Okay, so McCarthy might not have been a Communist. He was just a hack politician and a drunk.

It almost makes you wonder if that wasn’t his plan all along ;)

I believe that Welch and his crackpot minions also said that President Eisenhower of all people was a Communist agent.

The guy was a nut. If he was alive today, he’d be wearing a tinfoil hat and still eating the rations he saved for Y2k

Let’s give him [Patrick Welch] benefit of the doubt, and assume he means “American, patriotic Communists”, and not “agents’ of foreign governments Communists.”

That’s not “the benefit of the doubt”. It’s simply untrue. He meant that our government was controlled by agents of the ComIntern.

By the way, Communism is Socialism. You have bought into socialist thinking if you distinguish between them.

In 1958, he says the US Government was under “operational control” of Communists.

Let’s give him benefit of the doubt, and assume he means “American, patriotic Communists”, and not “agents’ of foreign governments Communists.”

Fast forward to 1969 and the ‘Grate’ Society. In what way is this not (C/c)ommunism? Graduated taxation steals more from those producers who make more (from each according to his means) and various welfare programs (food, housing, medical care, general assistance) gives to those who produce little or nothing (to each according to his needs.)

Regulations remove control of private property under the guise of anti-racism and health. And the Federal government begins spying on citizens at all levels.

It looks like communisim to me.

Robert Welch was correct, and Buckley was a (f/t)ool. The scorn and derision tactic is still used today to draw attention away from topics that people don’t want to discuss, whether it’s the federal reserve’s debasement of the currency (He’s a gold-bug – burn him) or the true facts of 9/11 (I tend towards the incompetence theory myself, rather than the false-flag theory.)

Even today, the Republican party promotes runaway spending and increased welfare (only they give it to corporations and elderly rather than individuals and children.)

The US government is effectively Socialist, if not out-right communist in it’s effect. The fact that we have elections is totally irrelevant to the economic process. And while people are still generally free to choose their profession, this is changing from the bottom up (google: “school to work” “goals 2000″ “Mark Anderson” “Hillary Clinton”)

I think you said it best. Putting all your eggs in one basket by putting all your faith in one candidate is never a good idea. If you stay involved in the process afterwards and don’t get discouraged by the losses, eventually you realize that by staying engaged and working within the system (by which I mean working with others to achieve compromise instead of preaching) you can bring about some positive changes…more incremental, but ultimately longer-lasting than just electing one guy to the highest political office in the land.

One of the best things RP followers can do now, is too accept that RP?is as fallible as any one else, to not ignore what others think about him, and to not ignore the mounting evidence concerning certain controversies of the campaign (race-bating, rockwell ghost-writing, etc.)

RP followers should do the correct thing by taking the ‘loss’ in stride and taking a long-term approach towards getting things done. They should also engage in intelligent and thoughtful debate with people outside of the RP?following / campaign, and learn why the campaign itself failed. Stay awake, stay alert; but also stay open-minded and flexible.

RP?followers would do themselves justice by not giving up being involved in politics. But they will not be able to get anything done without coming terms with reality. Blind idealism based upon misinformed conceptions is going to keep you blind.

I will have no sympathy for any RP followers who decide, “welp, that was fun while it lasted, time to go home now.” I will have sympathy, perhaps even respect, for those who move on from being Paulstinians, and continue the learning process; whether that entails Libertarianism, real world politics, activism, all of the above, etc.

Stay classy, RP followers.

You think maybe that had something to do with why Ron Paul can still command up to 9,000 people at appearances yet we just never see that number translate to votes?

That’s likely because a large chunk of those “9,000″ people attended multiple rallies in multiple states. Since they can legally only be registered to vote in one state, that didn’t mean an automatic 9,000 votes every rally. Also, aside from the people who read blogs and go to rallies (which isn’t a substantial portion of the population) few people knew Ron Paul or his platform because Paul cheaped out on his campaign advertising.

we HAVE not conceded nor have we or Ron Paul given up

That’s why it’s tough to respect the opinions of Paulestinians…they live in a constant state of denial about the obvious facts of life. Your candidate lost. He lost because his hired staff ran a terrible campaign. It’s over. Move on.

what is the official response to building 7. It didn’t get hit by a plane. It also “imploded” hours after the 2 big towers.

Sorry for the delayed reply, I was gone for the weekend.

This link explains how WTC Building 7 got damaged by falling debris and how small fires started by that damage, which went unfought by firefighters for six hours because of safety concerns about the structural integrity of the building, caused the building to collapse.

http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm

It also discusses how people in the “truther” movement deliberately took comments out of context (particularly the usage of the word “pulled”) to make the collapse of Building 7 appear to be a conspiracy by the authorities on the scene. Basically, Building 7 collapsed because it was damaged by the fall of the WTC skyscrapers and the firefighters were ordered out of the building because the people in charge were afraid it would collapse as well and take more lives (a reasonable fear, considering what had just happened at the Twin Towers) so the resultant unchecked fires eventually brought 7 down, not a plane or controlled demolitions.

Not to mention those absurd electronic voting machines that were used in the majority of the primaries. Diebold? What a joke.

You think maybe that had something to do with why Ron Paul can still command up to 9,000 people at appearances yet we just never see that number translate to votes?

Hmmmmm. Kind of makes SOME of us think…(and don’t kid yourself — we HAVE not conceded nor have we or Ron Paul given up)