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	<title>Comments on: Paul Krugman &#8212; A Failure To Rise To The Challenge</title>
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		<title>By: tarran</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2009/02/13/paul-krugman-a-failure-to-rise-to-the-challenge/#comment-63315</link>
		<dc:creator>tarran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 18:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not having seen the post in question,  I can&#039;t say this with certainty, but when I am clearing the Spam bucket, if I see a post with a name consisting of swearing at people, I move on to checking the next post.

We write on this blog to incite debate and, in my case, to encourage people to change their thinking.

Comments that consist of swearing at people or incoherent ad-hominem attacks detract from that, and I really have no interest in shelling out money in bandwith costs and storage costs to maintain them.

Oilnwater, you are capable of interesting posts.  I seem to remember you contributing interesting information on one of my posts relating to the oil industry.  If positive contributions like that were the norm, rather than being a pleasantly surprising exception, I would welcome you.  Moreover, I am always ready to have my mind changed by a superior argument. Believe it or not, I was once a Goldwater conservative.  I became a Rothbardian anarchist thanks to people arguing with me on the Internet, and losing quite a few arguments on the subject of foreign policy.

This is still a free country, sort of.  You are welcome to put up a website and spout whatever angry gibberish you want to spout.  If you want to comment on this website, then you follow our rules.  Simply put, this means keeping a consistent handle, writing stuff that adds to the discourse, and not advertising marital aids.

To date, only two people have been banned, and they had to work hard at it: 
1) Eric Dondero (who in effect accused us of being too supportive of Ron Paul)
2) Some guy who started a long conversation with himself posting under multiple handles to make it seem like his brand of crazy was in wide demand.

Don&#039;t become the third.  Recapture the moments last summer when you were writing stuff that was triggering debate rather than repulsion and eye-rolling. If you do, then we will welcome your dissention.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not having seen the post in question,  I can&#8217;t say this with certainty, but when I am clearing the Spam bucket, if I see a post with a name consisting of swearing at people, I move on to checking the next post.</p>
<p>We write on this blog to incite debate and, in my case, to encourage people to change their thinking.</p>
<p>Comments that consist of swearing at people or incoherent ad-hominem attacks detract from that, and I really have no interest in shelling out money in bandwith costs and storage costs to maintain them.</p>
<p>Oilnwater, you are capable of interesting posts.  I seem to remember you contributing interesting information on one of my posts relating to the oil industry.  If positive contributions like that were the norm, rather than being a pleasantly surprising exception, I would welcome you.  Moreover, I am always ready to have my mind changed by a superior argument. Believe it or not, I was once a Goldwater conservative.  I became a Rothbardian anarchist thanks to people arguing with me on the Internet, and losing quite a few arguments on the subject of foreign policy.</p>
<p>This is still a free country, sort of.  You are welcome to put up a website and spout whatever angry gibberish you want to spout.  If you want to comment on this website, then you follow our rules.  Simply put, this means keeping a consistent handle, writing stuff that adds to the discourse, and not advertising marital aids.</p>
<p>To date, only two people have been banned, and they had to work hard at it:<br />
1) Eric Dondero (who in effect accused us of being too supportive of Ron Paul)<br />
2) Some guy who started a long conversation with himself posting under multiple handles to make it seem like his brand of crazy was in wide demand.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t become the third.  Recapture the moments last summer when you were writing stuff that was triggering debate rather than repulsion and eye-rolling. If you do, then we will welcome your dissention.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Warbiany</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2009/02/13/paul-krugman-a-failure-to-rise-to-the-challenge/#comment-63314</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Warbiany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 16:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[BTW, tarran hasn&#039;t deleted any of your posts.  I saw one in our spam filter (probably due to you posting from multiple handles with the same IP), and killed it there.  It may have been visible on the main post prior to that -- I&#039;m not sure.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, tarran hasn&#8217;t deleted any of your posts.  I saw one in our spam filter (probably due to you posting from multiple handles with the same IP), and killed it there.  It may have been visible on the main post prior to that &#8212; I&#8217;m not sure.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Warbiany</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2009/02/13/paul-krugman-a-failure-to-rise-to-the-challenge/#comment-63312</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Warbiany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 16:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You want to keep your comments from being deleted?  There&#039;s one simple way to do that:

&lt;strong&gt;Use a constant pseudonym.&lt;/strong&gt;

We&#039;re not afraid of criticism here.  We&#039;ve left far more critical comments alone in the past.  But when you bounce around from handle to handle, it&#039;s clear that you&#039;re playing games.

You want to have a debate about our reaction to Ron Paul and to Obama?  Fine.  Do so under the name oilnwater.

Changing your name every few comments makes it impossible for us to know who we&#039;re arguing against.  But when we know that you&#039;re playing such games, it&#039;s difficult to take you seriously.  When you do that, it&#039;s clear that you&#039;re interested in drive-by sniping, and your comments will be treated as such.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You want to keep your comments from being deleted?  There&#8217;s one simple way to do that:</p>
<p><strong>Use a constant pseudonym.</strong></p>
<p>We&#8217;re not afraid of criticism here.  We&#8217;ve left far more critical comments alone in the past.  But when you bounce around from handle to handle, it&#8217;s clear that you&#8217;re playing games.</p>
<p>You want to have a debate about our reaction to Ron Paul and to Obama?  Fine.  Do so under the name oilnwater.</p>
<p>Changing your name every few comments makes it impossible for us to know who we&#8217;re arguing against.  But when we know that you&#8217;re playing such games, it&#8217;s difficult to take you seriously.  When you do that, it&#8217;s clear that you&#8217;re interested in drive-by sniping, and your comments will be treated as such.</p>
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		<title>By: hahah</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2009/02/13/paul-krugman-a-failure-to-rise-to-the-challenge/#comment-63309</link>
		<dc:creator>hahah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 08:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[but you know, looking back it makes sense that you did that.  i&#039;ve seen past incidences where you couldnt stand to let people get the better of you.  it&#039;s really pretty funny now realizing that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but you know, looking back it makes sense that you did that.  i&#8217;ve seen past incidences where you couldnt stand to let people get the better of you.  it&#8217;s really pretty funny now realizing that.</p>
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		<title>By: hahah</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2009/02/13/paul-krugman-a-failure-to-rise-to-the-challenge/#comment-63308</link>
		<dc:creator>hahah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 08:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[LOL i just tuned back in and saw that tarran removed my rebuttal.  way to go hero.  somebody slices through your ego and you remove the comment, only to leave your slurring on the board. that&#039;s awesome, bro. HAHAHAHA]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL i just tuned back in and saw that tarran removed my rebuttal.  way to go hero.  somebody slices through your ego and you remove the comment, only to leave your slurring on the board. that&#8217;s awesome, bro. HAHAHAHA</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Warbiany</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2009/02/13/paul-krugman-a-failure-to-rise-to-the-challenge/#comment-63306</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Warbiany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 01:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[oilnwater,

There&#039;s nothing for us to set right.  If Ron Paul could campaign his way out of a paper bag, he might have had a shot.  But frankly, the stage he was applying for was too big for him.  In fact, he honestly seemed surprised that people actualy agreed with his policies -- I don&#039;t think he knew how to handle the response.

So instead, we got the slick-talking guy with a good story but no experience, and far worse politics.  If you lay the cause for that on our feet, I think you&#039;re dramatically overstating our significance.  Either way, nothing precludes us from arguing against the guy now that he&#039;s elected, which is what we were expecting to do since he was nominated.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oilnwater,</p>
<p>There&#8217;s nothing for us to set right.  If Ron Paul could campaign his way out of a paper bag, he might have had a shot.  But frankly, the stage he was applying for was too big for him.  In fact, he honestly seemed surprised that people actualy agreed with his policies &#8212; I don&#8217;t think he knew how to handle the response.</p>
<p>So instead, we got the slick-talking guy with a good story but no experience, and far worse politics.  If you lay the cause for that on our feet, I think you&#8217;re dramatically overstating our significance.  Either way, nothing precludes us from arguing against the guy now that he&#8217;s elected, which is what we were expecting to do since he was nominated.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2009/02/13/paul-krugman-a-failure-to-rise-to-the-challenge/#comment-63303</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 17:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When are the adults going to start running this country again?   Adults who can say &quot;no&quot; to the voters and articulate why. Where are the adults that, like the fathers of our constitution, understand that government is a necessary evil that needs to be restrained to minimal activity or it becomes a self feeding entity.   Where are the statesmen that are concerned about the national ideals that started this country and made it great?  Why do, We The People, continue to elect politicians that are more concerned about rewarding campaign contributors, and business associates, and buying votes, and bringing pork home to there states and constituents than making good policy?  When did, We The People, give up on our abilities as individuals?   When and why have we accepted government assurances of a risk free life at a cost to freedom?   Am I just an over confident retard that thinks he can overcome adversity on his own? The question is simple...do you want freedom or free-from, do you want a free America or $free$ Amarika?  Personally, I accept the risks that come with a free society.   I accept that there will be good times and bad.   I believe in crisis we will help each other with out big brother.   

Look at all the instances where government gets involve...it creates an un-even playing field and rewards failure.  In addition, it is a slap in the face to those who have worked hard and made better decisions.  I am seriously considering not making my mortgage payment and maxing my credit cards so I will qualify for some bailout programs...that is the result of hanging a carrot on a horrible policy.   

I do not fear having to ask my family if I can move in with them, I do not fear taking a lower paying job. I do fear government making life risk free....there is always a cost to it.

Steve]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When are the adults going to start running this country again?   Adults who can say &#8220;no&#8221; to the voters and articulate why. Where are the adults that, like the fathers of our constitution, understand that government is a necessary evil that needs to be restrained to minimal activity or it becomes a self feeding entity.   Where are the statesmen that are concerned about the national ideals that started this country and made it great?  Why do, We The People, continue to elect politicians that are more concerned about rewarding campaign contributors, and business associates, and buying votes, and bringing pork home to there states and constituents than making good policy?  When did, We The People, give up on our abilities as individuals?   When and why have we accepted government assurances of a risk free life at a cost to freedom?   Am I just an over confident retard that thinks he can overcome adversity on his own? The question is simple&#8230;do you want freedom or free-from, do you want a free America or $free$ Amarika?  Personally, I accept the risks that come with a free society.   I accept that there will be good times and bad.   I believe in crisis we will help each other with out big brother.   </p>
<p>Look at all the instances where government gets involve&#8230;it creates an un-even playing field and rewards failure.  In addition, it is a slap in the face to those who have worked hard and made better decisions.  I am seriously considering not making my mortgage payment and maxing my credit cards so I will qualify for some bailout programs&#8230;that is the result of hanging a carrot on a horrible policy.   </p>
<p>I do not fear having to ask my family if I can move in with them, I do not fear taking a lower paying job. I do fear government making life risk free&#8230;.there is always a cost to it.</p>
<p>Steve</p>
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		<title>By: Quincy</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2009/02/13/paul-krugman-a-failure-to-rise-to-the-challenge/#comment-63302</link>
		<dc:creator>Quincy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 09:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Back to the topic, I must say you&#039;ve got to give the Democrats some credit.  They might be dead wrong, but they&#039;re completely consistent about it.  

Republicans are the frustrating bunch.  They&#039;ve got principles when they&#039;re out of power, but they try to out-Dem the Democrats when they&#039;re in power.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back to the topic, I must say you&#8217;ve got to give the Democrats some credit.  They might be dead wrong, but they&#8217;re completely consistent about it.  </p>
<p>Republicans are the frustrating bunch.  They&#8217;ve got principles when they&#8217;re out of power, but they try to out-Dem the Democrats when they&#8217;re in power.</p>
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		<title>By: tarran</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2009/02/13/paul-krugman-a-failure-to-rise-to-the-challenge/#comment-63300</link>
		<dc:creator>tarran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 07:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[oilnwater,

You sir are a moron, a drooling simpleton.  Do you honestly think that we embraced Obama over Ron Paul?  If so, I pity you; it demonstrates that your intelligence is so low that you are only fit for politics or the welfare rolls.

Ron Paul was unacceptable because he tried to garner support by inciting racist fears amongst the people he sought to govern.  And no, it wasn&#039;t in 1996, but as recently as 2007 when he sent out those flyers with a MS-13 gang-member pictured prominently while babbling some bullshit about Social Security benefits.

The fact that Ron Paul surrounded himself with incompetent staffers and ran an ineffective campaign is not our fault.  The fact that he resorted to race-baiting is not our fault.  

I encourage you to quit your temper tantrum and pound sand. You rarely add anything to discussions other than peevish, incoherent rants.  You are wasting your time writing them, and our readers&#039; time reading them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oilnwater,</p>
<p>You sir are a moron, a drooling simpleton.  Do you honestly think that we embraced Obama over Ron Paul?  If so, I pity you; it demonstrates that your intelligence is so low that you are only fit for politics or the welfare rolls.</p>
<p>Ron Paul was unacceptable because he tried to garner support by inciting racist fears amongst the people he sought to govern.  And no, it wasn&#8217;t in 1996, but as recently as 2007 when he sent out those flyers with a MS-13 gang-member pictured prominently while babbling some bullshit about Social Security benefits.</p>
<p>The fact that Ron Paul surrounded himself with incompetent staffers and ran an ineffective campaign is not our fault.  The fact that he resorted to race-baiting is not our fault.  </p>
<p>I encourage you to quit your temper tantrum and pound sand. You rarely add anything to discussions other than peevish, incoherent rants.  You are wasting your time writing them, and our readers&#8217; time reading them.</p>
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		<title>By: fuckyoupeople</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2009/02/13/paul-krugman-a-failure-to-rise-to-the-challenge/#comment-63299</link>
		<dc:creator>fuckyoupeople</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 07:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Then set it to right, you traded a newsletter to bitching about Fascist outcome of America.  All of this is parlour talk.  You can agonize for eternity in the face of reality and in the end you are prostrate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then set it to right, you traded a newsletter to bitching about Fascist outcome of America.  All of this is parlour talk.  You can agonize for eternity in the face of reality and in the end you are prostrate.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Warbiany</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2009/02/13/paul-krugman-a-failure-to-rise-to-the-challenge/#comment-63298</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Warbiany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 07:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[fuckyoupeople (aka oilnwater),

Please try to keep a constant pseudonym if you&#039;re going to come around attacking us.  I know you&#039;re still hung up on Ron Paul, but everyone else has moved on.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fuckyoupeople (aka oilnwater),</p>
<p>Please try to keep a constant pseudonym if you&#8217;re going to come around attacking us.  I know you&#8217;re still hung up on Ron Paul, but everyone else has moved on.</p>
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		<title>By: Akston</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2009/02/13/paul-krugman-a-failure-to-rise-to-the-challenge/#comment-63297</link>
		<dc:creator>Akston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 06:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Isn&#039;t it interesting that the Patriot Act and the current &lt;strike&gt;stimulus package&lt;/strike&gt; spending bill are both &quot;emergencies&quot; which require lightning quick passage and no examination?  It seems like that&#039;s become the standard dance in Washington.

And why not?  It&#039;s a proven tactic. &quot;Don&#039;t look at this too closely!  It&#039;s an emergency!  Just sign here!  Hurry!!&quot;

Ironically, these &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pig_in_a_poke&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;pigs in a poke&lt;/a&gt; actually &lt;i&gt;do&lt;/i&gt; contain the advertised pork.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t it interesting that the Patriot Act and the current <strike>stimulus package</strike> spending bill are both &#8220;emergencies&#8221; which require lightning quick passage and no examination?  It seems like that&#8217;s become the standard dance in Washington.</p>
<p>And why not?  It&#8217;s a proven tactic. &#8220;Don&#8217;t look at this too closely!  It&#8217;s an emergency!  Just sign here!  Hurry!!&#8221;</p>
<p>Ironically, these <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pig_in_a_poke" rel="nofollow">pigs in a poke</a> actually <i>do</i> contain the advertised pork.</p>
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		<title>By: fuckyoupeople</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2009/02/13/paul-krugman-a-failure-to-rise-to-the-challenge/#comment-63296</link>
		<dc:creator>fuckyoupeople</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 06:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[what the shit do you lame-ass fucks care.  all you&#039;re really waiting for is a racist newsletter.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what the shit do you lame-ass fucks care.  all you&#8217;re really waiting for is a racist newsletter.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Warbiany</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2009/02/13/paul-krugman-a-failure-to-rise-to-the-challenge/#comment-63295</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Warbiany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 05:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Miko,

Both the stimulus and PATRIOT ACT are horrible...

But I ask you, what are the chances of total world annihilation when we tell the Chinese we&#039;re not paying them back (at least not in dollars worth anything)?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miko,</p>
<p>Both the stimulus and PATRIOT ACT are horrible&#8230;</p>
<p>But I ask you, what are the chances of total world annihilation when we tell the Chinese we&#8217;re not paying them back (at least not in dollars worth anything)?</p>
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		<title>By: Miko</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2009/02/13/paul-krugman-a-failure-to-rise-to-the-challenge/#comment-63292</link>
		<dc:creator>Miko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 04:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you give me a choice between the &quot;stimulus&quot; and the Patriot Act, Iraq war, etc., I&#039;m going to pick the former.  The worst the Democrats could do is destroy the dollar and put our economy in a mess from which it will take hundreds of years to recover (after which they&#039;ll deflect blame by hypothesizing about how much worse things would have been if they hadn&#039;t acted).  The Republicans, on the other hand, will quite possibly bring us total world annihilation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you give me a choice between the &#8220;stimulus&#8221; and the Patriot Act, Iraq war, etc., I&#8217;m going to pick the former.  The worst the Democrats could do is destroy the dollar and put our economy in a mess from which it will take hundreds of years to recover (after which they&#8217;ll deflect blame by hypothesizing about how much worse things would have been if they hadn&#8217;t acted).  The Republicans, on the other hand, will quite possibly bring us total world annihilation.</p>
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