-paul-falls-flat-in-the-live-free-or-die-state/ Life. Liberty. Property. Defending individual freedom and liberty, one post at a time. Wed, 22 May 2013 18:26:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: Symgharyl http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/01/08/ron-paul-falls-flat-in-the-live-free-or-die-state/#comment-48905 Symgharyl Fri, 11 Jan 2008 02:47:48 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/01/08/ron-paul-falls-flat-in-the-live-free-or-die-state/#comment-48905 By the way, I learned that in MICHIGAN, anyone is allowed(by law) to vote in the Republican Primaries. Independent or otherwise. Pass the word.

]]> By: Timur http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/01/08/ron-paul-falls-flat-in-the-live-free-or-die-state/#comment-48686 Timur Wed, 09 Jan 2008 19:03:23 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/01/08/ron-paul-falls-flat-in-the-live-free-or-die-state/#comment-48686 Also keep in mind that a year ago, the word libertarian was hardly ever used and 99% of the people didn’t even know what it was so there is great progress being made. We just need to be patient.

]]> By: Butler T. Reynolds http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/01/08/ron-paul-falls-flat-in-the-live-free-or-die-state/#comment-48680 Butler T. Reynolds Wed, 09 Jan 2008 17:36:41 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/01/08/ron-paul-falls-flat-in-the-live-free-or-die-state/#comment-48680 What happened?

We are part of a long tail in politics. As will all libertarian ventures, we get caught up in our tunnel vision. We attend meetup groups, troll libertarian web sites, and commune with others like ourselves.

The reality is that there are pant load of people out there who probably cannot even spell libertarianism.

BTR

]]> By: Amealoa http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/01/08/ron-paul-falls-flat-in-the-live-free-or-die-state/#comment-48679 Amealoa Wed, 09 Jan 2008 17:30:17 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/01/08/ron-paul-falls-flat-in-the-live-free-or-die-state/#comment-48679 We shall fight on at the shopping malls, and in the neighborhoods, on the street corners, in the parking lots, at the churches, and homes, and colleges. And we shall not surrender until the day that Leviathan is slain, and freedom so sweet you can taste it on your tongue is realized.
For what is the alternative?
More War, More Taxes, More Corruption, More Poverty, More Enslavement! The five horsemen of the apocalypse. Knock the Rider from his Horse, swallow hard and kill it. It must be done, it shall be done, we have to do it.
Is life so good that we have not our honor, our intellect, our spirit?

]]> By: Timur http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/01/08/ron-paul-falls-flat-in-the-live-free-or-die-state/#comment-48672 Timur Wed, 09 Jan 2008 16:39:35 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/01/08/ron-paul-falls-flat-in-the-live-free-or-die-state/#comment-48672 He has brought libertarian ideas to the attention of millions and moved the libertarian movement further than it has moved in 20 years.

]]> By: FreeStateLives http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/01/08/ron-paul-falls-flat-in-the-live-free-or-die-state/#comment-48667 FreeStateLives Wed, 09 Jan 2008 16:01:40 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/01/08/ron-paul-falls-flat-in-the-live-free-or-die-state/#comment-48667 @Abe:

I think the Free State Project is toast though

Really? The FSP had a huge event, the Liberty Forum with over 500 people attending.
Over 100 people who were part of Operation Live Free or Die are probably going to move to NH within the year, despite the results.

We still have no income tax, We still have no sales tax. We are moving to NH to fight for freedom not because NH is already Free. Plus with only 260ish movers so far you think that we could have done it all? We are just getting started.

]]> By: Doug Mataconis http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/01/08/ron-paul-falls-flat-in-the-live-free-or-die-state/#comment-48665 Doug Mataconis Wed, 09 Jan 2008 15:55:17 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/01/08/ron-paul-falls-flat-in-the-live-free-or-die-state/#comment-48665 Fred said on MSNBC last night that So. Carolina is do-or-die for him. I expect him to drop out soon after that primary.

]]> By: Amy http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/01/08/ron-paul-falls-flat-in-the-live-free-or-die-state/#comment-48664 Amy Wed, 09 Jan 2008 15:27:46 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/01/08/ron-paul-falls-flat-in-the-live-free-or-die-state/#comment-48664 If this is a doom and gloom for Ron Paul, one then can expect Fred to pack it in. Guilliani came ahead of Paul marginally and lost to him in Iowa… did anyone ask Rudy to pack it? 8% in a primary for 3rd party thinking is a huge win. The message must continue. This is not so much about Paul winning as it is about U.S. having our mandate heard. 7 even 3yrs ago these numbers were very different.

People continue to vote for your policy– it’s your duty. This is not the Super Bowl.

]]> By: Jon http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/01/08/ron-paul-falls-flat-in-the-live-free-or-die-state/#comment-48660 Jon Wed, 09 Jan 2008 15:03:50 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/01/08/ron-paul-falls-flat-in-the-live-free-or-die-state/#comment-48660 Everyone you shouldn’t be so quick to give up. You thought this was easy?

Watch this and get ready to fight for your rights.
http://nz.youtube.com/watch?v=MBfmksI_wYY

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/23203
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/23223

RON PAUL REVOLUTION

]]> By: Bob http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/01/08/ron-paul-falls-flat-in-the-live-free-or-die-state/#comment-48653 Bob Wed, 09 Jan 2008 10:16:41 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/01/08/ron-paul-falls-flat-in-the-live-free-or-die-state/#comment-48653 10% & 5th in Iowa, 8% and 5th in NH. The Paul campaign will find out that as the loses pile up the media attention and the money dry up. His campaign is now an educational campaign any faint hope of being competitive is gone.
NH should have killed the myth that straw polls have any meaning. But I’m sure somewhere Buckwheat and Darrell are planning investigations to prove that RP was robbed.

Kevin,
Well Done!

]]> By: Symgharyl http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/01/08/ron-paul-falls-flat-in-the-live-free-or-die-state/#comment-48652 Symgharyl Wed, 09 Jan 2008 07:52:55 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/01/08/ron-paul-falls-flat-in-the-live-free-or-die-state/#comment-48652 what I surmise is this:
Ron Paul has a great following of internet users which is where most of his money comes from. At least I believe this is a safe assumption.
I would also assume that many of those donations are not from registered Republicans. Therefore, the monetary totals he has received cannot equate to the party contributions that others in the Resnublican party have been given.
I know I am not a registered R’can and I have a difficult time convincing myself to join their party just to get Mr. Paul the bid for his party. I will pencil him in instead of Mr Potatohead this year though.

Michigan on the 15th. Convince me to join the R’cans and I’ll be there to vote for him. In my neck of the woods(Belding, MI) I don’t see any signs for any of the other republicans. I see banners and signs for Ron Paul. I get a warm feeling every time I see them.

]]> By: Justin Buist http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/01/08/ron-paul-falls-flat-in-the-live-free-or-die-state/#comment-48651 Justin Buist Wed, 09 Jan 2008 05:32:58 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/01/08/ron-paul-falls-flat-in-the-live-free-or-die-state/#comment-48651

Or maybe…. the people in charge WANT us to believe that Hillary won and that Ron Paul lost. Who would ever know?

I’m pretty sure I could drop 4 hits of LSD and that comment would STILL look insane.

He lost. Again. We’re 0/3 on this one when it comes to Ron Paul having any chance in this election. Maybe if he got 3rd in Iowa, maybe if he got 2nd in New Hampshire would he have a shot, but he didn’t, and he doesn’t. At this point he doesn’t really have a chance at winning any state. Wyoming is chock-full of anti-federal government types. New Hampshire was rife with Ron Paul supporters. He didn’t place in the top 3 in either of them.

I’ll still vote for him when the primary comes in Michigan, but I’ve given up all hope at this point.

]]> By: Abe http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/01/08/ron-paul-falls-flat-in-the-live-free-or-die-state/#comment-48650 Abe Wed, 09 Jan 2008 05:22:35 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/01/08/ron-paul-falls-flat-in-the-live-free-or-die-state/#comment-48650 RP has the money, the people and a decent start in the primary states even though much lower than any of us wanted. I wanted him to win 2nd or 3rd in the Live Free or Die State. I don’t think RP is finished, by a long shot. I think the Free State Project is toast though. So much for the freest state in the Union. The voters chose 100 years of war McCain. How pathetic. RP needs to come out even stronger on the racism smear. As a Hispanic, I’m even more committed to RP’s vision of freedom and equality. I agree with other posters that he needs to stop playing the nice guy. RP’s greatest strength in this fight is the war issue, followed by the economy. Now that Giuliani is polling fourth in Florida, it’s time for the RP to swiftly kick the cash-strapped neo-fascist out of the race. Oh and by the way, the New Republic back in 1927 supported Fascism in Italy. Talk about hypocrisy.

]]> By: Timur http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/01/08/ron-paul-falls-flat-in-the-live-free-or-die-state/#comment-48649 Timur Wed, 09 Jan 2008 05:19:10 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/01/08/ron-paul-falls-flat-in-the-live-free-or-die-state/#comment-48649 Name the last time we had a Woman and an African American running for president?

Real change is possible, even if it may not be immediately felt.

]]> By: Doug Mataconis http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/01/08/ron-paul-falls-flat-in-the-live-free-or-die-state/#comment-48648 Doug Mataconis Wed, 09 Jan 2008 05:14:43 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/01/08/ron-paul-falls-flat-in-the-live-free-or-die-state/#comment-48648 Kevin,

This isn’t the beginning of the end, it’s not even the end of the beginning.

You are correct, it’s the end of the end.

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