Comments on: No Senator, How The NFL Runs Itself Is Not The Business Of Congress http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/02/01/no-senator-how-the-nfl-runs-itself-is-not-the-business-of-congress/ Life. Liberty. Property. Defending individual freedom and liberty, one post at a time. Wed, 08 Feb 2012 17:04:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: geo http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/02/01/no-senator-how-the-nfl-runs-itself-is-not-the-business-of-congress/#comment-51174 geo Sat, 02 Feb 2008 02:59:46 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/02/01/no-senator-how-the-nfl-runs-itself-is-not-the-business-of-congress/#comment-51174 Actually how the NFL works IS the business of Congress becuase the NFL has been given a gift from the government - a special exemption from monopoly rules. this allows the NFL to have an otherwise illegal monopoly in football int he USA. since they get this special privilege from the government and do most of their exhibitions in government funded stadiums - what they do and how they do it is DEFINITELY government's (and thus our) business. http://www.vivzizi.com Actually how the NFL works IS the business of Congress becuase the NFL has been given a gift from the government – a special exemption from monopoly rules.
this allows the NFL to have an otherwise illegal monopoly in football int he USA.

since they get this special privilege from the government and do most of their exhibitions in government funded stadiums – what they do and how they do it is DEFINITELY government’s (and thus our) business.

http://www.vivzizi.com

]]> By: asdf http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/02/01/no-senator-how-the-nfl-runs-itself-is-not-the-business-of-congress/#comment-51170 asdf Sat, 02 Feb 2008 01:19:49 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/02/01/no-senator-how-the-nfl-runs-itself-is-not-the-business-of-congress/#comment-51170 >If something like that requires an anti-trust exemption it just proves to me how assinine the antitrust laws really are. Every single corporation that provides a product coming together to negotiate price as one sounds EXACTLY like what anti-trust laws are meant to prevent against. And the NFL does media contract scenario sounds exactly like that. You feel strongly that they should not be subject to that legislation, and because this is a unique case that fits into the anti-trust mold, they get an exemption. >If something like that requires an anti-trust exemption it just proves to me how assinine the antitrust laws really are.

Every single corporation that provides a product coming together to negotiate price as one sounds EXACTLY like what anti-trust laws are meant to prevent against. And the NFL does media contract scenario sounds exactly like that.

You feel strongly that they should not be subject to that legislation, and because this is a unique case that fits into the anti-trust mold, they get an exemption.

]]> By: Doug Mataconis http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/02/01/no-senator-how-the-nfl-runs-itself-is-not-the-business-of-congress/#comment-51157 Doug Mataconis Fri, 01 Feb 2008 20:47:01 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/02/01/no-senator-how-the-nfl-runs-itself-is-not-the-business-of-congress/#comment-51157 Trumpetbob, A quick Google search lead me to some information that indicates that the NFL has an antitrust exemption solely to allow it to negotiate it's media contracts as a collective entities rather than having to have each of the 32 teams negotiate deals individually. If something like that requires an anti-trust exemption it just proves to me how assinine the antitrust laws really are. Trumpetbob,

A quick Google search lead me to some information that indicates that the NFL has an antitrust exemption solely to allow it to negotiate it’s media contracts as a collective entities rather than having to have each of the 32 teams negotiate deals individually.

If something like that requires an anti-trust exemption it just proves to me how assinine the antitrust laws really are.

]]> By: Doug Mataconis http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/02/01/no-senator-how-the-nfl-runs-itself-is-not-the-business-of-congress/#comment-51156 Doug Mataconis Fri, 01 Feb 2008 20:44:48 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/02/01/no-senator-how-the-nfl-runs-itself-is-not-the-business-of-congress/#comment-51156 <blockquote>Actually, the NFL does not have an anti-trust exemption. I remember in my old business law class whem I was corrected when I said sports leagues. Only Major League Baseball has an exemption; the other leagues just haven’t been targeted.</blockquote> That's my understanding too, but what are facts to Senator Specter ?

Actually, the NFL does not have an anti-trust exemption. I remember in my old business law class whem I was corrected when I said sports leagues. Only Major League Baseball has an exemption; the other leagues just haven’t been targeted.

That’s my understanding too, but what are facts to Senator Specter ?

]]> By: trumpetbob15 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/02/01/no-senator-how-the-nfl-runs-itself-is-not-the-business-of-congress/#comment-51154 trumpetbob15 Fri, 01 Feb 2008 20:42:30 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/02/01/no-senator-how-the-nfl-runs-itself-is-not-the-business-of-congress/#comment-51154 Actually, the NFL does not have an anti-trust exemption. I remember in my old business law class whem I was corrected when I said sports leagues. Only Major League Baseball has an exemption; the other leagues just haven't been targeted. (By the way, I am not a lawyer, just repeating what I was taught in my undergraduate business program so if I was taught the wrong information, please don't hesitate to correct me.) Actually, the NFL does not have an anti-trust exemption. I remember in my old business law class whem I was corrected when I said sports leagues. Only Major League Baseball has an exemption; the other leagues just haven’t been targeted. (By the way, I am not a lawyer, just repeating what I was taught in my undergraduate business program so if I was taught the wrong information, please don’t hesitate to correct me.)

]]> By: Doug Mataconis http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/02/01/no-senator-how-the-nfl-runs-itself-is-not-the-business-of-congress/#comment-51151 Doug Mataconis Fri, 01 Feb 2008 20:38:15 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/02/01/no-senator-how-the-nfl-runs-itself-is-not-the-business-of-congress/#comment-51151 Dale, No I don't. How does the antitrust exemption give Congress the right to regulate the internal workings of the NFL ? Dale,

No I don’t. How does the antitrust exemption give Congress the right to regulate the internal workings of the NFL ?

]]> By: Dale http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/02/01/no-senator-how-the-nfl-runs-itself-is-not-the-business-of-congress/#comment-51150 Dale Fri, 01 Feb 2008 20:36:15 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/02/01/no-senator-how-the-nfl-runs-itself-is-not-the-business-of-congress/#comment-51150 "The N.F.L. has a very preferred status in our country with their antitrust exemption." You have to address whether antitrust laws are constitutional before you can declare the Feds don't have an interest in how the NFL is run. “The N.F.L. has a very preferred status in our country with their antitrust exemption.”

You have to address whether antitrust laws are constitutional before you can declare the Feds don’t have an interest in how the NFL is run.

]]> By: Doug Mataconis http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/02/01/no-senator-how-the-nfl-runs-itself-is-not-the-business-of-congress/#comment-51149 Doug Mataconis Fri, 01 Feb 2008 20:29:06 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/02/01/no-senator-how-the-nfl-runs-itself-is-not-the-business-of-congress/#comment-51149 U.C., I don't disagree, I just meant to say that Specter has a history of stupid stuff like this so in some sense I'm not entirely surprised. U.C.,

I don’t disagree, I just meant to say that Specter has a history of stupid stuff like this so in some sense I’m not entirely surprised.

]]> By: UCrawford http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/02/01/no-senator-how-the-nfl-runs-itself-is-not-the-business-of-congress/#comment-51148 UCrawford Fri, 01 Feb 2008 20:25:37 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/02/01/no-senator-how-the-nfl-runs-itself-is-not-the-business-of-congress/#comment-51148 Doug, I have no interest in being fair to the other Republican senators. They've contributed greatly to the sad state of affairs our President has put us into so fuck 'em. As far as I'm concerned Arlen Specter is their poster child. Heck, it's gotten to the point that in my own state where I don't even care who runs against Sam Brownback (our own Republican authoritarian Jesus freak in the Senate) in the 2010 election. Democrat, socialist, cadaver, Fred Phelps...I'm voting for whoever's got the best chance of taking the sonofabitch out of office. Doug,

I have no interest in being fair to the other Republican senators. They’ve contributed greatly to the sad state of affairs our President has put us into so fuck ‘em. As far as I’m concerned Arlen Specter is their poster child.

Heck, it’s gotten to the point that in my own state where I don’t even care who runs against Sam Brownback (our own Republican authoritarian Jesus freak in the Senate) in the 2010 election. Democrat, socialist, cadaver, Fred Phelps…I’m voting for whoever’s got the best chance of taking the sonofabitch out of office.

]]> By: Doug Mataconis http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/02/01/no-senator-how-the-nfl-runs-itself-is-not-the-business-of-congress/#comment-51147 Doug Mataconis Fri, 01 Feb 2008 20:13:57 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/02/01/no-senator-how-the-nfl-runs-itself-is-not-the-business-of-congress/#comment-51147 U.C., To be fair to the other Republican Senators, Arlen Specter has been an idiot for decades. U.C.,

To be fair to the other Republican Senators, Arlen Specter has been an idiot for decades.

]]> By: UCrawford http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/02/01/no-senator-how-the-nfl-runs-itself-is-not-the-business-of-congress/#comment-51146 UCrawford Fri, 01 Feb 2008 20:12:45 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/02/01/no-senator-how-the-nfl-runs-itself-is-not-the-business-of-congress/#comment-51146 Actually, the NFL's destruction of the tapes made sense once Peter King explained it on "Inside the NFL". The NFL had no evidence that the Patriots were doing anything more than what the tapes showed, so they pretty much had to take Belichick's word that he'd turned over all materials. By destroying all copies of the tapes they now know that if any other sideline tapes show up either Belichick was withholding information or he's continuing to copy and they can come down with much harsher penalties. I thought it was a smart move, although the NFL did a terrible job of explaining it. <blockquote>The N.F.L. has a very preferred status in our country with their antitrust exemption. The American people are entitled to be sure about the integrity of the game. It’s analogous to the C.I.A. destruction of tapes. Or any time you have records destroyed</blockquote> This is the part that really pissed me off, though. A Republican senator is on record as saying that a tape of borderline cheating in a sporting event is analogous to a Republican president having detainees tortured in violation of their civil rights and destroying the evidence so his administration can't be prosecuted for war crimes. Really Senator? You think that affecting a point spread is morally equivalent to the most powerful elected official in the land deciding that he can do whatever the hell he wants? Especially since oversight of the President is your fucking job according to the Constitution and oversight of a sports league is not? No wonder the GOP is so fucked up. Retire, you old piece of shit and go to wherever it is senile useless hacks go while they wait to die. In fact, here are a few suggestions for you: http://www.polosbastards.com/artman/publish/top_ten_2005.shtml Actually, the NFL’s destruction of the tapes made sense once Peter King explained it on “Inside the NFL”. The NFL had no evidence that the Patriots were doing anything more than what the tapes showed, so they pretty much had to take Belichick’s word that he’d turned over all materials. By destroying all copies of the tapes they now know that if any other sideline tapes show up either Belichick was withholding information or he’s continuing to copy and they can come down with much harsher penalties. I thought it was a smart move, although the NFL did a terrible job of explaining it.

The N.F.L. has a very preferred status in our country with their antitrust exemption. The American people are entitled to be sure about the integrity of the game. It’s analogous to the C.I.A. destruction of tapes. Or any time you have records destroyed

This is the part that really pissed me off, though. A Republican senator is on record as saying that a tape of borderline cheating in a sporting event is analogous to a Republican president having detainees tortured in violation of their civil rights and destroying the evidence so his administration can’t be prosecuted for war crimes. Really Senator? You think that affecting a point spread is morally equivalent to the most powerful elected official in the land deciding that he can do whatever the hell he wants? Especially since oversight of the President is your fucking job according to the Constitution and oversight of a sports league is not? No wonder the GOP is so fucked up. Retire, you old piece of shit and go to wherever it is senile useless hacks go while they wait to die. In fact, here are a few suggestions for you:

http://www.polosbastards.com/artman/publish/top_ten_2005.shtml

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