I don’t know about his father, but Peter Schiff made anyone who listened to him a ridculous amount of money, by urging people to buy gold, get out of the dollar, and get out of the housing well before the subrpime meltdown

Well, I predicted the housing meltdown in 2005 and was urging my friends and neighbors to sell ahead of it too. That was pretty much commonsense, not brilliance, in my opinion. Predicting something predictable doesn’t make someone a genius.

Nick:

I have mixed opinions on the kookish fringe that supports RP. I can’t deny they help bring attention to his campaign, but they give the MSM and other candidates a ready reason to dismiss RP and by extension libertarianism.

Exactly

Thomas Wilkinson:

I can’t believe you people and Doug is the worst. Now I know why I don’t read this site anymore.

Well, you are actually reading it right now.

I’m still having a hard time believing the outright slander in this article.

Show the slander and I’m sure Doug will retract it.

I consider Peter Schiff an economic genius and the fact that you guys would actually disparage Paul for hiring Peter is nothing short of astonishing. Try actually listening to Peter’s commentary on the markets and economics before you accuse him of being a conspiracy theorist. Yes, I know who Irwin Schiff is and no, I don’t give a crap he’s Peter’s Dad.

Peter Schiff is an economic advisor. He runs an investment company. He doesn’t tell people the income tax is illegal. He doesn’t tell them not to pay their taxes. He doesn’t believe in conspiracy theories. He pays taxes himself. He gives economic advice and he manages people’s money. He has made anyone who follows his advice a killing the past 6 years and no that doesn’t include me.

I’m still having a hard time believing the outright slander in this article.

Schiff has been right on economics to the benefit of his customers. He had been warning of the housing collapse for years on numerous TV appearances and no one listened. He warned of inflation, which we are now seeing as commodity prices have skyrocketed, as have the values of all major currencies with respect to the dollar. He was saying that US stocks were in a bear market for years, despite meaningless nominal highs.

The man understands economics. That is why he was hired. It only figures that he would be labeled as “crazy” just like Ron Paul. These days, anyone who understands economics is considered crazy or kooky. Nevermind the kookiness of fiat money and endless debt that Schiff continuously points out. Why? Because the guy that points out these problems is the son of a tax protester (gasp).

All of that aside, I file and pay because if I don’t, the government will lock me away or kill me. That is the reality we face and each of us must decide if allowing armed robbery is just part of the price we pay to live here or if we want to take a stand and say NO MORE!

Of course all of the courts are going to do everything in their power to refute any claims that the tax is illegal, it is in their best interest to do so. Would you tell your boss he is a lying criminal and deserves to be shoot?

So, I am a firm believer that any and all taxation is illegal and immoral, there is no difference between a government thug with a gun robbing you or a private citizen. I pay because I don’t see a way out of it that doesn’t include my imprisionment or death.

Thanks for quoting the constitution and the US Code that shows that paying income tax is required. Altho it didn’t seem to stop the kooks from repeating the same questions from the tax conspiracy theory film.

If any of them out there are open minded enough to consider opposing viewpoints, it’s quite thourughy debunkd here: http://evans-legal.com/dan/tpfaq.html

(it’s also the first hit in google for tax protester – in case you had done any research into the claims you’re making.)

If you still have objections, please note, that even if any of these arguments was legitimate and a court found it so, it would be quite easy for congress to modify the law to count money bartered for labor as income, or whatever silly objections you have.

I have mixed opinions on the kookish fringe that supports RP. I can’t deny they help bring attention to his campaign, but they give the MSM and other candidates a ready reason to dismiss RP and by extension libertarianism.

Doug, you would do yourself well if you based your opinion on Paul Schiff, not his father and what he has done.

This just reeks of elitism!

Well, convicting someone on fraud and conspiracy charges isn’t easy to begin with. Obviously, the jury believed that while Snipes’ idea that he had no legal obligation to pay taxes were wrong (hence the conviction on failure to file), that belief was genuine which means that there was no conscious effort to defraud the government.

Yeah, three misdemeanors. He got off on the charges that mattered.

But he was convicted of failure to file income tax returns I noticed :)

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/02/01/snipes.verdict/index.html

That’s what the bloodsuckers get when they fuck with Blade. In your face, Doug!!! :)