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	<title>Comments on: Superdelegates And The 17th Amendment</title>
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		<title>By: Wulf</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/02/18/superdelegates-and-the-17th-amendment/#comment-52513</link>
		<dc:creator>Wulf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 02:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good article, Brad.  A month ago I was cynical enough that my comment here would be to amend something you said:  &lt;em&gt;The superdelegates should view such things as the preferences revealed by the popular vote as only one aspect in their decision. Other crucial aspects to consider would be...&lt;/em&gt;
...pork, pork, and favors granted, such as Bill&#039;s promise to bring in a million dollars at a fundraiser when that superdelegate is up for reelection back home.

But now, I agree entirely with what gij718 says.  The Democrats are the closest thing America has to a Populist Party, which means that yes, for the health of the party, they really do have to abide by the popular vote.  To overturn that would be devastating to the future of the party.  The young vote and the black vote would be gone.  Superdelegates would have &quot;selected not elected&quot; banners following them for years.

It would be healthier to let Obama lose to McCain in November than to have him lose to Clinton in August.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article, Brad.  A month ago I was cynical enough that my comment here would be to amend something you said:  <em>The superdelegates should view such things as the preferences revealed by the popular vote as only one aspect in their decision. Other crucial aspects to consider would be&#8230;</em><br />
&#8230;pork, pork, and favors granted, such as Bill&#8217;s promise to bring in a million dollars at a fundraiser when that superdelegate is up for reelection back home.</p>
<p>But now, I agree entirely with what gij718 says.  The Democrats are the closest thing America has to a Populist Party, which means that yes, for the health of the party, they really do have to abide by the popular vote.  To overturn that would be devastating to the future of the party.  The young vote and the black vote would be gone.  Superdelegates would have &#8220;selected not elected&#8221; banners following them for years.</p>
<p>It would be healthier to let Obama lose to McCain in November than to have him lose to Clinton in August.</p>
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		<title>By: gij718</title>
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		<dc:creator>gij718</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 22:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If the Obama wins the primary and populous vote and the super delegates award it to Hillary then they will have assured McCain the victory. The young, independant and African-Americans will probably stay home and there aren&#039;t enough women to elect Hillary or who would support such a theft. Even Sen. Obama could not convince them to turn out for Hillary.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the Obama wins the primary and populous vote and the super delegates award it to Hillary then they will have assured McCain the victory. The young, independant and African-Americans will probably stay home and there aren&#8217;t enough women to elect Hillary or who would support such a theft. Even Sen. Obama could not convince them to turn out for Hillary.</p>
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		<title>By: Flingcom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flingcom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some folks are beginning to speculate that the delegate deadlock may lead to Al Gore being brought in on the second ballot to “save” the Party. Now THAT would be interesting politics. And spell disaster for the Democrats too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some folks are beginning to speculate that the delegate deadlock may lead to Al Gore being brought in on the second ballot to “save” the Party. Now THAT would be interesting politics. And spell disaster for the Democrats too.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike O</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/02/18/superdelegates-and-the-17th-amendment/#comment-52468</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 13:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good post. But I imagine that if Obama is significantly ahead after the last primary (or even some time before that) the superdelegates will see that it would be in the interests of the party to support him. It would be extremely hard to argue that the interests of the party would be served by overturning a significant lead in delegates, states and votes. What they shouldn&#039;t do, of course, is feel obliged to vote for Clinton because of her husband&#039;s standing in the party (he&#039;s not the candidate after all), or because of the fear of retribution. I have a feeling they&#039;re going to make the right choice (earlier than we think), if only to head off Hillary&#039;s threat to fight to seat the Florida and Michigan delegates, which would really tear the party apart.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post. But I imagine that if Obama is significantly ahead after the last primary (or even some time before that) the superdelegates will see that it would be in the interests of the party to support him. It would be extremely hard to argue that the interests of the party would be served by overturning a significant lead in delegates, states and votes. What they shouldn&#8217;t do, of course, is feel obliged to vote for Clinton because of her husband&#8217;s standing in the party (he&#8217;s not the candidate after all), or because of the fear of retribution. I have a feeling they&#8217;re going to make the right choice (earlier than we think), if only to head off Hillary&#8217;s threat to fight to seat the Florida and Michigan delegates, which would really tear the party apart.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Selene</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/02/18/superdelegates-and-the-17th-amendment/#comment-52467</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Selene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 13:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some folks are beginning to speculate that the delegate deadlock may lead to Al Gore being brought in on the second ballot to &quot;save&quot; the Party. Now THAT would be interesting politics. And spell disaster for the Democrats too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some folks are beginning to speculate that the delegate deadlock may lead to Al Gore being brought in on the second ballot to &#8220;save&#8221; the Party. Now THAT would be interesting politics. And spell disaster for the Democrats too.</p>
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