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		<title>By: jimmy</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2009/02/17/how-bad-is-it-going-to-get/#comment-63481</link>
		<dc:creator>jimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 17:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi, can you give me your advice on should we build our dream house now here in Florida Flagler County,the builder oringinally wanted $289,000 to build it now about $240,000.I&#039;m looking to spend about $200,000 is that a posobility with the economy heading down? P.S. we have the money from selling our home 3 years ago at a nice prifit,just sitting in the bank.Thank you, Jim..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, can you give me your advice on should we build our dream house now here in Florida Flagler County,the builder oringinally wanted $289,000 to build it now about $240,000.I&#8217;m looking to spend about $200,000 is that a posobility with the economy heading down? P.S. we have the money from selling our home 3 years ago at a nice prifit,just sitting in the bank.Thank you, Jim..</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 19:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How bad can it get? ... treasuries are cahsed in but they cannot be redeemed, so US (govmnt) goes bankrupt ... World economy colapses ... 

tfr: &quot;WE still have 1/4 of the world&#039;s food production here in the US.&quot;

... Chinese start starving, conscript everybody into the army ... war breaks out as populations try to take control of food producing areas ... 

I say get the ammo ready.  We should, as a country, really look into relocating our armed forces closer to home.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How bad can it get? &#8230; treasuries are cahsed in but they cannot be redeemed, so US (govmnt) goes bankrupt &#8230; World economy colapses &#8230; </p>
<p>tfr: &#8220;WE still have 1/4 of the world&#8217;s food production here in the US.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230; Chinese start starving, conscript everybody into the army &#8230; war breaks out as populations try to take control of food producing areas &#8230; </p>
<p>I say get the ammo ready.  We should, as a country, really look into relocating our armed forces closer to home.</p>
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		<title>By: tfr</title>
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		<dc:creator>tfr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 16:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ok, so China tries to cash in its treasuries, the dollar collapses, the world goes into depression.

Then what? Every time someone has said &quot;Then we&#039;ll starve&quot;, I have come back with, &quot;But WE still have 1/4 of the world&#039;s food production here in the US. It won&#039;t magically transfer to China.&quot; Where am I wrong here?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, so China tries to cash in its treasuries, the dollar collapses, the world goes into depression.</p>
<p>Then what? Every time someone has said &#8220;Then we&#8217;ll starve&#8221;, I have come back with, &#8220;But WE still have 1/4 of the world&#8217;s food production here in the US. It won&#8217;t magically transfer to China.&#8221; Where am I wrong here?</p>
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		<title>By: Jono</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jono</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 04:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alan Greenspan suggested we could never locate a bubble, even if we looked at it.

Yet common sense dictates its actually not all that hard to see where each bubble forms.

A bubble is unsustainable levels of euphoria resulting in high asset prices.

The tech crash seemed reasonable, since so many tech stocks without any earnings were valued highly only on future earnings guess-timates.

The property collapse, and the general credit market collapse seems reasonable after so much credit expansion and such high property prices.

And clearly, the level of US government debt should be the next domino to fall. China isn&#039;t the only holder of US debt, you&#039;ve also got Russia and the Middle East, both of whom face upcoming budget problems due to falling oil prices.

There may be a game of chicken to see who flinches first, but once one player starts dumping US treasuries, the avalanche will begin.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan Greenspan suggested we could never locate a bubble, even if we looked at it.</p>
<p>Yet common sense dictates its actually not all that hard to see where each bubble forms.</p>
<p>A bubble is unsustainable levels of euphoria resulting in high asset prices.</p>
<p>The tech crash seemed reasonable, since so many tech stocks without any earnings were valued highly only on future earnings guess-timates.</p>
<p>The property collapse, and the general credit market collapse seems reasonable after so much credit expansion and such high property prices.</p>
<p>And clearly, the level of US government debt should be the next domino to fall. China isn&#8217;t the only holder of US debt, you&#8217;ve also got Russia and the Middle East, both of whom face upcoming budget problems due to falling oil prices.</p>
<p>There may be a game of chicken to see who flinches first, but once one player starts dumping US treasuries, the avalanche will begin.</p>
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		<title>By: Jono</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jono</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 04:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Oh and that’s not even taking into account the coming “retirement bomb” for Social Security and Medicare… that one makes this one look like a minor hiccup.&lt;/i&gt;

Glad you brought that up. $54 trillion in unfunded future liabilities. Thats gotta destroy the dollar&#039;s status as the world&#039;s reserve currency.

Reach for your gold.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Oh and that’s not even taking into account the coming “retirement bomb” for Social Security and Medicare… that one makes this one look like a minor hiccup.</i></p>
<p>Glad you brought that up. $54 trillion in unfunded future liabilities. Thats gotta destroy the dollar&#8217;s status as the world&#8217;s reserve currency.</p>
<p>Reach for your gold.</p>
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		<title>By: persnickety curmudgeon</title>
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		<dc:creator>persnickety curmudgeon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 00:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Miko...not exactly true...Republicans Borrow and Spend - Democrats Tax and Borrow and Spend...is not burning a candle at 2 ends rather than 3 does indeed them  more conservative - but what good is that eh?

But until we stop the government borrowing period we will never get this thing under control. This not only includes debt financing but unfunded mandates to the states and counties, and loan guarantess as well. It works so well til one day it doesn&#039;t and it seems that day is here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miko&#8230;not exactly true&#8230;Republicans Borrow and Spend &#8211; Democrats Tax and Borrow and Spend&#8230;is not burning a candle at 2 ends rather than 3 does indeed them  more conservative &#8211; but what good is that eh?</p>
<p>But until we stop the government borrowing period we will never get this thing under control. This not only includes debt financing but unfunded mandates to the states and counties, and loan guarantess as well. It works so well til one day it doesn&#8217;t and it seems that day is here.</p>
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		<title>By: Miko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 00:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let&#039;s not (exclusively) blame the Democrats.  The Republicans can&#039;t because they don&#039;t have the power, but their plan is to &quot;keep inflating, and accumulating debt&quot; as well; they just want to direct the pork in a slightly different direction.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s not (exclusively) blame the Democrats.  The Republicans can&#8217;t because they don&#8217;t have the power, but their plan is to &#8220;keep inflating, and accumulating debt&#8221; as well; they just want to direct the pork in a slightly different direction.</p>
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		<title>By: persnickety curmudgeon</title>
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		<dc:creator>persnickety curmudgeon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 20:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great Analysis!

How bad ? I dunno but...

Lets not forget that the government is already quite socialist - subsidizing one way or another - Car Companies (which lose money), Airlines (which have never made money) and hence Airplane makers, and Mass Transit (which loses lots and lots of money), and Banks(but only big ones that lose money), Postal Delivery(no comment), Amtrak, NEA, NPR, Milk prices, Corn prices etc. I mean what isnt already subsidized? 

Now we are even bailing out moronic Governors like Jennifer Granholm, The Terminator and David Patterson who run their states into the ground and expect others to pay for it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Analysis!</p>
<p>How bad ? I dunno but&#8230;</p>
<p>Lets not forget that the government is already quite socialist &#8211; subsidizing one way or another &#8211; Car Companies (which lose money), Airlines (which have never made money) and hence Airplane makers, and Mass Transit (which loses lots and lots of money), and Banks(but only big ones that lose money), Postal Delivery(no comment), Amtrak, NEA, NPR, Milk prices, Corn prices etc. I mean what isnt already subsidized? </p>
<p>Now we are even bailing out moronic Governors like Jennifer Granholm, The Terminator and David Patterson who run their states into the ground and expect others to pay for it.</p>
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