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		<title>By: Doug Mataconis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Mataconis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 21:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;the raison d’etre of the FLDS is to have high status in heaven. This requires a minimum of three wives&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Three ?

I&#039;m way too busy with one ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>the raison d’etre of the FLDS is to have high status in heaven. This requires a minimum of three wives</p></blockquote>
<p>Three ?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m way too busy with one ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Concerned Dad</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/05/29/quote-of-the-day-24/#comment-56451</link>
		<dc:creator>Concerned Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 20:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&gt;Pournelle conveniently omits the fact that the whole raison d’etre of FLDS is to celebrate incestuous polygamous statutory rape. They openly and notoriously declare this to be so.

No, the &lt;i&gt;raison d’etre&lt;/i&gt; of the FLDS is to have high status in heaven. This requires a minimum of three wives (problematic in itself) but there is nothing in their history or their  theology that requires underage wives or incest. It seems that Warren Jeffs himself is the source of much of this recent perversion.

Far too many of the government actions in this case have been based on rumor and hyperbole. I&#039;m hoping to see more facts and less hype.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;Pournelle conveniently omits the fact that the whole raison d’etre of FLDS is to celebrate incestuous polygamous statutory rape. They openly and notoriously declare this to be so.</p>
<p>No, the <i>raison d’etre</i> of the FLDS is to have high status in heaven. This requires a minimum of three wives (problematic in itself) but there is nothing in their history or their  theology that requires underage wives or incest. It seems that Warren Jeffs himself is the source of much of this recent perversion.</p>
<p>Far too many of the government actions in this case have been based on rumor and hyperbole. I&#8217;m hoping to see more facts and less hype.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Mataconis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Mataconis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 15:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ben,

And if nothing else the Texas case should be a signal to law enforcement to actually do their job right.

If it&#039;s true that children are being sexually abused in this compound, the fact that the State of Texas is too incompetent to protect them is a stain on the authorities.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben,</p>
<p>And if nothing else the Texas case should be a signal to law enforcement to actually do their job right.</p>
<p>If it&#8217;s true that children are being sexually abused in this compound, the fact that the State of Texas is too incompetent to protect them is a stain on the authorities.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 15:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pournelle&#039;s quote can be applied to many more situations than just the Texas case.  Its a sad commentary about the current state of America.  And not just in regards to the out of control state, but also that plenty of people in our society aren&#039;t content to mind their own business and think nothing of trying to ruin someone&#039;s life through lies and accusations.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pournelle&#8217;s quote can be applied to many more situations than just the Texas case.  Its a sad commentary about the current state of America.  And not just in regards to the out of control state, but also that plenty of people in our society aren&#8217;t content to mind their own business and think nothing of trying to ruin someone&#8217;s life through lies and accusations.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Mataconis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Mataconis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 14:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kip,

If this is a &quot;fact&quot; then why is it that the State of Texas was unable to provide sufficient evidence of the same to a judge ?

Frankly, I think the FLDSers are nuts, but the idea that the state can come in and take away 400 children from their parents based on allegations with no evidence scares the heck out of me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kip,</p>
<p>If this is a &#8220;fact&#8221; then why is it that the State of Texas was unable to provide sufficient evidence of the same to a judge ?</p>
<p>Frankly, I think the FLDSers are nuts, but the idea that the state can come in and take away 400 children from their parents based on allegations with no evidence scares the heck out of me.</p>
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		<title>By: KipEsquire</title>
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		<dc:creator>KipEsquire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 13:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Um, no.

Pournelle conveniently omits the fact that the whole &lt;i&gt;raison d&#039;etre&lt;/i&gt; of FLDS is to celebrate incestuous polygamous statutory rape. They openly and notoriously declare this to be so.

The only questions here are: (1) whether &quot;celebrate&quot; metastasized into &quot;practice&quot; at YFZ, and (2) what credible evidence did -- or did not -- exist to suggest as much?

Reasonable minds can argue over the second paragraph, but not the first.

Also, it&#039;s worth remembering that this is a child welfare matter first and a criminal matter second. So the whole &quot;whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty&quot; lament is a bit of a non sequitur.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, no.</p>
<p>Pournelle conveniently omits the fact that the whole <i>raison d&#8217;etre</i> of FLDS is to celebrate incestuous polygamous statutory rape. They openly and notoriously declare this to be so.</p>
<p>The only questions here are: (1) whether &#8220;celebrate&#8221; metastasized into &#8220;practice&#8221; at YFZ, and (2) what credible evidence did &#8212; or did not &#8212; exist to suggest as much?</p>
<p>Reasonable minds can argue over the second paragraph, but not the first.</p>
<p>Also, it&#8217;s worth remembering that this is a child welfare matter first and a criminal matter second. So the whole &#8220;whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty&#8221; lament is a bit of a non sequitur.</p>
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