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	<title>Comments on: Posse Comitatus Alert: Military Deployed in Alabama to Aid with Murder Spree Law Enforcement Activities</title>
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		<title>By: Merf</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2009/03/18/posse-comitatus-alert-military-deployed-in-alabama-to-aid-with-murder-spree/#comment-64315</link>
		<dc:creator>Merf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lyn, I agree with you.  As I said on another thread, you are military or you are police -- one or the other, not both.  The military&#039;s job is to kill people and break things.  I, personally, had a job that involved keeping equipment running so the ship could get into position to launch planes . . . . so the pilots could kill people and break things.

This is not a bad thing, mind you.  There are some people in the world that understand that language and no other, and will leave us alone as long as they think we will hurt them more than they can hurt us.

But while military is good for things like cleaning streets after a hurricane, we&#039;re not all that good for law enforcement -- not even MPs.

After all, MPs expect a certain level of obedience that civilians haven&#039;t been taught to give them -- and should be expect to give them, either, whereas military personnel know, when they talk, we shut up and listen, and then do what they say.  It is part of what we agree to when we join -- and civilians haven&#039;t joined.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lyn, I agree with you.  As I said on another thread, you are military or you are police &#8212; one or the other, not both.  The military&#8217;s job is to kill people and break things.  I, personally, had a job that involved keeping equipment running so the ship could get into position to launch planes . . . . so the pilots could kill people and break things.</p>
<p>This is not a bad thing, mind you.  There are some people in the world that understand that language and no other, and will leave us alone as long as they think we will hurt them more than they can hurt us.</p>
<p>But while military is good for things like cleaning streets after a hurricane, we&#8217;re not all that good for law enforcement &#8212; not even MPs.</p>
<p>After all, MPs expect a certain level of obedience that civilians haven&#8217;t been taught to give them &#8212; and should be expect to give them, either, whereas military personnel know, when they talk, we shut up and listen, and then do what they say.  It is part of what we agree to when we join &#8212; and civilians haven&#8217;t joined.</p>
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		<title>By: Lyn</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2009/03/18/posse-comitatus-alert-military-deployed-in-alabama-to-aid-with-murder-spree/#comment-64311</link>
		<dc:creator>Lyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 13:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a big deal I wish people we more worried and were very mad.  Soldiers don&#039;t make good police.  They end up being used to intimidate and harass people that&#039;s it.

That town&#039;s police chief needs to set up a reserve police officer or deputy program or auxiliary program.  It was wrong for him to call the Army for help in this situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a big deal I wish people we more worried and were very mad.  Soldiers don&#8217;t make good police.  They end up being used to intimidate and harass people that&#8217;s it.</p>
<p>That town&#8217;s police chief needs to set up a reserve police officer or deputy program or auxiliary program.  It was wrong for him to call the Army for help in this situation.</p>
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		<title>By: The Liberty Papers &#187;Blog Archive &#187; Preliminary Government Answers About MPs in Alabama Not Passing Sniff Test</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2009/03/18/posse-comitatus-alert-military-deployed-in-alabama-to-aid-with-murder-spree/#comment-64308</link>
		<dc:creator>The Liberty Papers &#187;Blog Archive &#187; Preliminary Government Answers About MPs in Alabama Not Passing Sniff Test</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 08:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Merf: It would have had to. I cannot imagine that an O-2 or O-3 would have done this without orders. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Merf: It would have had to. I cannot imagine that an O-2 or O-3 would have done this without orders. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Merf</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2009/03/18/posse-comitatus-alert-military-deployed-in-alabama-to-aid-with-murder-spree/#comment-64301</link>
		<dc:creator>Merf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would have had to.  I cannot imagine that an O-2 or O-3 would have done this without orders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would have had to.  I cannot imagine that an O-2 or O-3 would have done this without orders.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Gordon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to reports, there were 22 enlistees and one officer dispatched.  I assume the officer was probably a 1LT or CPT.  The order probably came from much higher up the local chain of command.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to reports, there were 22 enlistees and one officer dispatched.  I assume the officer was probably a 1LT or CPT.  The order probably came from much higher up the local chain of command.</p>
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		<title>By: Merf</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2009/03/18/posse-comitatus-alert-military-deployed-in-alabama-to-aid-with-murder-spree/#comment-64299</link>
		<dc:creator>Merf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephen, the enlisted won&#039;t know much, anyways.  They will have gotten their orders from a senior enlisted who got them from a junior officer, and there may be several other people between that junior officer and the one who actually gave the orders . . . . Senior enlisted will know more, but maybe not much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen, the enlisted won&#8217;t know much, anyways.  They will have gotten their orders from a senior enlisted who got them from a junior officer, and there may be several other people between that junior officer and the one who actually gave the orders . . . . Senior enlisted will know more, but maybe not much.</p>
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		<title>By: Merf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Merf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:02:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point, Peter, I always knew who it was that was tell me what to do.  I guess a low-level officer could have lied and told us that the orders came from the Captain (O-6 Navy, not O-3 Army), but I don&#039;t remember any officer being that stupid (not even either of the two I considered completely brainless.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point, Peter, I always knew who it was that was tell me what to do.  I guess a low-level officer could have lied and told us that the orders came from the Captain (O-6 Navy, not O-3 Army), but I don&#8217;t remember any officer being that stupid (not even either of the two I considered completely brainless.)</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Gordon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter,

I&#039;m sure the enlisted soldiers involved have been ordered not to answer any questions from the media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure the enlisted soldiers involved have been ordered not to answer any questions from the media.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2009/03/18/posse-comitatus-alert-military-deployed-in-alabama-to-aid-with-murder-spree/#comment-64293</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How hard is it to ask the MPs involved &quot;Who ordered you to go here?&quot; And then follow the chain of orders up to whoever originated them?  Shouldn&#039;t the army be keeping records of who gives orders to whom?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How hard is it to ask the MPs involved &#8220;Who ordered you to go here?&#8221; And then follow the chain of orders up to whoever originated them?  Shouldn&#8217;t the army be keeping records of who gives orders to whom?</p>
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