Comments on: Quote Of The Day: Putting The Country First http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/07/07/quote-of-the-day-putting-the-country-first/ Life. Liberty. Property. Defending individual freedom and liberty, one post at a time. Mon, 17 Jun 2013 22:29:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: Akston http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/07/07/quote-of-the-day-putting-the-country-first/#comment-57439 Akston Tue, 08 Jul 2008 14:46:51 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/?p=2659#comment-57439 The only consolation I can summon is to hope for Libertarians to garner 1-2% of the popular vote (which would be 3-6 times the last presidential showing). If the Republicans lose by a narrow enough margin – and perceive Barr as the “spoiler” – they may find some grudging value in courting that side of the spectrum next time.

It’s small consolation, but liberty seems to have less appeal than fear and group-safety at the moment. Both main candidates will continue to try to prove that they love America more, pushing towards Samuel Johnson’s “last refuge.”

I also take solace in supporting libertarian-leaning congressional candidates wherever I find them.

O.K., one last “meaningless” quote:

“Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.”
- Mark Twain

]]> By: Jeff Molby http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/07/07/quote-of-the-day-putting-the-country-first/#comment-57429 Jeff Molby Tue, 08 Jul 2008 08:42:17 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/?p=2659#comment-57429 I hear ya, Quincy. As much as I’d hate to see the Dems have an easy time implementing their platform, I also realize two things:
1. Barring a huge cultural shift, it’s inevitable anyways.
2. It would be horrible for the disastrous GOP polices of recent years to be rewarded with a another presidential victory. They need to spend the next 10 years with just barely enough power to filibuster occasionally.

The bottom line is there’s nothing that can even remotely be considered a win for us. Libertarians won’t even get a consolation prize out of this one.

]]> By: Quincy http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/07/07/quote-of-the-day-putting-the-country-first/#comment-57425 Quincy Tue, 08 Jul 2008 06:40:42 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/?p=2659#comment-57425

If your house is to be robbed, would you pick the thief that goes in the front door or the back door?

As long as I know which door, I’d take either, and that’s kind of the point. The US is about to be saddled by a collectivist, and the choice folks have if their state is in play it to try and influence the outcome one way or another or not to influence it at all.

If I were in a state that was in play, I’d probably vote for McCain for two reasons:

1) The media will be much more suspicious of McCain than Obama
2) A collectivist with a compliant congress is a scary thing (see GWB and the Republican majority, 2001-2006)

I’m not saying my choice is the right one, just that it’s the one I’d make. Luckily, I’m in CA and simply don’t have to make that choice.

]]> By: Jeff Molby http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/07/07/quote-of-the-day-putting-the-country-first/#comment-57423 Jeff Molby Tue, 08 Jul 2008 05:42:15 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/?p=2659#comment-57423

When your choice is between a national greatness collectivist and a dependency monger collectivist, which would you pick?

If your house is to be robbed, would you pick the thief that goes in the front door or the back door?

I’ll vote my conscience even if my state stays in play.

]]> By: Akston http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/07/07/quote-of-the-day-putting-the-country-first/#comment-57422 Akston Tue, 08 Jul 2008 05:41:02 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/?p=2659#comment-57422 Reminds me of a quote I liked so much I had it made into a T-shirt:

“Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for yourself.”

]]> By: Jono http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/07/07/quote-of-the-day-putting-the-country-first/#comment-57410 Jono Tue, 08 Jul 2008 00:16:14 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/?p=2659#comment-57410 You read my mind Quincy, spot on.

One person appeals to national greatness and patriotism.

The other is a “citizen of the planet”.

]]> By: Quincy http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/07/07/quote-of-the-day-putting-the-country-first/#comment-57406 Quincy Mon, 07 Jul 2008 20:01:46 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/?p=2659#comment-57406 When your choice is between a national greatness collectivist and a dependency monger collectivist, which would you pick?

(Disclaimer: Living in California, I’m free to vote my conscience as the state will break for Obama no matter what.)

]]> By: NA http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/07/07/quote-of-the-day-putting-the-country-first/#comment-57399 NA Mon, 07 Jul 2008 16:34:02 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/?p=2659#comment-57399 I don’t think I can or encourage anyone else to vote this year with a clear consicence. All the choices are so bad, the only one even close to being decent is barr but I don’t know if he’s remotely worth supporting.

]]> By: Constant http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/07/07/quote-of-the-day-putting-the-country-first/#comment-57385 Constant Mon, 07 Jul 2008 12:26:11 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/?p=2659#comment-57385 The choice is between two collectivists, so collecting collectivist quotes from one doesn’t really decide who to vote for.

]]> By: tarran http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/07/07/quote-of-the-day-putting-the-country-first/#comment-57384 tarran Mon, 07 Jul 2008 11:53:24 +0000 http://www.thelibertypapers.org/?p=2659#comment-57384 It reads like that passage from Mein Kampf I quoted in an earlier comment thread.

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