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	<title>Comments on: IEEE and U.S. Hegemony</title>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 14:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I read the editorial in IEEE Spectrum also and I saw the &quot;Why can&#039;t the EU just adopt a strategy...&quot; comment as a long-range goal that would drive current actions and planning.  It didn&#039;t strike me as a &quot;let&#039;s just wish this problem away and it will be gone&quot; statement.  I, too, view the leaders of Russia as ambitious and control-minded, both within their country and across borders.  I don&#039;t see the IEEE&#039;s advising against being dependent on Russia as &quot;support for the American military-industrial complex.&quot;  The editorial seems to say that Russia may manipulate the gas supply to ward off action by the EU nations themselves (whether the Americans had a preference or not).  The whole of the editorial did not seem to me as &quot;pro-US&quot; as you view it, but more US-agnostic.

I have seen IEEE-USA (a branch of the worldwide organization) take on parochial positions on immigration and work visas that I didn&#039;t care for.  They probably see that as their role as an advocate for electrical and electronic engineers in the USA.  I haven&#039;t see the IEEE (worldwide) be as US-centric in the policies they advocate.  

If you&#039;d rather not see &quot;political&quot; or &quot;social&quot; editorials in an engineering magazine, I respect your right to your preference.  IEEE Spectrum has published articles and editorials on the impact of technology on society and I welcome more of these.  I doubt the IEEE would suggest you shouldn&#039;t discuss electrical engineering related subjects here at TheLibertyPapers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read the editorial in IEEE Spectrum also and I saw the &#8220;Why can&#8217;t the EU just adopt a strategy&#8230;&#8221; comment as a long-range goal that would drive current actions and planning.  It didn&#8217;t strike me as a &#8220;let&#8217;s just wish this problem away and it will be gone&#8221; statement.  I, too, view the leaders of Russia as ambitious and control-minded, both within their country and across borders.  I don&#8217;t see the IEEE&#8217;s advising against being dependent on Russia as &#8220;support for the American military-industrial complex.&#8221;  The editorial seems to say that Russia may manipulate the gas supply to ward off action by the EU nations themselves (whether the Americans had a preference or not).  The whole of the editorial did not seem to me as &#8220;pro-US&#8221; as you view it, but more US-agnostic.</p>
<p>I have seen IEEE-USA (a branch of the worldwide organization) take on parochial positions on immigration and work visas that I didn&#8217;t care for.  They probably see that as their role as an advocate for electrical and electronic engineers in the USA.  I haven&#8217;t see the IEEE (worldwide) be as US-centric in the policies they advocate.  </p>
<p>If you&#8217;d rather not see &#8220;political&#8221; or &#8220;social&#8221; editorials in an engineering magazine, I respect your right to your preference.  IEEE Spectrum has published articles and editorials on the impact of technology on society and I welcome more of these.  I doubt the IEEE would suggest you shouldn&#8217;t discuss electrical engineering related subjects here at TheLibertyPapers.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Warbiany</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/11/15/ieee-us-hegemony/#comment-61165</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Warbiany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 18:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[tarran,

I agree wholeheartedly...  Let me point out another angle, though:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;Why can’t the European Union just adopt a strategy of energy independence and wean itself from Russia and the “stans”?&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

While we&#039;re at it, why doesn&#039;t the US just adopt a strategy of high incomes and prosperity?  Seems like as long as we believe that all that is necessary to make a change is to &quot;adopt a strategy&quot; -- economics be damned -- we might as well go for the gusto, right?

A statement like that of the IEEE belies a very strong technocratic bias, in the belief that if only we adopt the right policies we will make everything better.  Not that this surprises me, since IEEE is a standards organization and professional group, so all they really do is have meetings and adopt policies.  

But I think it&#039;s important to point out that life is a lot more complex than just &quot;adopting a policy&quot; and hoping it all works out for the best.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tarran,</p>
<p>I agree wholeheartedly&#8230;  Let me point out another angle, though:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Why can’t the European Union just adopt a strategy of energy independence and wean itself from Russia and the “stans”?</em></p></blockquote>
<p>While we&#8217;re at it, why doesn&#8217;t the US just adopt a strategy of high incomes and prosperity?  Seems like as long as we believe that all that is necessary to make a change is to &#8220;adopt a strategy&#8221; &#8212; economics be damned &#8212; we might as well go for the gusto, right?</p>
<p>A statement like that of the IEEE belies a very strong technocratic bias, in the belief that if only we adopt the right policies we will make everything better.  Not that this surprises me, since IEEE is a standards organization and professional group, so all they really do is have meetings and adopt policies.  </p>
<p>But I think it&#8217;s important to point out that life is a lot more complex than just &#8220;adopting a policy&#8221; and hoping it all works out for the best.</p>
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