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		<title>By: Ahrcanum</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/10/23/the-coming-constitutional-crisis/#comment-61125</link>
		<dc:creator>Ahrcanum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 02:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Indeed, all men are created equal but not all men meet the citizenship qualifications to be President and there seems to be a some questions still lingering regarding Obama&#039;s citizenship. 

Not to tick you off as I am really trying to understand all this, but I read that Supreme Court Justice David Souter has agreed that a review of the federal lawsuit filed by attorney Phil Berg against Barack Hussein Obama II, et al., which was subsequently dismissed for lack of standing is warranted. SCOTUS Docket No. 08-570.  Berg’s petition for an injunction to stay the November 4th election was of course denied, but the Clerk also required the defendants to respond to the Writ of Certiorari.  Is the court asking for Obama&#039;s birth certificate or just a reply?  Or is this just usual proceedings of the Court? Respectfully.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed, all men are created equal but not all men meet the citizenship qualifications to be President and there seems to be a some questions still lingering regarding Obama&#8217;s citizenship. </p>
<p>Not to tick you off as I am really trying to understand all this, but I read that Supreme Court Justice David Souter has agreed that a review of the federal lawsuit filed by attorney Phil Berg against Barack Hussein Obama II, et al., which was subsequently dismissed for lack of standing is warranted. SCOTUS Docket No. 08-570.  Berg’s petition for an injunction to stay the November 4th election was of course denied, but the Clerk also required the defendants to respond to the Writ of Certiorari.  Is the court asking for Obama&#8217;s birth certificate or just a reply?  Or is this just usual proceedings of the Court? Respectfully.</p>
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		<title>By: ken Overstreet</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/10/23/the-coming-constitutional-crisis/#comment-60984</link>
		<dc:creator>ken Overstreet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 19:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kelly, 
Your opinion here is very sickening and offensive. The elections are over but you insist that you must continue to parade your unpopular 19th century divisive and racist comments. Grow up! Even Mccain has. It is a new dawn and we can move forward without bitter nay sayers like you!
May God touch your heart and give you the grace of salvation to truly understand that all men are equal in God; there are Jews or Gentiles, we are children of the most high God.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kelly,<br />
Your opinion here is very sickening and offensive. The elections are over but you insist that you must continue to parade your unpopular 19th century divisive and racist comments. Grow up! Even Mccain has. It is a new dawn and we can move forward without bitter nay sayers like you!<br />
May God touch your heart and give you the grace of salvation to truly understand that all men are equal in God; there are Jews or Gentiles, we are children of the most high God.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/10/23/the-coming-constitutional-crisis/#comment-60972</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 16:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The citizens of the U.S. just elected a man who&#039;s name is...&quot;Barack Hussein Obama&quot; into the highest office in his country, who refuses to produce his birth certificate? 

Let me get this right; Obama&#039;s mother gets pregnant by Barack Obama Sr. in Hawaii &amp; they both travel to Kenya where she gives birth to Barack Jr. His realtives from Kenya admits that he was born there &amp; that they were actually there to see his birth. Then Obamas mother separates from Obama Sr. &amp; then remarries a man who&#039;s last name is &quot;Soltero&quot; from Indonesia, and he adopts Barack. His name is changed to &quot;Barry Soltero.&quot; On this legal school form in Indonesia, it reads &quot;Barry Soltero&quot; and his practicing religion is &quot;Islam.&quot; Then his mother leaves Indonesia &amp; goes back to Hawaii, to dump &quot;Barry Soltero&quot; onto her white parents who live in Hawaii, and they end up helping to raise him. 

It certainly sounds like to me, that &quot;Barack Hussein Obama&quot; was not born in the U.S. and is NOT qualified to be our president of the United States! There is something terribly wrong here! Sounds like Obama has be living a LIE all his life and his white grandmother (who just died) knew it! She went to her dying grave with this secret too. The supreme court MUST get involved ASAP, to find out the truth to all this. I AM A CITIZEN OF THIS COUNTRY &amp; I WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The citizens of the U.S. just elected a man who&#8217;s name is&#8230;&#8221;Barack Hussein Obama&#8221; into the highest office in his country, who refuses to produce his birth certificate? </p>
<p>Let me get this right; Obama&#8217;s mother gets pregnant by Barack Obama Sr. in Hawaii &amp; they both travel to Kenya where she gives birth to Barack Jr. His realtives from Kenya admits that he was born there &amp; that they were actually there to see his birth. Then Obamas mother separates from Obama Sr. &amp; then remarries a man who&#8217;s last name is &#8220;Soltero&#8221; from Indonesia, and he adopts Barack. His name is changed to &#8220;Barry Soltero.&#8221; On this legal school form in Indonesia, it reads &#8220;Barry Soltero&#8221; and his practicing religion is &#8220;Islam.&#8221; Then his mother leaves Indonesia &amp; goes back to Hawaii, to dump &#8220;Barry Soltero&#8221; onto her white parents who live in Hawaii, and they end up helping to raise him. </p>
<p>It certainly sounds like to me, that &#8220;Barack Hussein Obama&#8221; was not born in the U.S. and is NOT qualified to be our president of the United States! There is something terribly wrong here! Sounds like Obama has be living a LIE all his life and his white grandmother (who just died) knew it! She went to her dying grave with this secret too. The supreme court MUST get involved ASAP, to find out the truth to all this. I AM A CITIZEN OF THIS COUNTRY &amp; I WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH!</p>
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		<title>By: ahrcanum</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/10/23/the-coming-constitutional-crisis/#comment-60838</link>
		<dc:creator>ahrcanum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 19:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If Berg has no standing, who does?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Berg has no standing, who does?</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Mataconis</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/10/23/the-coming-constitutional-crisis/#comment-60753</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Mataconis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 13:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;you can’t stop lunatics from filing pro se to have bush declared a lizard person from space (in crayon no less); but at least they can be summarily dismissed without hearing; and the press pays no attention to them except as humor.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And all of those suits are dismissed on the same grounds that Berg&#039;s is.

Just because a moron like Berg and but crayon to paper and write a Complaint, doesn&#039;t mean he deserves a day in Court.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>you can’t stop lunatics from filing pro se to have bush declared a lizard person from space (in crayon no less); but at least they can be summarily dismissed without hearing; and the press pays no attention to them except as humor.</p></blockquote>
<p>And all of those suits are dismissed on the same grounds that Berg&#8217;s is.</p>
<p>Just because a moron like Berg and but crayon to paper and write a Complaint, doesn&#8217;t mean he deserves a day in Court.</p>
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		<title>By: ahrcanum</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/10/23/the-coming-constitutional-crisis/#comment-60752</link>
		<dc:creator>ahrcanum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 13:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;As of Friday, similar suits had been filed in all 50 states, and every federal district.&quot; in Mr.  Doug Mataconis post.  Seems there are more idiots with some legalese than you&#039;d think.  

Would you happen to have a source on all those cases?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;As of Friday, similar suits had been filed in all 50 states, and every federal district.&#8221; in Mr.  Doug Mataconis post.  Seems there are more idiots with some legalese than you&#8217;d think.  </p>
<p>Would you happen to have a source on all those cases?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/10/23/the-coming-constitutional-crisis/#comment-60736</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 18:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do I think the conspiracy nuts will be satisfied? No.

Do I think that no lawyer in their right minds will touch another Obama citizenship case once a finding of fact has been entered, yes. 

Lord, you can&#039;t stop lunatics from filing pro se to have bush declared a lizard person from space (in crayon no less); but at least they can be summarily dismissed without hearing; and the press pays no attention to them except as humor.

As it is, these idiots can claim some legitimacy, because a judge hasn&#039;t ruled against them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do I think the conspiracy nuts will be satisfied? No.</p>
<p>Do I think that no lawyer in their right minds will touch another Obama citizenship case once a finding of fact has been entered, yes. </p>
<p>Lord, you can&#8217;t stop lunatics from filing pro se to have bush declared a lizard person from space (in crayon no less); but at least they can be summarily dismissed without hearing; and the press pays no attention to them except as humor.</p>
<p>As it is, these idiots can claim some legitimacy, because a judge hasn&#8217;t ruled against them.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Mataconis</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/10/23/the-coming-constitutional-crisis/#comment-60734</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Mataconis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 17:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Chris,

The perversity lies in the idea that the Court system needs to be brought into nonsense like this. 

And, yes, I say that as an attorney. 

Do you really think that the insane conspiracy-minded people who persist in the false beliefs that (1) Obama is not a natural born citizen, (2) that is a Muslim (as if that&#039;s a crime), (3) that his family has engaged in a 47 year long conspiracy to fake his birth in Hawaii so that he could one day run for the Presidency are going to be satisfied by the ruling of one, or even 50, Federal Judges ?

We both know they aren&#039;t. They&#039;ll persist in publishing their crap throughout the 4 or 8 years of an Obama Presidency, and then they&#039;ll move on to the next target. 

There&#039;s no factual merit in this nonsense. It doesn&#039;t belong in a court of law, and it doesn&#039;t deserve to be taken seriously.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,</p>
<p>The perversity lies in the idea that the Court system needs to be brought into nonsense like this. </p>
<p>And, yes, I say that as an attorney. </p>
<p>Do you really think that the insane conspiracy-minded people who persist in the false beliefs that (1) Obama is not a natural born citizen, (2) that is a Muslim (as if that&#8217;s a crime), (3) that his family has engaged in a 47 year long conspiracy to fake his birth in Hawaii so that he could one day run for the Presidency are going to be satisfied by the ruling of one, or even 50, Federal Judges ?</p>
<p>We both know they aren&#8217;t. They&#8217;ll persist in publishing their crap throughout the 4 or 8 years of an Obama Presidency, and then they&#8217;ll move on to the next target. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s no factual merit in this nonsense. It doesn&#8217;t belong in a court of law, and it doesn&#8217;t deserve to be taken seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/10/23/the-coming-constitutional-crisis/#comment-60732</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 17:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Doug, you and I both know that the truth doesn&#039;t matter a damn in court until the judge says it&#039;s true. 

The worst lie in the world, the stupidest bullshit; until a judge says true or false anything can happen. 

That&#039;s the perversity of the legal system.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug, you and I both know that the truth doesn&#8217;t matter a damn in court until the judge says it&#8217;s true. </p>
<p>The worst lie in the world, the stupidest bullshit; until a judge says true or false anything can happen. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s the perversity of the legal system.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Mataconis</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/10/23/the-coming-constitutional-crisis/#comment-60731</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Mataconis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 16:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;because no finding of fact was issued that Obama is a natural born citizen, this also leaves open the other lawsuits which have already been filed.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No, it doesn&#039;t. Barack Obama is a natural born citizen. This is a fact that has already been proven and doesn&#039;t need to waste the docket of 50, or even a single, Federal District Court judge.

&lt;blockquote&gt;As of Friday, similar suits had been filed in all 50 states, and every federal district.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Excellent. Hopefully, we&#039;ll see some aggressive use of Rule 11 over the coming weeks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>because no finding of fact was issued that Obama is a natural born citizen, this also leaves open the other lawsuits which have already been filed.</p></blockquote>
<p>No, it doesn&#8217;t. Barack Obama is a natural born citizen. This is a fact that has already been proven and doesn&#8217;t need to waste the docket of 50, or even a single, Federal District Court judge.</p>
<blockquote><p>As of Friday, similar suits had been filed in all 50 states, and every federal district.</p></blockquote>
<p>Excellent. Hopefully, we&#8217;ll see some aggressive use of Rule 11 over the coming weeks.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/10/23/the-coming-constitutional-crisis/#comment-60728</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 15:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually near as I can tell he DIDNT rule on the merits. He commented on the merits but only ruled on the standing issue (and apparently decided he had subject matter jurisdiction).

As of a couple hours ago the minute entry wasn&#039;t up in PACER so I haven&#039;t seen the ruling yet, just a couple press blurbs on the case. 

If he only ruled on standing, this leaves the whole thing open for re-filing, and for appeal; which will obviously happen immediately.

Further, because no finding of fact was issued that Obama is a natural born citizen, this also leaves open the other lawsuits which have already been filed.

As of Friday, similar suits had been filed in all 50 states, and every federal district.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually near as I can tell he DIDNT rule on the merits. He commented on the merits but only ruled on the standing issue (and apparently decided he had subject matter jurisdiction).</p>
<p>As of a couple hours ago the minute entry wasn&#8217;t up in PACER so I haven&#8217;t seen the ruling yet, just a couple press blurbs on the case. </p>
<p>If he only ruled on standing, this leaves the whole thing open for re-filing, and for appeal; which will obviously happen immediately.</p>
<p>Further, because no finding of fact was issued that Obama is a natural born citizen, this also leaves open the other lawsuits which have already been filed.</p>
<p>As of Friday, similar suits had been filed in all 50 states, and every federal district.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/10/23/the-coming-constitutional-crisis/#comment-60727</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 15:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That would appear to settle it.  According to the article it sounds like the judge supplemented his findings on standing with a complete rejection of the merits of the suit.  Of course, it won&#039;t satisfy the conspiracy whackos, but only because nothing would satisfy them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That would appear to settle it.  According to the article it sounds like the judge supplemented his findings on standing with a complete rejection of the merits of the suit.  Of course, it won&#8217;t satisfy the conspiracy whackos, but only because nothing would satisfy them.</p>
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		<title>By: ahrcanum</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/10/23/the-coming-constitutional-crisis/#comment-60723</link>
		<dc:creator>ahrcanum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[According to the Online edition of the Philadelphia News, Surrick has dismissed the case.
http://www.philly.com/dailynews/local/20081025_Judge_rejects_Montco_lawyer_s_bid_to_have_Obama_removed_from_ballot.html

There is a blank template for anyone else wishing to file suit at http://mitchell-langbert.blogspot.com/2008/10/draft-cal-template-to-sue-for-bocolb.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to the Online edition of the Philadelphia News, Surrick has dismissed the case.<br />
<a href="http://www.philly.com/dailynews/local/20081025_Judge_rejects_Montco_lawyer_s_bid_to_have_Obama_removed_from_ballot.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.philly.com/dailynews/local/20081025_Judge_rejects_Montco_lawyer_s_bid_to_have_Obama_removed_from_ballot.html</a></p>
<p>There is a blank template for anyone else wishing to file suit at <a href="http://mitchell-langbert.blogspot.com/2008/10/draft-cal-template-to-sue-for-bocolb.html" rel="nofollow">http://mitchell-langbert.blogspot.com/2008/10/draft-cal-template-to-sue-for-bocolb.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Horatio</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/10/23/the-coming-constitutional-crisis/#comment-60720</link>
		<dc:creator>Horatio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For what it&#039;s worth, Berg is a Democrat, and a former deputy attorney general for Pennsylvania. Of course, that doesn&#039;t mean the man&#039;s not be a lunatic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For what it&#8217;s worth, Berg is a Democrat, and a former deputy attorney general for Pennsylvania. Of course, that doesn&#8217;t mean the man&#8217;s not be a lunatic.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Mataconis</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/10/23/the-coming-constitutional-crisis/#comment-60719</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Mataconis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brad,

&lt;blockquote&gt;A reduction in the confidence in government might be a good thing. I’d rather have a populace who distrusts their government than one who would give it more power.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Granted, but I don&#039;t think it helps the cause of liberty to become allied in any respect with members of the tinfoil hat crowd or idiots like Berg.

And, quite honestly, my guess is that the average American is going to give people like Berg the time the deserve, none.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad,</p>
<blockquote><p>A reduction in the confidence in government might be a good thing. I’d rather have a populace who distrusts their government than one who would give it more power.</p></blockquote>
<p>Granted, but I don&#8217;t think it helps the cause of liberty to become allied in any respect with members of the tinfoil hat crowd or idiots like Berg.</p>
<p>And, quite honestly, my guess is that the average American is going to give people like Berg the time the deserve, none.</p>
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