Comments on: John McCain: The Good, The Bad, And The Really, Really Ugly http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/01/30/john-mccain-the-good-the-bad-and-the-really-really-ugly/ Life. Liberty. Property. Defending individual freedom and liberty, one post at a time. Wed, 22 May 2013 18:26:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: Craig http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/01/30/john-mccain-the-good-the-bad-and-the-really-really-ugly/#comment-50904 Craig Wed, 30 Jan 2008 18:34:03 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/01/30/john-mccain-the-good-the-bad-and-the-really-really-ugly/#comment-50904 McCain, like Bush, is a collectivist, also known as a “communitarian.” Like the Democrats, they believe that the role of government isn’t just to protect life and liberty, but to make us all better people (under their guidance, of course), and to take care of the disadvantaged (as if we couldn’t do that ourselves.)

Interestingly, the National Taxpayers Union says McCain has proposed fewer spending increases than Romney or Huckabee. Here are their numbers, from adding up specific proposals:

Mike Huckabee: + $54.2 billion
Mitt Romney: + $19.5 billion
John McCain: + $6.9 billion
Rudy Giuliani: – $1.4 billion
Ron Paul: – $150.1 billion

I think they underestimate Paul’s cuts, since ending the Iraq war and bringing our troops home from the UK, Korea, Germany, Japan, and Italy would probably save 2 or 3 hundred billion by itself. Ending the Dept. of Education, the Dept. of Energy, and all foreign aid comes in over $100 billion.

Here are the NTU’s numbers on the Democrats:

Barack Obama: + $287.0 billion
Hillary Clinton: + $218.2 billion

No numbers for Edwards. I guess their calculators didn’t go that high.

http://www.ntu.org/main/press.php?PressID=991&org_name=NTUF

]]> By: UCrawford http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/01/30/john-mccain-the-good-the-bad-and-the-really-really-ugly/#comment-50875 UCrawford Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:17:42 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/01/30/john-mccain-the-good-the-bad-and-the-really-really-ugly/#comment-50875 oilnwater,

If I had my druthers we’d keep open immigration and end the GWOT everywhere except the Afghanistan/Pakistan border (and put the emphasis there on capturing/killing bin Laden like Bush was fucking supposed to). You’re right, the GWOT has become a massive joke, and I don’t see a rationale behind hurting our economy (by restricting immigrant labor) to keep supporting it.

]]> By: oilnwater http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/01/30/john-mccain-the-good-the-bad-and-the-really-really-ugly/#comment-50870 oilnwater Wed, 30 Jan 2008 16:54:12 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/01/30/john-mccain-the-good-the-bad-and-the-really-really-ugly/#comment-50870 also accepting of open borders while being a diehard GWOT hawk at the same time. this is actually more of an outright joke. spend a truckload of money propping up society and fighting GWOT in southwest and central Asia, but have a lax immigration policy is a cruel laugh. it really accentuates the joke that is the GWOT.

]]> By: Doug Mataconis http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/01/30/john-mccain-the-good-the-bad-and-the-really-really-ugly/#comment-50869 Doug Mataconis Wed, 30 Jan 2008 16:48:15 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/01/30/john-mccain-the-good-the-bad-and-the-really-really-ugly/#comment-50869

eIt’s been all downhill since 1620.

Those damn Pilgrims ruined it for everybody ;)

]]> By: oilnwater http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/01/30/john-mccain-the-good-the-bad-and-the-really-really-ugly/#comment-50867 oilnwater Wed, 30 Jan 2008 16:45:05 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/01/30/john-mccain-the-good-the-bad-and-the-really-really-ugly/#comment-50867 accepting of open borders and the federal entitlement that is linked with both citizenship and legal and illegal immigration. it’s a no-go when taken in its proper context.

]]> By: UCrawford http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/01/30/john-mccain-the-good-the-bad-and-the-really-really-ugly/#comment-50865 UCrawford Wed, 30 Jan 2008 16:43:56 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/01/30/john-mccain-the-good-the-bad-and-the-really-really-ugly/#comment-50865

Here in Southern California we can see America going away

What, did SoCal finally break off and sink into the ocean? I need to go buy myself some land in Arizona Bay then :)

Oh wait, you mean the immigrants who come here to work and find a better life. Yeah, rotten immigrants. Worst thing that ever happened to this country was open borders that allowed that Pilgrim filth in. It’s been all downhill since 1620.

]]> By: UCrawford http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/01/30/john-mccain-the-good-the-bad-and-the-really-really-ugly/#comment-50864 UCrawford Wed, 30 Jan 2008 16:40:57 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/01/30/john-mccain-the-good-the-bad-and-the-really-really-ugly/#comment-50864 One of the few things I find good about McCain is his acceptance of more open borders. Of course, I disagree with him on just about everything else (Iraq, free speech, campaign finance, the MCA, executive power) so I’m still not voting for him.

]]> By: Rob http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/01/30/john-mccain-the-good-the-bad-and-the-really-really-ugly/#comment-50859 Rob Wed, 30 Jan 2008 16:27:30 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/01/30/john-mccain-the-good-the-bad-and-the-really-really-ugly/#comment-50859 I will NEVER vote for McAmnesty. Here in Southern California we can see America going away… I spent a lot of time on the phone to defeat McAmnesty and his shamnisty bill. I am a conservative that would rather see a demoncrat in office than John McAmnesty! McCain?? NEVER!

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