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	<title>Comments on: Barack Obama: Starting Forced Volunteerism Early</title>
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		<title>By: Quincy</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/08/14/barack-obama-starting-forced-volunteerism-early/#comment-59639</link>
		<dc:creator>Quincy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 07:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mark and Thomas - 

Strictly speaking, it&#039;s arm-twisting, not forced volunteerism.  I&#039;ll agree that Doug was engaged in a little hyperbole.  I&#039;ll also say that, in a vacuum, I wouldn&#039;t really care about this.  I&#039;d write it off as a cheap political stunt.

But, since the campaign is not a vacuum, let&#039;s bring in the relevant point:

&lt;i&gt;Obama is a big advocate of national service, and has already proposed mandatory national service for middle and high schoolers.&lt;/i&gt;

Given this, and the Democrats new fetish for mandatory national service (cf. Universal Service Act of 2007), Obama&#039;s stunt is more than just a stunt.  It&#039;s a message--a message about how important he thinks community service is.

Remember, he&#039;s already proposed mandating that high schoolers give 100 hours of their lives over to community service.  If service is so important to him, what might he do when actually in office?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark and Thomas &#8211; </p>
<p>Strictly speaking, it&#8217;s arm-twisting, not forced volunteerism.  I&#8217;ll agree that Doug was engaged in a little hyperbole.  I&#8217;ll also say that, in a vacuum, I wouldn&#8217;t really care about this.  I&#8217;d write it off as a cheap political stunt.</p>
<p>But, since the campaign is not a vacuum, let&#8217;s bring in the relevant point:</p>
<p><i>Obama is a big advocate of national service, and has already proposed mandatory national service for middle and high schoolers.</i></p>
<p>Given this, and the Democrats new fetish for mandatory national service (cf. Universal Service Act of 2007), Obama&#8217;s stunt is more than just a stunt.  It&#8217;s a message&#8211;a message about how important he thinks community service is.</p>
<p>Remember, he&#8217;s already proposed mandating that high schoolers give 100 hours of their lives over to community service.  If service is so important to him, what might he do when actually in office?</p>
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		<title>By: jwh</title>
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		<dc:creator>jwh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 21:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[.....you mean to say that people expect to be compensated for their work?   The promise that they MIGHT get something just doesn&#039;t cut it?

hmmmm.....perhaps there&#039;s still a smidgeon of hope for us yet.....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;..you mean to say that people expect to be compensated for their work?   The promise that they MIGHT get something just doesn&#8217;t cut it?</p>
<p>hmmmm&#8230;..perhaps there&#8217;s still a smidgeon of hope for us yet&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Mataconis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Mataconis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 17:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mark,

&lt;blockquote&gt;This is a far cry from mandating that people perform volunteer service “at the barrel of a gun.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s because The one won&#039;t have access to the gun until his Anointing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark,</p>
<blockquote><p>This is a far cry from mandating that people perform volunteer service “at the barrel of a gun.”</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s because The one won&#8217;t have access to the gun until his Anointing.</p>
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		<title>By: ThomasBlair</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThomasBlair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In order to be considered for tickets to a speech held by a private organization (the DNC), you have to do volunteer work. What&#039;s the big deal?

BTW, what&#039;s &quot;forced&quot; about this? I don&#039;t give two shits about seeing The One speak, so I don&#039;t have to worry about volunteering to get access to a ticket.

I suppose my only problem with it is that it&#039;s at Mile High, but then again, the DNC is probably renting the building for the event.

Sure, the whole thing is silly, and it&#039;s likely to piss off some of his supporters and make great fodder for talk radio, but how are you affected? Are you forced to volunteer?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In order to be considered for tickets to a speech held by a private organization (the DNC), you have to do volunteer work. What&#8217;s the big deal?</p>
<p>BTW, what&#8217;s &#8220;forced&#8221; about this? I don&#8217;t give two shits about seeing The One speak, so I don&#8217;t have to worry about volunteering to get access to a ticket.</p>
<p>I suppose my only problem with it is that it&#8217;s at Mile High, but then again, the DNC is probably renting the building for the event.</p>
<p>Sure, the whole thing is silly, and it&#8217;s likely to piss off some of his supporters and make great fodder for talk radio, but how are you affected? Are you forced to volunteer?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think this a bit over-the-top.  Frankly, from a libertarian point of view, what Obama is doing is hardly &quot;forced.&quot;  He&#039;s taking a scarce resource (&quot;tickets&quot;) and rationing them to the people willing to pay a minimum price for those tickets.  It amounts to: &quot;if you wish to receive x, you must pay me y,&quot; where y is volunteerism rather than hard cash.  But if Obama would prefer to accept volunteerism over money, that is his prerogative as the seller of the tickets.  This is a far cry from mandating that people perform volunteer service &quot;at the barrel of a gun.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this a bit over-the-top.  Frankly, from a libertarian point of view, what Obama is doing is hardly &#8220;forced.&#8221;  He&#8217;s taking a scarce resource (&#8220;tickets&#8221;) and rationing them to the people willing to pay a minimum price for those tickets.  It amounts to: &#8220;if you wish to receive x, you must pay me y,&#8221; where y is volunteerism rather than hard cash.  But if Obama would prefer to accept volunteerism over money, that is his prerogative as the seller of the tickets.  This is a far cry from mandating that people perform volunteer service &#8220;at the barrel of a gun.&#8221;</p>
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