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		<title>By: KYJurisDoctor</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/04/04/can-this-marriage-be-saved/#comment-55074</link>
		<dc:creator>KYJurisDoctor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 20:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If McCain picks Mitt &quot;I&#039;ll flip flop on any issue&quot; Romney, as fas as I, and many like me are concerned, he&#039;s on his own!

http://OsiSpeaks.com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If McCain picks Mitt &#8220;I&#8217;ll flip flop on any issue&#8221; Romney, as fas as I, and many like me are concerned, he&#8217;s on his own!</p>
<p><a href="http://OsiSpeaks.com" rel="nofollow">http://OsiSpeaks.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: glenn</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/04/04/can-this-marriage-be-saved/#comment-55030</link>
		<dc:creator>glenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 12:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ron Paul represents more people in this country than one might think. Problem is , they are like the shy teen boy standing with his back to the wall at the prom waiting to be asked to dance. We&#039;re the ones who sit slack jawed watching 60 Minutes version of porkbarrell spending and crooked politicians doing the unthinkable and &quot;getting away with it&quot;. We say &quot;Oh my!&quot; and fall in love with anyone who will attack these shysters (verbage only please--we don&#039;t want to hurt their feelings). Enter Obama, Mr. knee deep himself---(an empty waggon can make alot of noise). But, hey, I know I&#039;m flirting with the enemy, but, hey, he&#039;s so cute and besides, my guy has his but glued to the wall waiting on me...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron Paul represents more people in this country than one might think. Problem is , they are like the shy teen boy standing with his back to the wall at the prom waiting to be asked to dance. We&#8217;re the ones who sit slack jawed watching 60 Minutes version of porkbarrell spending and crooked politicians doing the unthinkable and &#8220;getting away with it&#8221;. We say &#8220;Oh my!&#8221; and fall in love with anyone who will attack these shysters (verbage only please&#8211;we don&#8217;t want to hurt their feelings). Enter Obama, Mr. knee deep himself&#8212;(an empty waggon can make alot of noise). But, hey, I know I&#8217;m flirting with the enemy, but, hey, he&#8217;s so cute and besides, my guy has his but glued to the wall waiting on me&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Mataconis</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/04/04/can-this-marriage-be-saved/#comment-55029</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Mataconis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 11:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kevin,

At least in the Electoral College, I would expect this to be more along the lines of the past 4 elections 1992-2004 than anything like 1984 or 1988.

As for 3rd party candidates, I guess we shall see. 

Personally, I&#039;m hoping we top off a year in which we will have a brokered Democratic Convention with an election in which no candidate gets the majority of Electoral College votes and the election gets thrown in to the House.

But, then, I&#039;m a political junkie.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin,</p>
<p>At least in the Electoral College, I would expect this to be more along the lines of the past 4 elections 1992-2004 than anything like 1984 or 1988.</p>
<p>As for 3rd party candidates, I guess we shall see. </p>
<p>Personally, I&#8217;m hoping we top off a year in which we will have a brokered Democratic Convention with an election in which no candidate gets the majority of Electoral College votes and the election gets thrown in to the House.</p>
<p>But, then, I&#8217;m a political junkie.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Houston</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/04/04/can-this-marriage-be-saved/#comment-55028</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Houston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 11:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Doug,

I&#039;m confused.  Is this going to be a close election in the winner (whoever it is) will need every vote, and 3rd party candidates (such as Barr or Nader) can torpedo their closest major party by pulling much-needed votes away?

          -or-

Is this going to be such a blowout (in either direction) that the GOP doesn&#039;t need the votes of the Libertarian wing?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m confused.  Is this going to be a close election in the winner (whoever it is) will need every vote, and 3rd party candidates (such as Barr or Nader) can torpedo their closest major party by pulling much-needed votes away?</p>
<p>          -or-</p>
<p>Is this going to be such a blowout (in either direction) that the GOP doesn&#8217;t need the votes of the Libertarian wing?</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Houston</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/04/04/can-this-marriage-be-saved/#comment-55027</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Houston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 10:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Justin Bowen:

The easiest (and most honorable) way for the LP to do what you are suggesting is to continue to push candidates like Ron Paul.

Our efforts lead to a kind of blowback that makes the GOP and the DEMs elect the very kind of politicians you are talking about (look at McCain as a prime example)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justin Bowen:</p>
<p>The easiest (and most honorable) way for the LP to do what you are suggesting is to continue to push candidates like Ron Paul.</p>
<p>Our efforts lead to a kind of blowback that makes the GOP and the DEMs elect the very kind of politicians you are talking about (look at McCain as a prime example)</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Mataconis</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/04/04/can-this-marriage-be-saved/#comment-55026</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Mataconis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 10:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tanmin,

Stop engaging in fantasies. McCain is the nominee, it&#039;s over.

And, sadly, I think you are wrong that the GOP needs the libertarians to win. The last two Presidential elections have proven otherwise.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tanmin,</p>
<p>Stop engaging in fantasies. McCain is the nominee, it&#8217;s over.</p>
<p>And, sadly, I think you are wrong that the GOP needs the libertarians to win. The last two Presidential elections have proven otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Mataconis</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/04/04/can-this-marriage-be-saved/#comment-55025</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Mataconis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 10:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kevin,

I didn&#039;t say the polls were conclusive. I said they were evidence that McCain is not as weak a candidate as conventional wisdom might have thought. 

This is not going to be a blowout election on either side like 1984 or 1972. Like the last two elections, its going to be fought in close states like Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Florida. If McCain can win one or two of those, he could pull off a close Electoral College victory.

Ignore me if you wish, but the evidence is there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin,</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t say the polls were conclusive. I said they were evidence that McCain is not as weak a candidate as conventional wisdom might have thought. </p>
<p>This is not going to be a blowout election on either side like 1984 or 1972. Like the last two elections, its going to be fought in close states like Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Florida. If McCain can win one or two of those, he could pull off a close Electoral College victory.</p>
<p>Ignore me if you wish, but the evidence is there.</p>
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		<title>By: Tannim</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/04/04/can-this-marriage-be-saved/#comment-55023</link>
		<dc:creator>Tannim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 06:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s assuming McCain, the Panamanchurian Candidate, the Butcher of Black Mesa, even makes it to the convention.

If the GOP abandons the libertarian wing, they die, period.  We know it, and they know it but don&#039;t want to admit it.

A GOP without limited government is the Democratic Party gone theocratic-crazy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s assuming McCain, the Panamanchurian Candidate, the Butcher of Black Mesa, even makes it to the convention.</p>
<p>If the GOP abandons the libertarian wing, they die, period.  We know it, and they know it but don&#8217;t want to admit it.</p>
<p>A GOP without limited government is the Democratic Party gone theocratic-crazy.</p>
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		<title>By: Quincy</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/04/04/can-this-marriage-be-saved/#comment-55022</link>
		<dc:creator>Quincy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 05:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My big question is where can I get the ganja Naomi Klein is smoking?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My big question is where can I get the ganja Naomi Klein is smoking?</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Bowen</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/04/04/can-this-marriage-be-saved/#comment-55020</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Bowen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 04:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perhaps the libertarian remnant should start working to get the most anti-libertarian candidate elected.  If you believe that nations go through phases (as I do), eventually to collapse and begin anew as a new nation (or nations), then the best thing that can be done now is to move that process along at a faster pace rather than keep it going at the slow pace that it&#039;s currently going.  There was some talk prior to some of the primaries that Republicans were voting for the Democrat that they thought least likely to win against a strong Republican, thus sabotaging the Democrats.  Why doesn&#039;t the libertarian movement do the same with the the statists?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps the libertarian remnant should start working to get the most anti-libertarian candidate elected.  If you believe that nations go through phases (as I do), eventually to collapse and begin anew as a new nation (or nations), then the best thing that can be done now is to move that process along at a faster pace rather than keep it going at the slow pace that it&#8217;s currently going.  There was some talk prior to some of the primaries that Republicans were voting for the Democrat that they thought least likely to win against a strong Republican, thus sabotaging the Democrats.  Why doesn&#8217;t the libertarian movement do the same with the the statists?</p>
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		<title>By: uhm</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/04/04/can-this-marriage-be-saved/#comment-55019</link>
		<dc:creator>uhm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 04:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They weren&#039;t. This is Bush after all. He said he didn&#039;t like isolationism, protectionism, and nativism. He hasn&#039;t figured out that the isms you mentioned contribute to the ones he fears. The concept of blow back is over his head.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They weren&#8217;t. This is Bush after all. He said he didn&#8217;t like isolationism, protectionism, and nativism. He hasn&#8217;t figured out that the isms you mentioned contribute to the ones he fears. The concept of blow back is over his head.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Houston</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/04/04/can-this-marriage-be-saved/#comment-55017</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Houston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 02:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[uhm,

I&#039;m with Bush on that one....

I&#039;m afraid of &quot;isms&quot; too.

militarism
fascism
statism
corproratism
...

oh wait... Those weren&#039;t the &quot;isms&quot; he was talking about?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>uhm,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m with Bush on that one&#8230;.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m afraid of &#8220;isms&#8221; too.</p>
<p>militarism<br />
fascism<br />
statism<br />
corproratism<br />
&#8230;</p>
<p>oh wait&#8230; Those weren&#8217;t the &#8220;isms&#8221; he was talking about?</p>
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		<title>By: uhm</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/04/04/can-this-marriage-be-saved/#comment-55016</link>
		<dc:creator>uhm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 02:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think it is accurate to use Ron Paul to gage  the popularity of libertarianism in the Republican Party due to his non-interventionist stance. If he was an interventionist that promised to kill every Muslim who looked at Israel the wrong way (and had the record to prove it) he would have done much better. 

I&#039;ve read several times conservatives saying that if only Ron Paul wasn&#039;t wrong about Islamo-fascism they would support him. The US stepping away from the perceived war of civilizations is a no go for many Republicans at the moment. 

Bush recently said he was afraid of isms like isolationism. This fear is prevalent everywhere in the mainstream media and political parties. Ron Paul committed thought crime by advocating a non-interventionist foreign policy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think it is accurate to use Ron Paul to gage  the popularity of libertarianism in the Republican Party due to his non-interventionist stance. If he was an interventionist that promised to kill every Muslim who looked at Israel the wrong way (and had the record to prove it) he would have done much better. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve read several times conservatives saying that if only Ron Paul wasn&#8217;t wrong about Islamo-fascism they would support him. The US stepping away from the perceived war of civilizations is a no go for many Republicans at the moment. </p>
<p>Bush recently said he was afraid of isms like isolationism. This fear is prevalent everywhere in the mainstream media and political parties. Ron Paul committed thought crime by advocating a non-interventionist foreign policy.</p>
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		<title>By: Carol</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/04/04/can-this-marriage-be-saved/#comment-55014</link>
		<dc:creator>Carol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 01:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#039;s something I wanted to say in defense of Romney: I think there is at least some evidence to suggest that he has more libertarian leanings than it seems, though I don&#039;t know whether he would call them that.

If you recall, Romney was always personally pro-life, but did not wish to foist that upon people who believed differently. His abortion position was actually the same as Ron Pauls: it is a state issue.

He was similar on gay rights. He did not personally condone homosexuality but believed they deserved every right in the workplace. So he was assaulted for being both pro and anti-gay.

I&#039;m not sure if he was advocating corporate welfare to rescue Michigan, or just his usual skill at turning imploding businesses around.

Romney is an incredibly frugal individual, which many would not assume of someone with his wealth. I don&#039;t think he would have spent America into the ground.

I can&#039;t defend him on the Fed though. And his snickers at Ron Paul infuriated me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s something I wanted to say in defense of Romney: I think there is at least some evidence to suggest that he has more libertarian leanings than it seems, though I don&#8217;t know whether he would call them that.</p>
<p>If you recall, Romney was always personally pro-life, but did not wish to foist that upon people who believed differently. His abortion position was actually the same as Ron Pauls: it is a state issue.</p>
<p>He was similar on gay rights. He did not personally condone homosexuality but believed they deserved every right in the workplace. So he was assaulted for being both pro and anti-gay.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure if he was advocating corporate welfare to rescue Michigan, or just his usual skill at turning imploding businesses around.</p>
<p>Romney is an incredibly frugal individual, which many would not assume of someone with his wealth. I don&#8217;t think he would have spent America into the ground.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t defend him on the Fed though. And his snickers at Ron Paul infuriated me.</p>
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		<title>By: Carol</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 01:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tess, 

I was planning on writing-in Ron Paul&#039;s name as well, but if I understand this correctly, I don&#039;t think it will even be counted to his credit. It is just a &quot;spoiled ballot.&quot; 

We need to check on this and consider voting for the Libertarian instead.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tess, </p>
<p>I was planning on writing-in Ron Paul&#8217;s name as well, but if I understand this correctly, I don&#8217;t think it will even be counted to his credit. It is just a &#8220;spoiled ballot.&#8221; </p>
<p>We need to check on this and consider voting for the Libertarian instead.</p>
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