Comments on: Are The Cubans Drinking That Much Chardonnay? http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/02/04/are-the-cubans-drinking-that-much-chardonnay/ Life. Liberty. Property. Defending individual freedom and liberty, one post at a time. Wed, 08 Feb 2012 17:04:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Nitroadict http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/02/04/are-the-cubans-drinking-that-much-chardonnay/#comment-51367 Nitroadict Tue, 05 Feb 2008 12:05:24 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/02/04/are-the-cubans-drinking-that-much-chardonnay/#comment-51367 Well, seeing how Coca Cola made Fanta in Nazi Germany, the lack of trade with Cuba just seems like funny stuff to me. Well, seeing how Coca Cola made Fanta in Nazi Germany, the lack of trade with Cuba just seems like funny stuff to me.

]]> By: Doug Mataconis http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/02/04/are-the-cubans-drinking-that-much-chardonnay/#comment-51342 Doug Mataconis Tue, 05 Feb 2008 02:48:38 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/02/04/are-the-cubans-drinking-that-much-chardonnay/#comment-51342 I've got to agree. We sold stuff to the Soviets during the Cold War, why shouldn't we sell stuff to the Cubans ? I’ve got to agree.

We sold stuff to the Soviets during the Cold War, why shouldn’t we sell stuff to the Cubans ?

]]> By: Jeff Molby http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/02/04/are-the-cubans-drinking-that-much-chardonnay/#comment-51341 Jeff Molby Tue, 05 Feb 2008 01:51:50 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/02/04/are-the-cubans-drinking-that-much-chardonnay/#comment-51341 Are you guys forgetting the "unseen"? A dictator, no matter how brutal, cannot maintain power over a country united against him. The key for Castro (and our government as well) is to make sure there's plenty of disagreement as to the source of the common man's problems. The embargo makes it easy for Castro to shift the blame to us. Are you guys forgetting the “unseen”?

A dictator, no matter how brutal, cannot maintain power over a country united against him. The key for Castro (and our government as well) is to make sure there’s plenty of disagreement as to the source of the common man’s problems.

The embargo makes it easy for Castro to shift the blame to us.

]]> By: Henry Gomez http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/02/04/are-the-cubans-drinking-that-much-chardonnay/#comment-51339 Henry Gomez Tue, 05 Feb 2008 00:44:38 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/02/04/are-the-cubans-drinking-that-much-chardonnay/#comment-51339 Machete has it right. Free trade with Cuba might help bring freedom to that island if the trade were with private entities on the island. But the Cuban government is the only entity legally allowed to trade with foreign companies. The answer to who buys in Cuba is state owned, state run "companies" and much of the food and yes wine is used used in the tourist sector which is managed and controlled by the Cuban military. Until Cuba liberalizes its economy, allowing for private property and private enterprise lifting the embargo accomplishes nothing except enriching government officials in the "pass-through" system that is essentially perverse government controlled trickle down. Machete has it right. Free trade with Cuba might help bring freedom to that island if the trade were with private entities on the island. But the Cuban government is the only entity legally allowed to trade with foreign companies. The answer to who buys in Cuba is state owned, state run “companies” and much of the food and yes wine is used used in the tourist sector which is managed and controlled by the Cuban military. Until Cuba liberalizes its economy, allowing for private property and private enterprise lifting the embargo accomplishes nothing except enriching government officials in the “pass-through” system that is essentially perverse government controlled trickle down.

]]> By: Orlando (machete) http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/02/04/are-the-cubans-drinking-that-much-chardonnay/#comment-51335 Orlando (machete) Tue, 05 Feb 2008 00:22:50 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/02/04/are-the-cubans-drinking-that-much-chardonnay/#comment-51335 How exactly do you propose to trade with the Cuban people while bypassing the government? Cubans can't fart without fearing that the police may interpret it as “pre-criminal social dangerousness” (actual punishable offense, usually reserved for those who may be thinking anything negative about castro and his socialist dictatorship). The government has its evil fingers in everything and so I ask in all seriousness as an avid subscriber to this blog, how exactly do you propose this? After all, it was castro who drew first blood, so to speak, when he stole all U.S. businesses on the island. *All* the Cuban government has to do is end its apartheid and human rights abuses, release its political prisoners, hold a legitimate election (with opposition candidates and no threat of violence with regards to the vote), and the U.S. will come to the table. I agree a free market with free trade can heal many wounds, but fully lifting the embargo (after all, the U.S. freely trades food and medicines that theoretically should trickle down to the people) will only truly result with free-trade in one direction. How exactly do you propose to trade with the Cuban people while bypassing the government?

Cubans can’t fart without fearing that the police may interpret it as “pre-criminal social dangerousness” (actual punishable offense, usually reserved for those who may be thinking anything negative about castro and his socialist dictatorship). The government has its evil fingers in everything and so I ask in all seriousness as an avid subscriber to this blog, how exactly do you propose this?

After all, it was castro who drew first blood, so to speak, when he stole all U.S. businesses on the island. *All* the Cuban government has to do is end its apartheid and human rights abuses, release its political prisoners, hold a legitimate election (with opposition candidates and no threat of violence with regards to the vote), and the U.S. will come to the table.

I agree a free market with free trade can heal many wounds, but fully lifting the embargo (after all, the U.S. freely trades food and medicines that theoretically should trickle down to the people) will only truly result with free-trade in one direction.

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