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		<title>By: The Liberty Papers &#187;Blog Archive &#187; Illegal Immigrants And Driver&#8217;s Licenses</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/01/16/another-reason-to-sink-real-id/#comment-51309</link>
		<dc:creator>The Liberty Papers &#187;Blog Archive &#187; Illegal Immigrants And Driver&#8217;s Licenses</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 17:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] isn&#8217;t just a theory. As I noted last month, the Department of Homeland Security is proposing that we be required to show identification to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: David Wilson</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/01/16/another-reason-to-sink-real-id/#comment-50051</link>
		<dc:creator>David Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 04:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UCrawford,

Thank you for your response. I agree, the constitution has been under assault for awhile now, and it isn&#039;t going to stop any time soon. Each party points out only the parts of the Constitution that furthers their agenda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UCrawford,</p>
<p>Thank you for your response. I agree, the constitution has been under assault for awhile now, and it isn&#8217;t going to stop any time soon. Each party points out only the parts of the Constitution that furthers their agenda.</p>
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		<title>By: UCrawford</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/01/16/another-reason-to-sink-real-id/#comment-50033</link>
		<dc:creator>UCrawford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 00:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David,

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;The difference between the market and the bureaucracy is that the market is adaptive and ingenuous. They will find a way around it.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

They have...they quit producing drugs with pseudoephedrine (which works well, but which they can&#039;t sell because of the restrictions) and focused on selling drugs with phenylephrine (which doesn&#039;t work, but which can be stocked on shelves because the government has &quot;approved&quot; it).  The free market solution is to provide us with a government-approved placebo (that hasn&#039;t been legislated against mainly because it&#039;s domestically produced and can&#039;t be made into meth) that won&#039;t get them prosecuted by the government even though it doesn&#039;t work.  The end result is that the consumer gets to suffer through his cold until either the government gets rid of the stupid 2005 law or a domestic drug company produces a substitute for pseudoephedrine that can&#039;t be made into meth and can compete against an established product given special protections by the government.

&lt;blockquote&gt;With that said, where does the federal government assume the authority to supersede the right of the states to have their own identifications?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

From Congress, the shitbird in the White House, and his lapdog Chertoff at DHS.  They don&#039;t give a damn about Constitutionality, regardless of who points it out to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;The difference between the market and the bureaucracy is that the market is adaptive and ingenuous. They will find a way around it.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>They have&#8230;they quit producing drugs with pseudoephedrine (which works well, but which they can&#8217;t sell because of the restrictions) and focused on selling drugs with phenylephrine (which doesn&#8217;t work, but which can be stocked on shelves because the government has &#8220;approved&#8221; it).  The free market solution is to provide us with a government-approved placebo (that hasn&#8217;t been legislated against mainly because it&#8217;s domestically produced and can&#8217;t be made into meth) that won&#8217;t get them prosecuted by the government even though it doesn&#8217;t work.  The end result is that the consumer gets to suffer through his cold until either the government gets rid of the stupid 2005 law or a domestic drug company produces a substitute for pseudoephedrine that can&#8217;t be made into meth and can compete against an established product given special protections by the government.</p>
<blockquote><p>With that said, where does the federal government assume the authority to supersede the right of the states to have their own identifications?</p></blockquote>
<p>From Congress, the shitbird in the White House, and his lapdog Chertoff at DHS.  They don&#8217;t give a damn about Constitutionality, regardless of who points it out to them.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Bowen</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/01/16/another-reason-to-sink-real-id/#comment-50032</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Bowen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 00:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anybody know if there is a website that documents the evolution of once-seemingly innocuous legislation that has become pervasively invasive and destructive?  I would not be surprised if the REAL ID turned into something that affected every single part of our lives.  I don&#039;t think the states will have the courage to stand up to the federal government.

As for the meth issue, I don&#039;t understand why people aren&#039;t looking to Washington state as an example.  The state had a bad problem with meth labs and changed its approach to the problem and dramatically reduced the creation and existence of the meth labs.  Of course, it&#039;s still dealing with the inflow of meth from other states and countries, but at least it made a huge dent in its own problem - all without national identification.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anybody know if there is a website that documents the evolution of once-seemingly innocuous legislation that has become pervasively invasive and destructive?  I would not be surprised if the REAL ID turned into something that affected every single part of our lives.  I don&#8217;t think the states will have the courage to stand up to the federal government.</p>
<p>As for the meth issue, I don&#8217;t understand why people aren&#8217;t looking to Washington state as an example.  The state had a bad problem with meth labs and changed its approach to the problem and dramatically reduced the creation and existence of the meth labs.  Of course, it&#8217;s still dealing with the inflow of meth from other states and countries, but at least it made a huge dent in its own problem &#8211; all without national identification.</p>
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		<title>By: David Wilson</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/01/16/another-reason-to-sink-real-id/#comment-50031</link>
		<dc:creator>David Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 00:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The difference between the market and the bureaucracy is that the market is adaptive and ingenuous. They will find a way around it.

With that said, where does the federal government assume the authority to supersede the right of the states to have their own identifications?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The difference between the market and the bureaucracy is that the market is adaptive and ingenuous. They will find a way around it.</p>
<p>With that said, where does the federal government assume the authority to supersede the right of the states to have their own identifications?</p>
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		<title>By: UCrawford</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/01/16/another-reason-to-sink-real-id/#comment-50030</link>
		<dc:creator>UCrawford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 00:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Latter&quot; has two t&#039;s :)

Of course thanks to the government moving the pseudoephedrine behind the counter and inhibiting sales many companies no longer make those drugs with it because they&#039;re unprofitable.  What a rousing success in the War on Drugs...as long as you don&#039;t get sick, that is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Latter&#8221; has two t&#8217;s :)</p>
<p>Of course thanks to the government moving the pseudoephedrine behind the counter and inhibiting sales many companies no longer make those drugs with it because they&#8217;re unprofitable.  What a rousing success in the War on Drugs&#8230;as long as you don&#8217;t get sick, that is.</p>
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		<title>By: Amyz</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/01/16/another-reason-to-sink-real-id/#comment-50027</link>
		<dc:creator>Amyz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 23:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As if the Meth labs operators are getting their drugs at Walgreens or Walmart... 

This is as insane as HIPPA; all personal data is protected, except for the government,DHS, FBI,  and some insurance company watch dog group. I received a letter from a watch dog company in NY suggesting that I contact my Dr. to suggest that they do allergy tests to determine what I am allergic to so I can adjust my lifestyle and reduce/eliminate my need for the prescription Allegra. 

Ahh thanks for your concern.   I&#039;ll forward your letter to the EPA!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As if the Meth labs operators are getting their drugs at Walgreens or Walmart&#8230; </p>
<p>This is as insane as HIPPA; all personal data is protected, except for the government,DHS, FBI,  and some insurance company watch dog group. I received a letter from a watch dog company in NY suggesting that I contact my Dr. to suggest that they do allergy tests to determine what I am allergic to so I can adjust my lifestyle and reduce/eliminate my need for the prescription Allegra. </p>
<p>Ahh thanks for your concern.   I&#8217;ll forward your letter to the EPA!!</p>
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		<title>By: KipEsquire</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/01/16/another-reason-to-sink-real-id/#comment-50021</link>
		<dc:creator>KipEsquire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 23:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cato misread the article. It would apply to behind-the-counter psuedoephedrine, not prescription drugs (i.e., a new tool in the &lt;a href=&quot;http://kipesquire.powerblogs.com/posts/chain_1122576021.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;War on Sniffles&lt;/a&gt;).

I&#039;m of course not defending REAL ID -- just saying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cato misread the article. It would apply to behind-the-counter psuedoephedrine, not prescription drugs (i.e., a new tool in the <a href="http://kipesquire.powerblogs.com/posts/chain_1122576021.shtml" rel="nofollow">War on Sniffles</a>).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m of course not defending REAL ID &#8212; just saying.</p>
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